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By Tarage on 2025-06-10 02:10:33
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Killing an enemy at 130 and one at 119 give the same amount of data.
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my cope is that this +4 is just to bring this stuff back up to "current" ilevel, then ACTUALLY "upgrade" them with the next content level update to limbus Yeah I can sort of see +5 coming. With the same approach of +4 (boosts to the same types of stats, ignoring all others which were ignored on the +4).
That would make AF/Relic+5 have something like... WSD+14/15?
Which would open the possibility for them to release, in the far future, Empyrean+4/5 upgrades with the same amount of WSD boosts.
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »I bet one Relic and one AF per week, right?
Gonna take a long time...
If I had to guess, 10k per piece. This gives you 1 set per week (if you focus only on a single job). Takes ~half a year to do all jobs. Well... that would be acceptable. Perhaps too good lol?
On the other hand what I said before (1 relic piece and 1 af piece per week) would be a bit depressing...
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Well guess I’m go to bed with blue balls.
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Also the EP value is tied to mob level and your ML. Limbus mobs will have to be like 165+++ to be viable EP fodder with a ML50 in the group. Not necessarily.
There is a special part of the formula that's a "multiplier" to the mob's base EP rate.
For instance Apex mobs have this value set at 5. Locus mobs have it at 7 and "high apex" mobs have it at 8.
So they could easily increase the EP/kill you get from mobs by raising that value, without raising the mob's level.
With that said, I seriously doubt it's gonna happen. At best the EP/kill from mobs in Limbus will be "decent".
If it were good, why would you even want to go to all the others Apex/Locus camps when you can get much better EP/hr in Limbus?
Would make no sense, everybody would crowd Limbus.
So yeah, at BEST it will be decent, not good.
It's disappointing I guess but it does make sense.
EP as a whole would need a lot of adjustments in general, we can't expect a new content to be the "fix" for that.
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Was it ever mentioned if they're stopping at +4 or if +5 is coming next time they update this?
not sure if mentioned, but lol
and also the fact this is only CL130 and they said they do plan to update/release NMs later... unless they are just gonna add random unique garbage, i can see them lifting the cap and making +5.
my cope is that this +4 is just to bring this stuff back up to "current" ilevel, then ACTUALLY "upgrade" them with the next content level update to limbus
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I don't know what any of that means.
SE explained it in their post. You need to fill the bar on every floor to get the key to open the chest at the end.
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I bet one Relic and one AF per week, right?
Gonna take a long time...
If I had to guess, 10k per piece. This gives you 1 set per week (if you focus only on a single job). Takes ~half a year to do all jobs.
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By Tarage on 2025-06-10 01:47:25
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Killing 3 mobs at 130 allowed me to get 1/2 of the bar filled on North Tower F1. I don't know what any of that means.
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By Vikter on 2025-06-10 01:46:41
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we need icons! my eyes hurt after this update!
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What's left to see now is how are things going to be with the speed of upgrades.
I have a lot of AF/Relic pieces I want to upgrade and with the weekly caps I'm gonna have to set up ap priority list and decide what to upgrade first.
How many pieces are you gonna be able to upgrade per week?
I bet one Relic and one AF per week, right?
Gonna take a long time...
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My expectations were low, but SE finds ways to impress...
Limbus is going to be empty unless it's good for MLs, lol.
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By Tarage on 2025-06-10 01:42:31
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Max level is 130 btw. I'm not having a problem soloing it.
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Hopefully there is more to come
Well back to AFK
Until next time
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By Eiryl on 2025-06-10 01:40:23
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That's rough
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I lack the vocabulary to describe the level of discontent I feel right now. :(
I don't even feel the need to update my game client. I'm just going to bed.
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By Eiryl on 2025-06-10 01:28:28
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And they reset the xiview files again, ***
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NIN AF+4 mask finally has Accuracy on it.
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Anyone getting this error message on update?

FTFY.
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By . on 2025-06-10 01:26:43
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Necro Bump again, this just happened to me on June 9th update 2025
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After reviewing the new gear, the weekly cap on points doesn't sting so much.
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Asura.Bronzequadav said: »Like monk+3 head has the same crit rate, focus enhancement, and main stats as +4
Not that it's terribly relevant but, nope. MNK head got 5 DEX, 5 AGI, 3 MND. Also meva etc.
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PLD relic legs got +15 evasion and +40 magic evasion which is pretty nice.
Lots of stuff got little bits of like accuracy and evasion. Hoping maybe when they release NMs and go to +5 some of this stuff will get better cos man it's pretty underwhelming atm.
I guess if content level 130 limbus is supposed to be the gear stage pre-Ody/Sortie/Empyrean+2&3 then maybe the higher content level limbus will come with gear that actually rivals some of the Odyssey and Sortie gear?
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By Genoxd on 2025-06-10 01:10:51
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The relic gloves got +57 Pet M.ACC added to them with the skill + I believe that makes them the best pet m.acc piece for SMN. Not that it's very useful...but that's the only thing I see.
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By Eiryl on 2025-06-10 01:10:46
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It's still there it's just still 5
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Triple riceball potency noone will ever use, cmon SE wheres the wsd rice ball(or just riceball variety in general)
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"The following items will be added to the tradeable items that can be exchanged with the Ancestry Moogle in Port San d'Oria (J-10), Port Bastok (J-12), and Windurst Walls (C-13).
Maxixi Tiara +4 / Maxixi Casaque +4 / Maxixi Bangles +4 / Maxixi Tights +4 / Maxixi Toe Shoes +4"
Wait, wat?
I'm not getting this part, what do they mean and why just DNC AF+4 and not the others?
DNC AF is gender-specific, others are not.
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"The following items will be added to the tradeable items that can be exchanged with the Ancestry Moogle in Port San d'Oria (J-10), Port Bastok (J-12), and Windurst Walls (C-13).
Maxixi Tiara +4 / Maxixi Casaque +4 / Maxixi Bangles +4 / Maxixi Tights +4 / Maxixi Toe Shoes +4"
Wait, wat?
I'm not getting this part, what do they mean and why just DNC AF+4 and not the others?
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So they swapped DW+5 for Macc+58 basically ;-P
Unless DW+5 is still there but it's just missing from the description because of a translation error.
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