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By . on 2025-10-02 11:57:25
By . on 2025-10-02 11:56:14
Kaffy said: »
consume consume consume

what ever happened to quality over quantity?


Sometimes even "bad" games have something worth experiencing.
By . on 2025-10-02 11:54:56
By Brimstone on 2025-10-02 11:43:01
Ok I think I get it, so long as you can do 5% on v25 (and are consistently doing V25s?), you'll always get enough RP back to justify an amplifier. Even if you're low on segs you can convert them back.
By . on 2025-10-02 11:37:58
Alfania triple posted on you guys.

That sucks
By . on 2025-10-02 11:32:44
MS are not a charity.

Come on people, let's be real.

Yes, you are right, there are several reasons a company would continue to prop up a service or product that makes no profit.

None apply to gamepass.

Unless either of you have any reasons to suggest why MS would increase prices other than to make profit.
By . on 2025-10-02 11:32:31
By Garuda.Chanti on 2025-10-02 11:30:21
Dodik said: »
Why would a company create and run a service that makes it no profit.
Many reasons. Publicity. As a charity or charitable contribution. To collect salable data. To funnel people, or merely their clicks, to moneymaking parts of the company / service.

That's from 30 seconds of thought. Try thinking on the subject for a bit. You will find more.
By . on 2025-10-02 11:26:29
By . on 2025-10-02 11:02:48
A lot more, relative to what they pay game devs for access to their game library. MS doesn't publish profit numbers.

How do I know it's more? Because they offer the service to make money.

I know grown ups that pay for game pass because it used to be pretty cheap and gave you access to lots of games.

I always thought it's a scam and if I want to play a game I just buy it.
By Bahamut.Negan on 2025-10-02 10:55:17
I have a rl question. Do grown ups pay for Gamepass or the PS equivalent? Honestly. Because I can see kids wanting Gamepass then playing one game a month.
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-10-02 10:51:17
The slim chance their game is an absolute banger and people go out of their way to buy a standalone copy to support the company that made the game.

see Clair Obscur, which was released on gamepass.
By . on 2025-10-02 10:38:23
Dodik said: »
MS makes a lot more money off game pass than game devs do. If you think otherwise.. delulu.

Revenue is not profit. Afaik MS only published revenue data not profit.

I tried to find profit margin for this particular services but I haven't found any data yet. Do you have data?

I don't make assumptions unless I see the data.

And let's say even if MS is massively profiting from Game Pass, why is that negative? I still don't understand.

Dodik said: »
can game devs make money by solely publishing their game via game pass?


The situation that Game pass is the only option for publishing games don't exist, what's the point to discuss it? Honestly if you are afraid of platform monopoly, Steam has FAR higher chance to become monopoly than Game Pass. The difference aren't even close.

The idea that people spam negativity on MS despite Steam is the absolute winner here also doesn't make sense.

Dodik said: »
The negativity is simply around subscription rental services for games

But there ARE people who consume games very fast and they just aren't buying 5 $70 games per month. And sub services makes it possible for them to rotate games faster.

So again, why negative? If there are no market need for this then sub service will die. If there is a market need then why can't sub service exist for these people?

It's not like game dev's freedom to sell games on Steam is taken away by MS.
By Goltana101 on 2025-10-02 10:37:41
By Zeroize on 2025-10-02 10:32:19
ilugmat said: »
People are mostly fairly anti-social these days, they are not going to team up. If the option is wait an hour or team up, they are gonna wait an hour.

If you need proof of that, you only need to look at Einherjar.

It just takes one person to take the lead. People hate setting up their own stuff. Always been that way.
By Rairin on 2025-10-02 10:29:27
Dodik said: »
Someone that has T1 V25 clears but V15-V20 clears on T3/T4 is better served doing 3x V25 then a single V15-V20.
Ah yea, that makes more sense. If you don't have access to your target NM on v25, there's some justification.
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-10-02 10:25:59
You're the one who brought up dev income from gamepass subscriptions.

gamepass is great for low budget indie devs, its great for AA+ games that are 5++ years old. Its *** horrible for brand new games to be released on subscription services like gamepass.
By ilugmat on 2025-10-02 10:23:44
People are mostly fairly anti-social these days, they are not going to team up. If the option is wait an hour or team up, they are gonna wait an hour.

