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By maletaru on 2026-01-29 08:06:34
GetHelpNerd said: »
with the abundance of supportive roles and meds in the game with relatively low cooldowns and not a lot restrictions it likely is not the optimal way to play by any measurable metric.

stacking 5/5 malig is probably the laziest way to play though i'll give you that, and with 5 trusts as your companions, lazy is probably the best choice

I mean, it depends a lot on the context because this game isn't a spreadsheet.

If you're using a Remedy, you have to stop attacking to use it. It can also be paralyzed. You can't use a Poison Potion while you're asleep. You can't remove stun from yourself.

Also: meva isn't only to remove debuffs. If you bring 6 people with ***meva into a V25 Ngai fight, you will very quickly realize this.
By Montigo on 2026-01-29 07:51:51
I assure you, the rationalization is only so DD's can stay DDing and not be enfeebled. It's entirely selfish and no one cares about making support jobs lives easier. Ok, some people might care but it's a pretty big 90/10 or 85/15.
By GetHelpNerd on 2026-01-29 07:47:13
only on ffxi would you have this bizarre rationalization that in fact DPS jobs should do less DPS to make the lives of support roles easier
By Asura.Vyre on 2026-01-29 06:52:02
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Valve attempted to get a frivolous lawsuit dismissed
Corrupt UK courts said no

And what happens when the corrupt UK court deems Valve guilty?

They pay what?
A $900 mil USD fine
If the lawsuit doesn't get laughed out of court like it did when these same idiots tried to class action sue Sony, and Valve has to actually pay anything, it would be payment of a settlement or an award(by the judge or jury) since they'd be paying as the result of litigation.
By Vyrerus on 2026-01-29 06:38:27
LightningHelix said: »
haha, he was just chililng in the sky! I totally forgot that part of 5-3.

After asking the question, I realized that I might have just misinterpreted the ine I'm quoting. He could literally have meant "he showed up, unleashed terrifying power on the Yagudo, and then everyone was glad that he left instead of also flattening Windurst" - like they were glad to stop seeing him because he was not about to kill them all...

...but yeah, actually, that dialog from Grav'iton makes it pretty clear that Fenrir was specifically prevented from running wild (possibly Abyssea-style where there are just the roaming Avatars?) by the Horutoto Ruins
This brings to mind that both the Kuluu and Zilart were versed in containing god-like beings via different methods.

The Kuluu did Horutoto and Pso'Xja, while The Zilart made the Protocrystals.

Pso'Xja even used to have level restriction in most of it. A nod to nullification of power of what resides inside.
By SimonSes on 2026-01-29 03:03:10
By SimonSes on 2026-01-29 03:01:38
@Maletaru
@Sechs

For me personally Malignance level of meva is gold standard for hybrid tp set. Normal TP set would be slightly lower, but full Revelation is like 192 meva lower.
That's why I said I wouldn't use 5/5 of this set at once, but you can easily take few pieces and mix it with for example bunzi.
If you wear like 3 pieces (body legs feet) and also use Null Shawl, you will only be 70 meva below Malignance. This is preferred anyway, because Bunzi head is bis anyway and hands are almost break even (8%DA vs 6%da and 4stp).
By SimonSes on 2026-01-29 03:02:50
By Lili on 2026-01-29 02:14:41
Fenrir is best boi and you'd be upset either if they locked you down in a well to turn your energy into mana to use in their city

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By Akumasama on 2026-01-29 01:00:15
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
SimonSes said: »
Revelation set on the other hand has pretty big drop with meva and it's definitely not a set, where you want to wear all 4~5/5 pieces at the same time.

IDK, guess it's probably true for WAR, but for BRD,
It kinda depends what you used. More or less like you said.
If you used the old TP set model with Volte Hands, Legs and Feet, then Simon's post is not on point because Revelation, despite its lower avg meva, is still way way better than all three.
But these days who still used those 3 pieces?
I mean legs for sure, because of 9% haste and lack of better options, but I bet most people used different hands (Bunzi?) and feet (Nyame B R25 or 30?)
In which case, his point for Meva stands, but you get better stats in pretty much everything else DPS-related.

Then there's body. Most people probably use Ashera Harness, and the others use uhm, maybe the old Ayanmo+2? Which still provides decent acc, some DT and some DA.
For both of those options Revelation is, again, much better so while Revelation has low Meva etc, it's still better than previous options if you used any of those I mentioned.

If you ask me on BRD TP I'd use Bunzi R25+ for head, then 4/5 Revelation for the rest, with a case for Bunzi Hands which actually might be a better overall option because of the defensive stats despite lower dps stats.

I haven't mathed it out or used the sim btw, just saying what I feel like on a hunch.


Personally I'm really really really interested at least in Revelation Body/Legs/Feet.
It's more a matter of putting other Limbus pieces with higher priority (like Sworn for instance, arguably even Duty and some Clemency tbf).

I don't play WAR but if I did I don't think I would be particularly interested in Revelation.
And for NIN it's uhm... I dunno. Revelation can be nice of course but then again it doesn't really feel like OMG either. Maybe mix&match some pieces.
I dunno how do you guys feel for NIN?
By . on 2026-01-28 23:28:18
So far page 23019 seems to be entirely skippable.
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2026-01-28 23:14:27
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
By . on 2026-01-28 23:06:43
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Why are you balking at calling it a fine this time? You called it a fine that first time around, what changed?

its not a fine, its a legally imposed financial penalty
By Sieve on 2026-01-28 23:04:56
By Jakey on 2026-01-28 22:48:22
Ya so at the time DRG weaponskill damage didn't exist yet so there wasn't really a reason to specify that DRK ws dmg only applied to the first hit, that was just how weaponskill damage worked.

