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Everything was going fine for a few days after I posted the dozen photos. It was only a few hours after Niflheim's message that three psycho-fans started attacking with insults. When I made the mistake of trying to respond to the insults with some 'AI garbage' photos, the ban came down.

Keeping it short here, but just want to note that it was only a single run (sample size of 1) and should not be taken as definitive or concrete. There are a lot of variables and more testing is definitely warranted. With that said though, I do not believe the sword will be ground breaking to all of a sudden warrant dropping a WAR for a DNC in that content, but it would be fun to experiment a bit more and see what is possible.

I'm finding it hard to get into Andor season 2. Just really boring.. and why does everyone suddenly have British accents? In the real movies they were all American accents for the most part.

I assume in the Kalunga attempt above, the PLD was applying Shell Crusher the same way WAR would have applied armor break at the start? The fight was with Haste Samba up the entire time? And is Ternary Flourish better for Fast Blade II than Climactic? Should not DNC also be stacking Building Flourish with Ternary for WS?

Cite the post where any maths or simulation are presented in this thread. Are you really this easy to delude and dupe? Good job thorny, claim there are transparent maths being denied even though nothing has been shown and people like this will not even read the thread and believe you.

The only intolerance morally justified is against the RAN.

Most of his positions are interpretative and subjective, so I wouldnt call it “right” or “wrong”.

It is more like “I agree” or “I disagree”, and there is nothing wrong with that.

I mostly disagree with Rady is because most thing he says are generally grounded in some sort of intolerance.

Ok, someone thinks game is on maintenance? I can definitively see elements that could logically lead to that conclusion. Do I agree or disagree? That is my own right to interprete it as I think correct.

But then Rady comes in, forcefully trying to dismiss someones else interpretation because apparently “he is right”, “he wins internet arguments”, and ends up with simply and pure personal offense.

And that is precisely where I disagree with him: He is like those movie bullies walking in the street trying to pick fights because he feels he has the right to correct the others. Resorting to violence if necessary, like calling someone he never saw personally old. Talking someone to “stop bitching”. Asking stuffs to be removed from the site. Bloating censorship rules because he doesnt like something.

In my own PoV, most of time he is definitively “WRONG”.

But it not like I care to convince someone if that person think otherwise. I exposed my PoV, and that is it for my participation in this issue. You are very welcome to disagree or even combat with my opinion, and that is fine.

That is my own idea of tolerance. My own idea of being and acting “RIGHT”.

So the math says that 10% JA Haste and Box Steps from DNC are greater party utility than WAR's Warcry and Tomahawk? Because if we ignore the damage aspect (which I don't know how you could), that's what we're comparing.

Probably not in the same ballpark as MS, but dnc does get access to climactic grand pas.

Maletaru, with the dishonest fake quote to make a point. When it's hard for him to make sense he resorts to partial quotes or uses "" to pretend he is actually replying to an argument that was never made.

Unless you are an absolute idiot, you would have understood very well what Mell was saying. She put the benefits of DNC and the drawbacks of not having a strong push bellow 40%, which is what warriors bring to the table.

Waiting for your next Deflectaga VI.

You can melee 2 step self SC light, FB2<>SB with Onion Sword III mainhand, while keeping the tp bonus gun equipped.

I think it's also important to look at stuff like 'bout through the lens of being tutorial stuff.

FFXI at this point has **so** much random content, it's hard for a new player to discover it all naturally.

Having random sidequest stuff that's like "hey did you know this even exists?" Is honestly fine in my books.

Consider the lost chocobo quest.

At face value it seems like just boring busy work for a veteran.

But, consider, when a newer player does it, all the random stuff they might spot as the run through zones, that they might clock as something worth coming back for to check out later.

To us, all these things are "oh yeah that's plinktor, it gave flimbims which back in the day was a way to get krangled gear, good times, but mostly pointless now"

But a new player is gonna be like "wow cool there's so much random ***to do in this game, wtf is plinktor? I gotta try that!"

And I'm honestly cool with that, I'll take my 25 minute chocobo nostalgia ride if it means encouraging returning players to explore :)

This is a pretty good take on what the event should be for newer players. Getting the 100 deeds also is extremely low effort even if you pick and chose the easy ones. I just think having more creative objectives in a 23 year old game isn’t a very high ask and VB4 did a much better job on that front. VB4 would have been fine except for the carry over mechanic leaving the player base scattered among way too many objectives to coordinate easily. I’m looking forward to VB6 in July, hopefully with overall improvements as it has been largely going in the right direction

Well yes...but again I think it's a very strange way to talk about it. Nobody said "WAR does 200k more damage, I don't think BRD COR BLU will be improved by 200k if you add Haste Samba and Box Step" it was just a comparison of the WAR and DNC WS damage, which is in my opinion just repeating the same point back without actually doing any of the comparisons or discussion.