If you need proof of that, you only need to look at Einherjar.
By RadialArcana on 2025-10-02 10:17:42
Phoenix.Shantae said: »
I've always seen the underlying preferential attention and promptness towards the JP playerbase as downstream of how SE handled the game's international launch, with JP players generally reacting pretty negatively when NA players started showing up on their servers. This is also why I personally believe Dragon Quest X has remained a JP exclusive title to this day. These are just my schizo theories, though.

The producer of DQX simply does not want to waste his devs time converting the game and then having to support western markets, he is happy doing what he is doing.

Square Enix have far less control over these games than people think they do, many of these games are run like mom and pop stores and SE simply funds them. If Fujito and the last 3 devs woke up tomorrow and said they are done the game would close. SE would not find more people and carry it on.

DQx was never converted cause the producer doesn't want to do it, SE don't force him to do so cause of money concerns. So because of that, it's never going to happen.

SE are not run like western companies, people really need to get that into their heads.

If anything, from what Yoshi P has said. they don't even really care about the JP audience that much anymore and see the west as the most important. That is literally what he said about ff16.
By . on 2025-10-02 10:14:40
Dodik said: »
My point is saying "money spent on game pass goes to devs" is complete BS.


I am pretty sure a portion of them did, otherwise no one would agree to put their games on game pass.

But yeah, if you absolutely want to support the dev, pre-order games on day one with deluxe edition is the best way.

Also I think how much a dev benefits from putting their game on game pass is case by case.
By Fenrir.Richybear on 2025-10-02 10:11:44
I've always wondered that, if game devs got treated like artists on Spotify like "hey, congrats on that indie banger! You had 500,000 downloads this month! Here's your cheque for $1.73."
By Brimstone on 2025-10-02 10:08:38
What's the optimal way to earn RP for a specific piece of equipment?

My understanding is this:
1. get 3 phone IIs and an amplifier (10.5k segs)
2. enter gaol, do a v25 (any tier?) but not the one you want, take it to 94%
3. repeat #2 on another v25 (or the same one take it to 90%?)
4. use your amplifier and do the v25 of the one you want and kill it

This should net 10476 RP if I'm understanding correctly?

Repeating 4x takes something to rank 29 (need about 3k more to rank 30)

(i realize available jobs/skill/gear may not make this practical for any group, i'm just trying to make sure understand the best way to optimize segs/time to get something to max rank)
By . on 2025-10-02 10:05:24
My point is saying "money spent on game pass goes to devs" is complete BS.
By Goltana101 on 2025-10-02 10:05:07
Kaffy said: »
now make sortie earring boxes that reroll job until you get the one you're on!

Clearly they CAN do it, but this line here pretty much reinforces their ideology when it comes to making things easier:

Quote:
Given that a reasonable period of time has passed since its first implementation

When was Malignance gear added, 2019? 6+ years. Sortie is only 4 years old, so you got some time before they start giving out freebies.
By Dodik on 2025-10-02 09:58:57
They went back on the shared servers and auto-translate thing for XIV, so definitely something they don't seem to want to do again.
By Goltana101 on 2025-10-02 09:58:21
Fenrir.Richybear said: »
The real endgame is seeing how many times you gotta use Malignance Box to get the piece you're missing, being 4/5. I know you'll eventually get it, but it'll be funny to be like "Sweet, just need Boots, and now I have a box."
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This is funny. They must have not wanted to go through the work of adding the Malignance pieces to an NPC via an exchange reward system where you could just pick your reward, and decided on this dice roll method. Scared of the spaghetti
By Dodik on 2025-10-02 09:56:16
It takes 2min just for the brd to finish singing songs, if talking Gaol.

Time your regen to go up with the bard's last song.
By on 2025-10-02 09:40:51
By Richybear on 2025-10-02 09:38:22
The real endgame is seeing how many times you gotta use Malignance Box to get the piece you're missing, being 4/5. I know you'll eventually get it, but it'll be funny to be like "Sweet, just need Boots, and now I have a box."
Body
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Gloves
Legs
Body
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By . on 2025-10-02 09:36:26
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