Enspells generally don't directly add damage to ws's.

Still nice testing, always appreciate when people go and check things and report back.
By Terravcota on 2026-01-28 21:55:56
I had issues with the original Windower update. Took the new update and thought the problems went away. Then I triboxed a Sortie on Monday and got locked on porters/chests 5 different times (at least once in each instance). No packetflow, but do use dressup.
By NynJa on 2026-01-28 21:11:41
If it makes you feel any better, Montreal busses cant handle icy roads either:
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By maletaru on 2026-01-28 20:58:23
SimonSes said: »
Revelation set on the other hand has pretty big drop with meva and it's definitely not a set, where you want to wear all 4~5/5 pieces at the same time.

IDK, guess it's probably true for WAR, but for BRD, comparing to my current (previous) TP set:

Body (Ashera Harness): meva+4
Hands (Bunzi's Gloves): meva-39
Legs (Volte Tights): meva+3
Feet (Nyame Sollerets): meva-40

So I guess hands/feet are "a big drop", but the other 2 slots aren't a sacrifice at all, for BRD. Compared to Malignance/Sakpata for WAR or NIN, sure.

At the end of thr day though, you have to balance meva and DPS stats and (IMO), it's not the best idea to select the highest meva slot for all 5 slots at the cost of anything/everything else.

I personally take the approach of "good enough" meva, kinda like a hybrid set. You don't turtle in 5/5 Nyame or Empyrean armor just because it's the safest and you don't want to get slept. OTOH, you don't wear 5/5 Herculean QA pieces with 25 meva each, because you'll never resist any TP move or spell ever.

Final note then: I think the Revelation set EASILY clears the bar for "good enough" meva, and would be suitable for any current endgame content. Sure, if you REALLY want to you can swap out a piece or two for a bit more meva, but I don't think the sacrifices would be worth it or the benefits would be significant.
By Garuda.Chanti on 2026-01-28 19:27:56
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
What did you say is paid by the losers?
Anything the court orders them to pay. There's a long list of things losers in a court case may be ordered to pay or do.
By Chanti on 2026-01-28 19:24:15
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Mild winter here in N central WA. 15 F was the coldest so far and not enough snow for a snowball. Our winters usually get down to 0 F with a foot or so of snow.
Been a while since we saw much more than a dusting in western Washington. :/ maybe next year
Come off it. Six inches of snow and the entire I5 corridor from Vancouver BC south to Eugene OR is at a standstill.

I visited upstate NY one winter. I could keep the locals howling with laughter with stories of snow in Seattle and how the city handles it.

Tell me, did Seattle ever get more snowplows to supplement the 22 it had when I lived there?
By Draylo on 2026-01-28 18:36:06
It got really really cold, and they did a horrible job for most of the transportation here. Not seen it this cold in ages, the river froze up which looked nice, can't remember the last time that happened like this







By . on 2026-01-28 18:01:22
No one has been fined no matter how much you try to squirm. Just admit you didn't actually read an article on the topic and take your loss.
By Tesahade on 2026-01-28 17:58:56
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Mild winter here in N central WA. 15 F was the coldest so far and not enough snow for a snowball. Our winters usually get down to 0 F with a foot or so of snow.
Been a while since we saw much more than a dusting in western Washington. :/ maybe next year
By Bolmster on 2026-01-28 17:32:47
Genoxd said: »
I have Oshala too if we need any more data on that one

Argisto provided a link earlier in this thread(https://x.com/za_ibd/status/1809190197768437899) which I believe is what BGwiki is based on(source not listed). If you are interested in confirming it feel free to collect more data.

It might be worth collecting some 2k TP Dagda numbers too just so we don't dwell on the assumption 1k to 3k is linear for it.
By Garuda.Chanti on 2026-01-28 17:07:45
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
So what is it Value will have to pay if they lose that court battle if its not a fine? A 900 million USD what??
I am not acquainted with British law but much like American law fines paid by losers are not always what what the prosecution asks for.

Also they are asking for restitution of 44 pounds / customer. Don't know if that's included in the $900 M you are quoting.
By Dexprozius on 2026-01-28 17:04:09
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I used Frailty when I was GEO, but didn't mention it because it might have been nerfed, and even if not, there's a lazy mode component to it where I have to heal the Bard/Curaga tag to register luopan on everything before it takes effect. Probably faster to Fury/STR but Frailty should work fine. But I wasn't watching damage specifically do can't say for sure.

Frailty is un-nerfed and Extremely potent. Dont be lazy and skip out on it. Its quite easy to hit attack cap on these mobs, so the def down is really noticeable.

Like Mcdoogle said, dispelga works wonders.
By Chanti on 2026-01-28 17:02:02
Worst it got for temperature was -56 F with wind chill in Minnesota.

No idea where the snow was worst or how much fell.

Mild winter here in N central WA. 15 F was the coldest so far and not enough snow for a snowball. Our winters usually get down to 0 F with a foot or so of snow.
By MelioraXI on 2026-01-28 16:24:55
So, how bad is it? Over here in Norway we've had -22F and over 6 feet snow since early January, normal winter basically.
By Montigo on 2026-01-28 16:24:05
You can just dispelga and it tags while removing protect/etc.
By Cloudius777 on 2026-01-28 16:21:02
Asura.Vitellius said: »
The new Duty/Justice set is nuts~!
Neat way for SE to buff less popular jobs.

Sadly they still screwed SMN on their set though.
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