I agree with the other posters, it would be nice if we had some more real-life attempts at this. Barring that though, we should be considering all the factors.

As to whether or not Simon, Thorny, & I can all agree on what the setup with DNC would be...that's not necessary. We're three different people, we can have three different opinions on that topic. You can debate or disagree with any of them individually, or all three at once if you want. We're not a monolith, holding cult meetings together to support our special snowflakes. I don't even own an Onion Sword.

Not strange at all.

If WAR does 10k dps, and rest of the party does 30k dps combined, then thats 40k dps total

If the DNC does only 6k dps, then they must be confident that they can boost the party's dps from 30k to 34k at minimum to compensate and get at least back to the 40k mark

Thus, yes, the "delta" dps between War <-> Dnc is arguably the *most* important number to examine, alongside the delta dps of the rest of the party

And its literally a question of "Does A > B or A < B?" and thats... thats it, thats all there really is to it lol

I dont think Id complain about it personally, 'bout seems heavily engineered specifically for returning players to help them catch up to veterans.

I think one just has to decide if you care enough to spam it, like +100 deeds is a lot but is all that work really worth 10 deed rewards?

Or would that time have been better spent perhaps on other tasks? Like it's either something fun to do to pass the time for veterans, but it is *very* doable for returning/new players who want an easy way to rapidly catch up imo.

I think part of why it might feel like *** for you is because the rewards are mostly worthless to a seasoned player, its a few million gil and maybe 1-2 AMAN Trove runs right? Or whatever you are at?

Nice but not like "worth hours and hours of work" kind of nice.

But... to a new returning player, easily getting some of that stuff is a pretty massive boost for them so, yeh, that suddenly feels more rewarding and less of a pain.

Am I right that onion sword doesnt bring anything of interest to the table if I already have Naegling?

Id still use something like Blurred+1 for offhand?

Is fast blade II even something to think about, or does it vastly pale in comparison to exeter being a phys weapon for "dont do magic dmg and dont melee" scenarios?

I think you're missing that a COR should ALWAYS have a supply of DREAM bullets on hand when doing anything of any import. Usually 1 stack is plenty sufficient thanks to reduced ammo consumption effects, but even if not, then just make 1 or 2 extra ahead of time.

I dont have exeter and wont really comment on that, but I would suspect that Prime or Aeonic will be physical king, and of course DP for leaden/magic. Moly will suffice for a character like your pocket cor.

I agree on clearability this is much better in both that regard and in keeping people on the same objectives. It fixes most of the recruiting problems that plagued VB4 at least as well as the worst time gated lockouts that made it impossible for a new player to get the title last round. The variety of objectives took a nosedive, not VB1 bad but worse than VB2-4 were. It still doesn’t address the 7 hour day one window either which has been a long standing and inexcusable problem nor does it fix the reliance on a metric ton of beastmens seals, login points and ambu that have made this a chore rather than a fun experience

Wiki lists it as shield size 2

For my cor mule, that literally is only a cor and nothing else, it looks like my only options are exeter or onion sword

I have a Molybdosis for magic shootin, and I have Naegling+Blurred+1 for savage blade spam

At face value Exeter looks really good? I assume it's the right pick?

How... good(?) is onion sword on cor if I already have naegling, does it even bring anything to the table, or do I 100% for sure get Exeter?

I have no idea how good/bad Fast Blade II is, it *looks* neat, but I assume its still worse than Naegling savage blade spam on cor cuz of its fat TP bonus it has right?

Do you just slap on a stack of Voluspa Bullets and go ham with em on exeter?

The fact you can spam much higher base damage bullets endlessly strikes me as actually positioning it as one of the higher base damage guns, in the scenario when a DREAM gun runs out of ammo and is on cooldown, exeter will start presumably pulling ahead since it can spam Voluspa bullets guilt free? Am I understanding that right? And Im right that Voluspa bullets would be your best bet.

