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Gov. Rick Perry indicted on felony charges
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 14:49:09
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Spoken like a true America hater. Liberalism at it's finest.
Yup, I hate America for criticizing her. More people should 'hate' America rather than buy into the 'we're #1, we're #1' nonsense sold to you by your leaders.
Like any country we've got work to do in getting better and that doesn't happen unless we admit we got problems.
Right and all those solutions require your money to fund. It's the only way we can solve everybody's problems. You do want to solve everybody's problems right? I mean don't you CARE???
By fonewear 2014-08-19 14:51:11
I don't care but I'm good at faking it.
I thought Rick Perry was that guy from Friends.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-08-19 14:52:20
Excuses are easy, expansion and pragmatism are hard.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-19 14:56:30
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Spoken like a true America hater. Liberalism at it's finest.
Yup, I hate America for criticizing her. More people should 'hate' America rather than buy into the 'we're #1, we're #1' nonsense sold to you by your leaders.
Like any country we've got work to do in getting better and that doesn't happen unless we admit we got problems.
Right and all those solutions require your money to fund. It's the only way we can solve everybody's problems. You do want to solve everybody's problems right? I mean don't you CARE???
It takes ideas, vision and money. Not dwelling on the past and sinking more money into the military budget and tax cuts that go overseas. What America needs right now is a vision, a leader and Congress that have some idea we can all rally around rather than this divide and conquer ***that lobbyists love.
We're losing our government. Some would say its gone already but we need it back.
We can't solve everyone's problems but admitting this country has a serious problem with blacks might be a start. I mean, the pols can't stop fawning over educating those 'folk' on what the right path is and the public is still running off racist 'scary black folk' rhetoric taht kicks in every time someone dark gets shot.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 14:59:46
Spoken like a true America hater. Liberalism at it's finest. You preach the pursuit of introspection, but lets be honest. You're not content with introspection, really you just feel entitled to other people's money simply because you don't have any yourself. If you wanted to "be honest", you wouldn't pretend to know anything about my financial situation. That's not honesty. That's making ***up for lack of a real answer. Spoken like a true America hater. Liberalism at it's finest. You preach the pursuit of introspection, but lets be honest. You're not content with introspection, really you just feel entitled to other people's money simply because you don't have any yourself.
See? Conservative pessimism.
Can't grasp that someone might have empathy for another human being, so you jump right to suspecting an underlying motive. Empathy is one thing but if you both were really so noble and moral, you'd go earn the money yourselves instead of insisting other people be force to give it up themselves at the threat of imprisonment.
By fonewear 2014-08-19 15:00:36
The best way to solve any problem is throw money at it till it goes away.
Or blame a previous President for the current state of America.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 15:01:09
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Spoken like a true America hater. Liberalism at it's finest.
Yup, I hate America for criticizing her. More people should 'hate' America rather than buy into the 'we're #1, we're #1' nonsense sold to you by your leaders.
Like any country we've got work to do in getting better and that doesn't happen unless we admit we got problems.
Right and all those solutions require your money to fund. It's the only way we can solve everybody's problems. You do want to solve everybody's problems right? I mean don't you CARE???
It takes ideas, vision and money. Not dwelling on the past and sinking more money into the military budget and tax cuts that go overseas. What America needs right now is a vision, a leader and Congress that have some idea we can all rally around rather than this divide and conquer ***that lobbyists love.
We're losing our government. Some would say its gone already but we need it back.
We can't solve everyone's problems but admitting this country has a serious problem with blacks might be a start. I mean, the pols can't stop fawning over educating those 'folk' on what the right path is and the public is still running off racist 'scary black folk' rhetoric taht kicks in every time someone dark gets shot. Oh this should be good, what is this country's serious problem with blacks?
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 15:03:06
Quote: Empathy is one thing but if you both were really so noble and moral, you'd go earn the money yourselves instead of insisting other people be force to give it up themselves at the threat of imprisonment.
Okay, again. You're assuming my financial situation and being pessimistic. The only money paid to me by the government I earn through work or gets cut to me by the IRS in the form of my income tax return.
And I'd be okay with them taking more in taxes if it meant better, more well-regulated police forces, infrastructure, health care, and education.
...and that's not even all that's wrong with that statement.
You really are just a hopeless conservative rhetoric puppet so much of the time. ;;
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 15:04:43
Oh this should be good, what is this country's serious problem with blacks?
Really?
Like, seriously? You're asking this with a straight face?
No. No you're not. You've officially trolled the hardest you've ever trolled. I get it now.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-19 15:06:53
Oh this should be good, what is this country's serious problem with blacks?
Open a book, you just might learn something.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 15:07:31
Quote: Empathy is one thing but if you both were really so noble and moral, you'd go earn the money yourselves instead of insisting other people be force to give it up themselves at the threat of imprisonment.
