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By Izual on 2025-06-10 20:01:02
Love the content! A fantastic chronicle of our favorite game.
By Senaki on 2025-06-10 19:59:13
Bahamut.Raineer said: »
Asura.Iamaman said: »
Bahamut.Raineer said: »
I finished Apollyon with a party of 6. In order for the chest to open, you need to finish all of the zone, not just one section. So Apollyon is 18 KIs, Temenos should be 25 KIs. If the chest says "it won't open", you need more KIs.

Curious what the time commitment was, how long did it take your party to do this?
Maybe 90 minutes, but we're not in ranked oddy and i wasn't pulling trains. It's still 18 floors for Apollyon and 25 for Temenos. So I can't see it being much less than an hour. (edit: I'm aware this will age well when people are clearing this in 15 mins in a month)

Idk if we just did it subpar, but was about 45min - 1hr per Section clear in Tem.

Maybe Apo takes less time due to less floors. Tem is also a bit of a maze and is easy to get lost.
By Meeble on 2025-06-10 19:54:09
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
First go around I had 2 chars get 5k (whm and cor)
second go around I had one char get 5k (cor again luckily enough for them)

Also got Delineated grace


Also I may have miscounted, but Temenos N E W is 7 kills per cycle, Central is 14, and dead people dont get credit to their bar.

I'm guessing quantity needed to fill the bar scales with party size. This seems like it would be very efficient to do with a full alliance.
By Meeble on 2025-06-10 19:51:18
Tarage said: »
Meeble said: »
Rezoning and/or changing your set level does not remove any acquired temp items. They are even added back into your temp inventory on re-zoning if you throw them away. Opening a chest seems to be the only way to get rid of them and earn full points again.

Do you mean rezoning inside, IE going back to the "lobby", or do you mean actually leaving Limbus all together and coming back? Because my impression was once you started getting the temp items, if you leave, they vanish.

I mean leaving/re-entering the actual Temenos zone. Warping, death/HP, or walking out of the zone in the lobby area. And again, you keep the temp items for floors you have cleared no matter what. All that resets is the floor data bar.

You can move between different floors/areas inside Temenos without affecting anything, each floor's data is tracked separately and persists until you increase the enemy level or leave Temenos entirely. We had somebody die and miss a kill on C4 last night but not realize it until we finished all the towers. We hopped back over to the lobby, straight back to C4, and their bar was 1 kill away from finished.
By NynJa on 2025-06-10 19:26:44
Tarage said: »
Meeble said: »
Rezoning and/or changing your set level does not remove any acquired temp items. They are even added back into your temp inventory on re-zoning if you throw them away. Opening a chest seems to be the only way to get rid of them and earn full points again.

Do you mean rezoning inside, IE going back to the "lobby", or do you mean actually leaving Limbus all together and coming back? Because my impression was once you started getting the temp items, if you leave, they vanish.
I did a loop of Temenos at 125, picked up another C-F4 before exiting, changed level to 130, and I still have the C-F4.

The only progress thats lost is per-floor progress, and thats only if you change level. They didnt want people doing a floor at 119, leaving, changing level to 130, and getting points for doing the whole set at lvl 119. The units you get per floor is affected by mob level. The ending crate units is not (it seems).
By Senaki on 2025-06-10 19:12:34
Came across a ??? For 3k near Dark Faries in Central.
By Dexprozius on 2025-06-10 19:09:44
Anyone figure out why some people are getting 5k opening the chest and others are getting 3k?

ALSO, I've only seen the shiny ??? that rewards 3k for touching it in an Apollyon zone. Has anyone seen it in Temenos? is it random spawn/location?
By noodlespoon on 2025-06-10 19:08:15
Felgarr said: »
I lack the vocabulary to describe the level of discontent I feel right now. :(

I don't even feel the need to update my game client. I'm just going to bed.

SE seems to lack the vocabulary also, three typos in the first conversation with the Apollyon npc /sigh

makes it feel like even cheaper content
By Tarage on 2025-06-10 19:05:31
Meeble said: »
Rezoning and/or changing your set level does not remove any acquired temp items. They are even added back into your temp inventory on re-zoning if you throw them away. Opening a chest seems to be the only way to get rid of them and earn full points again.

Do you mean rezoning inside, IE going back to the "lobby", or do you mean actually leaving Limbus all together and coming back? Because my impression was once you started getting the temp items, if you leave, they vanish.
By Tarage on 2025-06-10 19:03:59
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Why would the AOE debuffs not work?

I'm not sure if this is what they are running into, but there's weird hate mechanics that occur when you aggro a mob. Before you have aggro, if you try to act on a mob, whatever action you are TRYING to do will fail, and it will THEN aggro you. This is due to their weird "The mob's level changes as soon as you aggro" mechanic, which causes this stutter between when you aggro it and when you can act on it.
By Meeble on 2025-06-10 19:02:53
Meeble said: »
IGDC said: »
Taint said: »
What ilvl did you do and how many points per mob?

i119 = 10

Solo @ 119 = 60 points for KI
Solo @130 = 170 points for KI

Edit: this was in Temenos - I can't say 100% it's same for both zones.