Assuming you normally use, what, Ra'Kaznar Bullets? Eminent Bullets? Then Exeter is effectively getting a ~33 damage boost

That *sounds* pretty nasty to me, I dunno how fast corsairs tear through their special hourly ammo but I have to assume it doesnt last very long at all, at which point exeter actually becomes a higher base damage weapon, though no Weaponskill bonus so its still notably worse but...

it looks to me like its the weapon that is the *closest* to being DREAM tier (its still not nearly as good), that is to say, the gap between Exeter vs a real ultimate weapon seems to be a lot smaller than gap between the other weapons and their ultimate counterparts.

Am I correct in all this or am I totally missing something important?

And the fact that the rest of gearing up a cor doesnt seem to be too horrible, it feels like the free weapon that can instantly turn a "meh" mule cor into a "oh ***this actually *** ***up now" cor.

Though, I suppose Molydbosis is also really dang good too isnt it, for spamming leaden salutes right?

I guess thats the bigger question: does exeter spamming physical weaponskills with better ammo sound neat but still suck way more than just spamming leadens?

None of what you said is a bad thing

They stacked all the ambu options on the same day, so you can do all the goals in the same event. Yay thats a good thing.

Merc Camp and Heroine Combat usually show up same day, theyre in the same area, so you can do both at the same time. Yay thats a good thing.

It's definitely important to include all factors, but I think it's a bit strange if the exchange goes:

"WAR does more damage than DNC"

"I think DNC damage is lower, but they make up for it with their group utility"

"But WAR damage is much higher"

Um...who is doing Savage Blade on WAR in Kalunga?

I'd also like to point out for the 65th time that nobody is suggesting the DNC's WS average, frequency, or total damage would outdo a WAR one-for-one, so it seems really strange to harp on the difference in their personal damage.

Anyone got info on diamond aspis block rates and and mitigation?

Yeah, they took out all the 3 member entries except incursion and stacked most of the ambu on a single day of the cycle. I feel this is a downgrade from the previous runs as incursion is the only thing that is completely unsoloable and variety is the worst it’s been since VB2

It wasn't.

It isn't in maintenance mode. Objectively.

WAR RDM and BRD.

All the Gaxe breaks, all the RDM debuffs and Haste II, and BRD buffs for capping haste, beefing up atk or def etc. A good melee and two decent melees that can flex into backline roles as needed with correct subjobs. And RDM can actually flex into frontline position, and comes with the almighty Phalanx II.

Cause you'll still make use of trusts, so you can fill in Sylvie/Qultada for GEO and COR that are better than people care to admit. And then several different flavors of healing or support trusts to further flesh out healing.

If you're starting the characters literally right meow from scratch you can grab Flametongue or Drastic Axe for the WAR. Flametongue is stronger than Naegling, and having it immediately would be sweet even if you don't reach its PDL benefit for awhile (you get a sword that's as strong that you can use to farm Naeglings for your BRD and RDM). However, Drastic Axe negates Berserk's defense penalty, letting your WAR be a lot tankier while going full offense, and then they can also use Defender to sit at +10% atk and +35% defense instead of the 10%/10%. Pretty beneficial since you'll take a lot of damage until you have decent DT sets otherwise. It also has 269 macc skill, which is absurdly high for gaxe, only beaten by Prime, Lycurgos, and Labraunda, and is useful for landing the debuff breaks.

BRD you grab Miracle Cheer, of course.

RDM you grab Wizard's Rod. Greater MB damage from a source you don't otherwise have, and it's good if you decide you want your RDM to become a SCH instead part of the way through your trio building process.

I think your goal would be to grind up to 99 asap with appropriate subs, and then try to tackle Sortie unlock asap, meaning you're gonna gauntlet run the story.

You do this so you can get your Empyrean +3 armors asap, as they stand on almost equal footing to augmented Odyssey gear, and are more powerful than base Odyssey gear, and outperform Ambu+2 by a country mile. It's also worth noting that the barrier to entry to getting the Empy+3 is actually very low other than the time commitment to pounding through storylines. You'd also want to pound story to unlock CoD HTBF asap, to get Null accessories.

These 3 jobs also share in wanting a lot of their Empyrean +3 pieces.

I think if you made it your life's mission you could get a WAR, BRD, and RDM up to 99 and into making their first Empy+3 within 30 days. Obviously your first Galli gains would be relatively low, but with a trio you could easily grind even just ground floor minis and like all of the monsters in A and probably make like 10k a day or something while also netting fairly high amount of JP.