Okay, again. You're assuming my financial situation and being pessimistic. The only money paid to me by the government I earn through work or gets cut to me by the IRS in the form of my meager income tax return.
And I'd be okay with them taking more in taxes if it meant better, more well-regulated police forces, infrastructure, health care, and education.
...and that's not even all that's wrong with that statement.
You really are just a hopeless conservative rhetoric puppet so much of the time. ;; Why wait until they raise taxes on that? You could just donate some of your money to the local police force, school, hospital etc if you're really that compassionate.
Your idea of compassion is to force other people to donate to your cause.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 15:08:11
Oh this should be good, what is this country's serious problem with blacks?
Really?
Like, seriously? You're asking this with a straight face?
No. No you're not. You've officially trolled the hardest you've ever trolled. I get it now. Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Oh this should be good, what is this country's serious problem with blacks?
Open a book, you just might learn something.
No I want both of you to put it into words for me. What is the country's current serious problem with blacks?
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-08-19 15:09:35
I feel like I'm watching fox news
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-19 15:10:21
You want me to put it in words for you because you're drawing a blank based on your own ignorance.
Protip: We're 50 years out from blacks being treated like equal human beings which is well within the lifespan of most of our elected officials who would have grown up in an America that thought otherwise. An america of white superiority codified into laws.
Still drawing blanks?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 15:15:42
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »You want me to put it in words for you because you're drawing a blank based on your own ignorance.
Protip: We're 50 years out from blacks being treated like equal human beings which is well within the lifespan of most of our elected officials who would have grown up in an America that thought otherwise. An america of white superiority codified into laws.
Still drawing blanks? So we don't live in an America of law enforced white supremacy. Is that a problem? Cause I asked what the problem was and that doesn't sound like a problem.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-19 15:18:37
I'm interested in what you think the underlying causes of violence is. I think it's largely driven by poverty and the intrinsic difficulty, whether real or assumed, that comes with escaping it. (Could also argue a culture that places too much emphasis on material wealth instead of more humanist qualities, such as the pursuit of knowledge, but eh... too philosophical.) Violence brought on by mental illness is probably comparatively much rarer, but there's still a stigma associated with diagnosis and treatment that discourages either. Sexual violence is, in some part, perpetuated through the idea that the woman was somehow asking for it as well as a general fuzzy understanding of what consent actually is.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 15:20:20
Quote: Empathy is one thing but if you both were really so noble and moral, you'd go earn the money yourselves instead of insisting other people be force to give it up themselves at the threat of imprisonment.
Okay, again. You're assuming my financial situation and being pessimistic. The only money paid to me by the government I earn through work or gets cut to me by the IRS in the form of my meager income tax return.
And I'd be okay with them taking more in taxes if it meant better, more well-regulated police forces, infrastructure, health care, and education.
...and that's not even all that's wrong with that statement.
You really are just a hopeless conservative rhetoric puppet so much of the time. ;; Why wait until they raise taxes on that? You could just donate some of your money to the local police force, school, hospital etc if you're really that compassionate.
Your idea of compassion is to force other people to donate to your cause.
Again, if you want to express it in such pessimistic, selfish views, then yes. I guess you could put it that way. And that's the only way you're willing to see it, so. I guess yes, you're right?
Quote: No I want both of you to put it into words for me.
I literally do not have the time to give you a lesson in the history of race relations in the United States. There are entire college courses of study devoted to this topic. Try looking up things like "Jim Crow" laws. Try looking up laws where it was illegal for a black individual to marry a white individual. Blacks not being allowed to vote. The list goes on.
Racism still exists. It's not as blatant as it once was and it's slowly going way, but it's not there yet. By a long shot.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 15:22:22
I'm interested in what you think the underlying causes of violence is. I think it's largely driven by poverty and the intrinsic difficulty, whether real or assumed, that comes with escaping it. (Could also argue a culture that places too much emphasis on material wealth instead of more humanist qualities, such as the pursuit of knowledge, but eh... too philosophical.) Violence brought on by mental illness is probably comparatively much rarer, but there's still a stigma associated with diagnosis and treatment that discourages either. Sexual violence is, in some part, perpetuated through the idea that the woman was somehow asking for it as well as a general fuzzy understanding of what consent actually is.
Bolded part is accurate, but not entirely. Just because the violence itself was not brought on by mental illness does not mean there is not at least a casual relation between the amount of untreated psychological disorders in the poor black community and crimes, both violent and non-violent.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-19 15:22:28
Nah, racism ended as soon as the ink was dry of the Civil Rights Act. Natch.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 15:23:42
Nah, racism ended as soon as the ink was dry of the Civil Rights Act. Natch.
