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Yep! Getting there!
Last thing I've added was tracking the different tiers for the debuffs, and redoing some icons to make them easier to understand what they are.
Just updated the test lab discord with the latest build with that stuff in it, but I think it's probably good to go though.
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By Keyser on 2025-07-28 17:19:44 |
Yep! Getting there!
Last thing I've added was tracking the different tiers for the debuffs, and redoing some icons to make them easier to understand what they are.
Just updated the test lab discord with the latest build with that stuff in it, but I think it's probably good to go though.
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How much do yall find losing the macc on quickdraw, in return for Mirke Wardecors / Blood mask delay -5, impacts your ability to land QD on endgame targets where it matters?
Main thing I've been caring about landing QD on atm has been when soloing in limbus, light shot is a big life saver for sleeping when I link a bunch of adds and trusts are struggling to keep up on the heals.
Its a pretty huge macc loss though, so I dunno if the delay- is worth it...
Out of the two pieces the head gets slightly more macc on it than the body so id use that if you do want to cap delay. |
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Putting the numbers in the crunch-o-matic 9000 sim, Shinsoku is still tops when you have enough dCHR
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My Doji, 500jp, ambu gear Sam can probably do 20k fudo. I saw some prime geared sam doing 35k on the same mob. Big difference but probably not that big.
With all respect, this anecdote is meaningless without context. No idea what buffs were run, how well geared the players were, what you were fighting, was attack capped, what TP value the WS were used at, was def-% on the target? 35k is quite low for a Prime SAM, but if we are talking about a Limbus mob or something, that changes everything.
Anyways, from my observations from other SAMs who have it, it's at least on par with Masamune at 4 (I beat a P4-SAM in Segs with Masamune, but I have R30 Nyame vs his R25, so that's not really a 1:1 comparison), and is much stronger than Masamune at 5. I'd say you're going to be like 15-20% higher WS damage using P5 Mumei vs Fudo.
With all respect your anecdotal observations are as meaningless and you provided almost no information too. Sim says 20% higher dps with capped attack. No skillchain included. No SPs. 10% when attack uncapped. AM3 for both. Spamming Fudo and Mumei. |
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How much do yall find losing the macc on quickdraw, in return for Mirke Wardecors / Blood mask delay -5, impacts your ability to land QD on endgame targets where it matters?
Main thing I've been caring about landing QD on atm has been when soloing in limbus, light shot is a big life saver for sleeping when I link a bunch of adds and trusts are struggling to keep up on the heals.
Its a pretty huge macc loss though, so I dunno if the delay- is worth it...
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Do you have vsync enabled in Dgvoodoo ? No, I don't have vsync or any iteration of vsync enabled anywhere. |
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By Jhoo on 2025-07-28 16:28:53 |
Would anyone like to take a guess at what the next update will include?
Any update on it ? |
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By Fenrir. Niflheim on 2025-07-28 15:50:44 |
hmm they should get with the times, just a gendered brand can't last in this day and age.
ok actually looked it up there are La-Z-Girls "Recliners for women", so as a result I change my statement to be offended that they are implying that women are lazy. |
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By Leviathan. Supernads on 2025-07-28 15:50:20 |
So last night my home desk chair died, it is very sad. I have had that chair for longer than I have been with my husband.
I got it in High School when a neighbor was moving out and offered it to me, it was like a $500 chair and was amazing (still is). But all things come to an end, i have had that chair for ~18 years and I have no idea how long it was in use before I got it.
But it is no longer adjusting the height anymore, it is stuck in a single position won't go down or up.
So like anyone got a suggestion for a desk chair?
Maybe the hydraulic cylinder on your existing chair can be replaced? If that remedies your problem it's a pretty easy fix. |
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By Asura. Iamaman on 2025-07-28 15:49:37 |
I like Secret Lab's series of chairs, very comfortable and ergonomic.
Can be reclined into a "I'm so lazy while watching videos on the PC" position.
I've had one of these for about 2 years now and I tend to agree. I find it comfortable and haven't had any durability issues with it.
That said I had a Herman Miller since 2008 and it came from an office closure. Other than the gas cylinder going bad, it was in really good shape for being almost 20 years old. It's really well put together.
If you are really attached to your old chair, might be worth looking to see what failed in the assembly and seeing if you can replace or fix it. If the strut is seized then you might just be able to replace it. |
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By Bahamut. Negan on 2025-07-28 15:47:58 |
Herman miller or steelcase Don't forget La-Z-Boy recliners! |
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By . on 2025-07-28 15:38:10 |
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even amazon sells them used frequently
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Thank you for looking into this!