Repeating a floor(filling the bar again after getting the Temp Item) seems to reward 50% units. We got 170 the first bar, 85 the second. Did not think to try a 3rd while we were inside, or go back in to see if it resets after opening a chest.

Went back for some more Tenemos testing, all solo with 3 trusts this time.

Points per floor start at 60 for i119 and increase by 10 for every additional ilvl, up to 170 at i130.

Floor progress (the bar) is preserved between areas unless you leave the zone entirely or return to the entrance and increase your set level. Lowering your set level does not reset floor progress.

Once you obtain the temp item(and unit reward) for clearing a floor, you can continue to kill stuff, but all subsequent bar fills on that floor will result in -50% unit rewards(30-85 depending on ilvl) rather than the full amount.

Rezoning and/or changing your set level does not remove any acquired temp items. They are even added back into your temp inventory on re-zoning if you throw them away. Opening a chest seems to be the only way to get rid of them and earn full points again.
By Minaras84 on 2025-06-10 18:50:27
I'm curious though.
The only way for bst to get dragon killer in Ody is with the demon earring and food right?
Cause i don't understand the Bumba part.
Even stacking all the enhances "xxx killer" effect, you can't transfer it because it doesn't come from a pet, so in order for it to proc you must be the target of the enemy aka have hate/tank it.
How does this help with Bumba?
By Goltana101 on 2025-06-10 18:37:22
gistofanything said: »
What are some general upkeep items to take care of that every (serious) player should do? It looks like I previously completed all main storylines prior to TVR.

Work on Coalition ranks, do all Mog Gardens (I know, yuck), including monster rearing, finish up Adoulin so you can get Ygnas/+1 ring if you care. Start getting into Sortie so you can earn points and upgrade empyrean +2/3, even if it's very small amounts of points per day. Do your monthly deeds, rewards cumulative bonuses (pandemonium key, mars/venus orbs, pulse weapons the notable ones), do your monthly RoE category 4 objective for silver vouchers to convert to Mars/Venus orbs (also buy 5 silvers from the NPC and get your free monthly Mars Orb). These are good to sell or use for free gear if you win. Do Odyssey for Segments (Sheol C), grab a KI and farm solo in A if you can't get a group, make some money and don't waste it. If you see shouts for it, do Weekly Vagary for sellables. Ambuscade of course. Take advantage of monthly campaigns like Job Cards, iseals, Dynamis-D. Just stay active, lots of stuff to do regularly that will get you up to speed fast.
By NynJa on 2025-06-10 18:32:25
Why would the AOE debuffs not work?
By Xilk on 2025-06-10 18:31:33
RadialArcana said: »
MMO players have zero self control, so they will eat this stuff up and then be disappointed there is no surprise or anything mysterious. This is not about me it's about the community, and in effect Funk wants the dopamine hit from finding all this stuff out before anyone else.


No one aside from yourself is or should be responsible for you "lack of self control"

You don't speak for the community, you speak for yourself. 1 voice in the community. I see a couple others might agree with you, but alot more do not.

You are showing the entitled attitude of a karen who should rightfully be despised. you are not justified in any way shape or form with any of your whining and demanding. you came to this thread voluntarily. This update thread has been an ongoing tradition on these forums for YEARS.
By SimonSes on 2025-06-10 18:27:14
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
* Maxixi Bangles +4 got +3 DEX, +2% WSD, +10 Acc, +5 Atk, making it competitive with Nyame B hands
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
* Horos Tights +4 got 2% WSD, 3 STR, 5 Acc, 10 Atk, making it better than Nyame B imo

You somehow got it backward. Hands are the only one being better with +3str, +6dex, +16agi, +1wsd over r30 nyame+

Legs has nothing better than Nyame. Less STR, less AGI, less attack, same wsd.
By Goltana101 on 2025-06-10 18:22:25
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Generous Arthur's C. ooze and P. ooze AOE effects work fine.

Well, that's quite generous of them.

By gistofanything on 2025-06-10 18:20:36
gistofanything said: »
Overwhelmed (as always) trying to return to the game - I figured a good place could be to identify any account housekeeping I may need to do.

