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By Rairin on 2025-06-10 05:45:50 |
Why else would they add an NM system? Homam and Nashira equivalents?
The gear is disappointing; though it does bring m.eva up to par. Some of the mage pieces have best in slot m.eva now, not that it's reason enough to use them. Given the content is basically a walk in the park, it seems intentional. I doubt they're going to unseat Sortie/Odyssey gear with things that are totally soloable.
Still a letdown. Both the content and the rewards. Hopefully next patch is more interesting. |
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I wouldn't hold my breath for it, but I wouldn't rule it out completely either.
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How much do you expect the items to change from +4 to +5 given the change from +3 to +4. I already said it. I consider the jump from +4 to +5 equal to the +3>+4 jump.
+10 HP/MP, +5Def, +1 "skill", +1 MDB, +10 attack, +5 Acc/Macc, etc etc |
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By Dodik on 2025-06-10 05:40:41 |
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How much do you expect the items to change from +4 to +5 given the change from +3 to +4.
Empy armor was already tons better at +2 over +1. The +3 upgrade was relatively minor compared to +2.
I guess they could subvert expectations and have the +5 be the big upgrade.
But do you really want to have your hopes completely destroyed like that?
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Mobs are easy to sleep and enfeeble. But there is some fun to be had. Apollyon SW is full of mobs which can be silenced, but are not silent.
Imps, brains, demons, eyes. You silence them all and it does nothing. Kinda funny.
Oh - things with true sight before still have it now. Be careful running through to the end.
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Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »I didn't need to read this thread to be really disappointed with the update. I reviewed my favorite job gear and really let down.
Yes, I ONLY expected to bring stats up to par w/ end game gear stats... as far as stats go..
No, I'm disappointed by not fixing what could be fixed.
Ankusa Jackcoat +4 gains 1 point of MDB. that is the ONLY change.
None of the Ankusa pieces got any pet accuracy or any pet improvements at all. which means the pet stats are still completely useless.
On the 2 totemic pieces with pet attack, we gain 5 pet attack each. Pets are attack starved, and these are the 2 biS pet attack pieces already, but we don't get any significant pet attack increase.
I don't really expect SE to +5 any of this gear in the future. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't expect it.
Bst pets are
prioritizing a list of gear to upgrade is easy. just upgrade the wsd pieces. It should not need to be said, but they are obviously going to add additional stats later when they add the NM system. Why else would they add an NM system? |
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By Xilk on 2025-06-10 05:33:48 |
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I didn't need to read this thread to be really disappointed with the update. I reviewed my favorite job gear and really let down.
Yes, I ONLY expected to bring stats up to par w/ end game gear stats... as far as stats go..
No, I'm disappointed by not fixing what could be fixed.
Ankusa Jackcoat +4 gains 1 point of MDB. that is the ONLY change.
None of the Ankusa pieces got any pet accuracy or any pet improvements at all. which means the pet stats are still completely useless.
On the 2 totemic pieces with pet attack, we gain 5 pet attack each. Pets are attack starved, and these are the 2 biS pet attack pieces already, but we don't get any significant pet attack increase.
I don't really expect SE to +5 any of this gear in the future. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't expect it.
Bst pets are
prioritizing a list of gear to upgrade is easy. just upgrade the wsd pieces.
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These +4 pieces didn't add any really stats or I'm tripping???
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Easy to sleep. Horde Lullaby worked
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This seems to be a nicer area for newer/casual players, if they are willing to group up (3 trust limit). It's a nicer spot for farming job points than grinding apex, and seems comparable xp/cp/mlev
To enter (for new players or returnees):
You enter Sea from the entry points at Holla/Dem/Mea crags, if you don't already have the home points (each take you to a different part of the map).
You obtain the key item to enter, either by killing the Aw'euvhi or by touching the ??? at H-5 (Temenos) or D-8 / l-8 for (Apollyon)
The home point is right next to the entrance, once you have the key item.
Once inside you talk to the operator, set the level you want and go up (119-30). As you start they are DC (if you picked 119)and get higher level as you to later levels, upto VT+.
Someone already said there's the same -90% AoE damage on target different from the main one.
What about the typical debuffs? Do they sleep easily or immune? |
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By Dodik on 2025-06-10 05:23:22 |
Someone has obtained Grace yet? post a picture of the buff icon if you have.
Was in the patch notes:  |
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Sooo... 100k for a full set.
I.e. two weeks confirmed to get 5 pieces.
Body and Head on one week, Hands, Legs and Feet another week.