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By . on 2025-07-28 15:12:21 |
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By Fenrir. Niflheim on 2025-07-28 15:01:38 |
So last night my home desk chair died, it is very sad. I have had that chair for longer than I have been with my husband.
I got it in High School when a neighbor was moving out and offered it to me, it was like a $500 chair and was amazing (still is). But all things come to an end, i have had that chair for ~18 years and I have no idea how long it was in use before I got it.
But it is no longer adjusting the height anymore, it is stuck in a single position won't go down or up.
So like anyone got a suggestion for a desk chair?
The Shaquille O'Neal Zethus Ergonomic chair was very comfortable to me, to the point I'm gonna get one when I get another job. looks similar to the chair i have, but no leather. I hate leather always feels sticky and gross. |
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A certain *** who won't be named had access to my account and made a mule to offload the metric tons of garbage i normally have in my inventory.
Is this XI's version of " my twitter account got hacked"?
Wasn't a hack. Just a friend who has/had account access being a smartass. |
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Asclepius
For The Win
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My Doji, 500jp, ambu gear Sam can probably do 20k fudo. I saw some prime geared sam doing 35k on the same mob. Big difference but probably not that big.
With all respect, this anecdote is meaningless without context. No idea what buffs were run, how well geared the players were, what you were fighting, was attack capped, what TP value the WS were used at, was def-% on the target? 35k is quite low for a Prime SAM, but if we are talking about a Limbus mob or something, that changes everything.
Anyways, from my observations from other SAMs who have it, it's at least on par with Masamune at 4 (I beat a P4-SAM in Segs with Masamune, but I have R30 Nyame vs his R25, so that's not really a 1:1 comparison), and is much stronger than Masamune at 5. I'd say you're going to be like 15-20% higher WS damage using P5 Mumei vs Fudo. |
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By Finbar on 2025-07-28 14:41:32 |
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I really necroed the hell out of this thread.
Maybe I should come back and not main WHM.
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By Andret on 2025-07-28 14:35:52 |
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My Doji, 500jp, ambu gear Sam can probably do 20k fudo. I saw some prime geared sam doing 35k on the same mob. Big difference but probably not that big.
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By Jinxs on 2025-07-28 14:28:17 |
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I’m considering making a Prime but it’s a LONG Time investment so I want to know what I’m looking at before taking the plunge here, if it makes any sense.
The plunge is just grinding points/psyches, which is time gated. Deciding to start down this path now has no bearing on how strong the weapon is, you can just grind the points and decide later what you want to do with them. Don't have to decide right now. |
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Since so many endgame zones have perma dark weather, isn't chatoyant kinda situational to grab nowadays?
What content in 2025 simultaneously has enough dmg output where you wanna pop off max cures, but doesn't have dark weather to *** up your ele bonus? Omen?
I was sorta assuming nowadays a whm is more focused on mp sustain, i have no idea though.
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Please forgive me for the Necro but I figured this might be the most appropriate place to ask this question:
How much of a lead does Kusanagi have over Masamune? I’m considering making a Prime but it’s a LONG Time investment so I want to know what I’m looking at before taking the plunge here, if it makes any sense.
What are we looking at? 10% Better? 20%? Moot-Point because even Masa is Capped at High-Buff?
Or if this was already discussed at length elsewhere, if I could have the link, I’ll pipe down and go read there.
Thank you
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By . on 2025-07-28 14:11:25 |
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I like Secret Lab's series of chairs, very comfortable and ergonomic.
Can be reclined into a "I'm so lazy while watching videos on the PC" position.
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Quote: Do people not understand the skill chain box?
No, that's what skillchain calculators are for. The way elements combine in the skillchain heirarchy makes no sense. |
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By Asura. Vyre on 2025-07-28 14:08:24 |
So last night my home desk chair died, it is very sad. I have had that chair for longer than I have been with my husband.
I got it in High School when a neighbor was moving out and offered it to me, it was like a $500 chair and was amazing (still is). But all things come to an end, i have had that chair for ~18 years and I have no idea how long it was in use before I got it.
But it is no longer adjusting the height anymore, it is stuck in a single position won't go down or up.
So like anyone got a suggestion for a desk chair? 
The Shaquille O'Neal Zethus Ergonomic chair was very comfortable to me, to the point I'm gonna get one when I get another job. |
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By Dodik on 2025-07-28 13:56:25 |
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On that subject, do you suggest Whms just eat the ilvl drop from Chatoyant or is there another option? For both weather and non-weather cures.
Personally I dislike using non-ilvl weapons in the main slot, especially if whm is getting hit or in range of aoes.
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@op
Do you have vsync enabled in Dgvoodoo ?
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