What are some general upkeep items to take care of that every (serious) player should do? It looks like I previously completed all main storylines prior to TVR.
(bump, we got lost in the sauce with the new update)
By Tarage on 2025-06-10 18:11:51
So does this limbus stuff work on upgrading +0-+2? Or is it just going from +3 to +4?
By K123 on 2025-06-10 17:38:12
Dildonunchucks said: »
Also I use this as a base WS set but most people say ammo and earring 3% WSD and 2% WSD lose out to extra DEX in those slots like Coiste+Odr?
By Nalf on 2025-06-10 17:37:37
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I want you to update this addon so the pet graphic "dances" when it's engaged and stops moving when its not xD


By Mistressfifi on 2025-06-10 17:31:21
Bahamut.Raineer said: »
Mistressfifi said: »
Dildonunchucks said: »
MPK is back baby!
This player had a train of mobs
They hit the floor right in front of me
While i was busy with a few mobs
Next thing i know
I'm face down
*** up
yep. someone died near me with a few mobs.. i died shortly after.
makes the content a bit more fun if you ask me lol
i think this is the most MPK-friendly event/content they have ever added
I also like it that you can work together with other players that arent in pt (can pull mobs. sleep. they melee some you melee some)
if they want to do a Nerf i would sugguest simply removing exm loss (is there exm loss even? i dont pay attention)
There is loss on death because one of the buffs you earn over time by opening chests is reduced loss on death lol
....oh.. well people either bot/buy Mlvl. or are like me and just Don't care. (although there might be a few who care and are legit)
i could see the less loss upon death thing though becoming a permenant thing & always active (if its not already?)
By K123 on 2025-06-10 17:30:14
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
You can swap the weapon and it's the same base 100% DA set, assuming the cape augment is 10% DA
I see what you mean. Laphria=STP cape, Chango/Ukon/mythic=DA cape.
By Goltana101 on 2025-06-10 17:29:22
I want you to update this addon so the pet graphic "dances" when it's engaged and stops moving when its not xD
By Goltana101 on 2025-06-10 17:28:17
Skarwind means when you need to use the pet DT body but also stand in range yourself (Mboze comes to mind).
By Nalf on 2025-06-10 17:28:17
Update v1.4

GitHub: BST-HUD

As per Zeta's feedback:
* Tweak to the Ready charge timers to make them more consistent




zeta said: »
I dont know BST that well so apologies if i am wrong. It seems the charge timers on the addon are slightly off from the game.

Hey Zeta,
Thanks for the feedback and sorry for the delay,
I've made some tweaks as to how the addon checks for the equipement the user has when doing a Ready move and it should be more sturdy and consistent with the Ready cooldown timer now.

Also keep in mind that when you are trying to use a Ready move that requires 3 charges for example, the game will display the time you have to wait for the cooldown of the 3 charges combined, whereas the addon shows you the cooldown of each individual charge 1 by 1.

If you can have a try with this new version and check if you're still experiencing the same cooldown offset please ?
By Raineer on 2025-06-10 17:26:53
Mistressfifi said: »
Dildonunchucks said: »
MPK is back baby!
This player had a train of mobs
They hit the floor right in front of me
While i was busy with a few mobs
Next thing i know
I'm face down
*** up
yep. someone died near me with a few mobs.. i died shortly after.
makes the content a bit more fun if you ask me lol
i think this is the most MPK-friendly event/content they have ever added
I also like it that you can work together with other players that arent in pt (can pull mobs. sleep. they melee some you melee some)
if they want to do a Nerf i would sugguest simply removing exm loss (is there exm loss even? i dont pay attention)
There is loss on death because one of the buffs you earn over time by opening chests is reduced loss on death lol
By Goltana101 on 2025-06-10 17:26:21
You can swap the weapon and it's the same base 100% DA set, assuming the cape augment is 10% DA
By Raineer on 2025-06-10 17:24:29
Cerberus.Josafath said: »
Since the repop is fast I have filled few bars on same floor and keep getting 50% points out of them... Dont know if there is a limit or you can just do that until you cap the 30k or even the 50k points mark.

Also, does anyone know if there is a time limit? I dont see any clock and have not received any warning message so far...
I’m pretty sure there is no time limit of any kind. You’ll need to open chests to get the upgrade KIs but it looks like they are not lost on use to upgrade a piece. You also get a chunk of units for opening the chest or finding ??? marks on various floors.
By Minaras84 on 2025-06-10 17:22:52
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Minaras84 said: »
My eyes did cross a little bit reading the bg-wiki page, as it listed all the new af/relic +3 by piece and not by job, but is it me or there are only 2 pieces to prioritize?
Obviously talking about af hands and relic head for that _insane_ extra 2% on wsd.

Maybe Tot. Jackcoat +4 to get some MEVA. Its a nice pet -DT piece, but makes you a bit squishy.

Quote:
DEF:157 HP+108 MP+54 STR+39 DEX+44 VIT+34 AGI+43 INT+33 MND+36 CHR+38 Accuracy+60 Magic Accuracy+60 Evasion+109 Magic Evasion+109 "Magic Def. Bonus"+8 Haste+4% "Reward"+26 Enhances "Reward" effect III Pet:Damage taken -10% Set: Accuracy+ Ranged Accuracy+ Magic Accuracy+

We can wear malignance and it still has more than the jackcoat +4
For pet DT yeah, its a good piece to use if only your pet is in.
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