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Skulker's Bonnet +3 is betterest Skulker's Bonnet +3 is awesome in general, but for it to be better on WS (not just for Rudra but for pretty much anything since PDL applies to all hits) you need AT LEAST 20% attack above the cap.
If you reach cap on the current target at, say, 4000 att, You're gonna need ~4800 att for Bonnet to be BiS.
Which might be your everyday situation, or it might be quite rare, kind of depends what you use THF for and with which friends/mules, I suppose.
Normally I'm on THF for solo stuff, I rarely get at the cap so no chance I'm ~20% above.
For very very low level stuff where I'm clearly way above the cap, I get to 99k without PDL so it's not particularly relevant probably |
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By K123 on 2025-06-10 05:14:10 |
Last time I checked, AF+3 head was already better than R25 Nyame head during SATA for Rudra's, maybe for Ruthless too I dunno, didn't test.
Regardless of that, I always wondered why they went for 6% WSD for THF and RDM AF and Relic, instead of the typical 10% all other jobs got.
They didn't do the same on Empy so this could've been the right time to "fix" things, I really wonder what was their criteria for choosing a smaller number for these two jobs. RDM makes more sense, they didn't want it to be a top DD like it is now. THF is a slap in the face for a job that doesn't get taken to things already |
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By K123 on 2025-06-10 05:12:38 |
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »I bet one Relic and one AF per week, right?
Gonna take a long time...
If I had to guess, 10k per piece. This gives you 1 set per week (if you focus only on a single job). Takes ~half a year to do all jobs. 2 pieces and a half per week.
~1 year to do all jobs on +4.
Okaaaaay...
(still better than a single piece per week though)
As expected, people with a lot of jobs and a passion for JSE, will have to accurately pick what to update first, won't be easy to create a priority list. Per week doesn't matter when you lose points when you get kicked out? |
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It even shows on the gear it has the augment tag, with base augments on it ready to be upgraded.
Isn't that just the merit augment? In the case of that picture, Savagery from war relic mask |
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We have to bare in mind they are not done updating Limbus. They said they are still adding in NMs later, so maximum per week may eventually go up. When I say this, I am thinking of Sortie. We had a cap of 100k, but when you finished VR missions the cap became 100 mil.
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It even shows on the gear it has the augment tag, with base augments on it ready to be upgraded.
Someone has obtained Grace yet? post a picture of the buff icon if you have.
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Skulker's Bonnet +3 is betterest
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Last time I checked, AF+3 head was already better than R25 Nyame head during SATA for Rudra's, maybe for Ruthless too I dunno, didn't test.
Regardless of that, I always wondered why they went for 6% WSD for THF and RDM AF and Relic, instead of the typical 10% all other jobs got.
They didn't do the same on Empy so this could've been the right time to "fix" things, I really wonder what was their criteria for choosing a smaller number for these two jobs.
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Now start a petition to get SE to remake FFXI
Like they've done for how many of there other games
It's time for a 2025 remake
Hell no! FFXI does not need a remake. It's fine as it is. You can never recreate what FFXI did throughout its entire life. Not everything needs a remake.
Somehow, I feel no remake could make things worse so...
IMO, there is a good chance for a win. |
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By K123 on 2025-06-10 04:45:32 |
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COR AF body should be better than Nyame R25 body for last stand
Both WAR and SAM body are better than R25 Nyame too, same is true for all the 12% WSD pieces, the accuracy will be welcome.
Still don't understand why they *** THF over with WSD %. Way to say they don't intend it to be a DD.
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By Vikter on 2025-06-10 04:37:45 |
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thank you!
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By Shiraj on 2025-06-10 04:32:33 |
Chest confirmed open after doing all 25 floors. Key item is under permanent Key items.
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Awaiting the addon that changes bogey green border into prime purple border...
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By K123 on 2025-06-10 04:12:13 |
I'm excited for this since I never beat it. I loved strategy games like this (Vandal Hearts, Kartia, Front Mission, Ogre Battle etc.) and felt it was such an underrated genre. Now they just need to remake Xenogears and I'll finally beat the games I didn't get to! Nothing will ever beat Vandal Hearts for me, but I've played it so much I know how to do it like the back of my hand now. |
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By IGDC on 2025-06-10 04:11:21 |
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To open the chest, you need KI from every tower, ever floor (all 25).
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Per Velner's stream, opening the chest requires all temp items from all zones (25 total in Temenos).
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By K123 on 2025-06-10 04:09:21 |
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So disappointing, I'm sure it'll be there on +5 ?
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