Ohh. I forgot. *** me.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 15:25:04
I'm interested in what you think the underlying causes of violence is. I think it's largely driven by poverty and the intrinsic difficulty, whether real or assumed, that comes with escaping it. (Could also argue a culture that places too much emphasis on material wealth instead of more humanist qualities, such as the pursuit of knowledge, but eh... too philosophical.) Violence brought on by mental illness is probably comparatively much rarer, but there's still a stigma associated with diagnosis and treatment that discourages either. Sexual violence is, in some part, perpetuated through the idea that the woman was somehow asking for it as well as a general fuzzy understanding of what consent actually is.
Lots of people are born to be poor Pleebo. Lots of people if they were to suddenly to win the lottery, are so bad with money that they would be right back in the poorhouse after a few years. Most of those people are poor because of the choices they have made and continue to make. Christ, haven't you ever met someone who no matter what you do cannot seem to learn from their mistakes?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-19 15:28:22
haven't you ever met someone who no matter what you do cannot seem to learn from their mistakes? It's not their fault that they made those mistakes in the first place, remember?
It's the evil rich who keeps them down and keeps them from succeeding in life. Never mind the multiple examples of poor kids in ghettos succeeding in life. That doesn't happen, so said the Liberal God, Al Gore.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-19 15:28:32
Nah, racism ended as soon as the ink was dry of the Civil Rights Act. Natch.
You don't know how close to the truth this statement is in America.
When you think history is some kinda Saturday Morning Special where everything is neatly resolved before breakfasts warm, this is the result.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 15:28:53
Is it not possible that people can be bad with money because they are never given the opportunity to have any?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-19 15:31:11
Think I'll just ignore King here, he is the architect of the 'why didn't the slaves just run' school of thought.
I think even Kindergartens across America could have formulated a better train of logic.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-19 15:31:30
Lots of people are born to be poor Pleebo. Lots of people if they were to suddenly to win the lottery, are so bad with money that they would be right back in the poorhouse after a few years. Most of those people are poor because of the choices they have made and continue to make. Christ, haven't you ever met someone who no matter what you do cannot seem to learn from their mistakes? Sure, but saying it's difficult to be poor and to stop being poor is not meant to be an excuse for idiots. Just like saying it sucks to be black in certain areas of the U.S. is not an excuse for people to loot and riot or that violence against women is an excuse for others to lie about rape.
It's simply me stating where I think the problem lies.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 15:32:18
Nah, racism ended as soon as the ink was dry of the Civil Rights Act. Natch. You're right, we've got racial quotas now in public institutions that permit less qualified candidates simply because they aren't white.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-19 15:34:19
Is it not possible that people can be bad with money because they are never given the opportunity to have any?
Or the knowledge of complex processes like investments, real estate, loans etc etc.
There is so much in generational wealth that is ignored. Your grandparents having a house, some kind of secondary sources of income, investment portfolios, business acumen, collegiate degrees that are passed onto you among other things puts you at a clear advantage over a group of people who were expressly barred from owning property or having access to the information on these topics. Being goaded into a shitty neighborhood by real estate agents because you'll drive down your peers property value (cause blax do that) is yet another example of the inherent racism we live in.
For a beautiful anecdote, I'm my families second degree-holder. Second.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 15:34:32
Pleebo, you're some kind of brown, right? Would you say that you never see the effects of lingering racism?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 15:36:14
Lots of people are born to be poor Pleebo. Lots of people if they were to suddenly to win the lottery, are so bad with money that they would be right back in the poorhouse after a few years. Most of those people are poor because of the choices they have made and continue to make. Christ, haven't you ever met someone who no matter what you do cannot seem to learn from their mistakes? Sure, but saying it's difficult to be poor and to stop being poor is not meant to be an excuse for idiots. Just like saying it sucks to be black in certain areas of the U.S. is not an excuse for people to loot and riot or that violence against women is an excuse for others to lie about rape.
It's simply me stating where I think the problem lies. Yeah but you're always gonna have people who make bad decisions, and are poor because of those decision. Why not allow them the freedom to make those bad decisions. I mean shouldn't I be allowed to spend money I should've saved on hookers and blow if I want to?
Grand Jury indicts Rick Perry
Quote: (CNN) -- A grand jury has indicted Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, saying he abused his power by trying to pressure a district attorney to resign.
The two felony counts against Perry, a Republican, stem from his threat to veto funding for a statewide public integrity unit run by Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg unless she stepped down, the special prosecutor in the case, Michael McCrum, said.
Perry attorney David L. Botsford called the indictment a "political abuse of the court system." He said the action "violated the separation of powers" and "sets a dangerous precedent by allowing a grand jury to punish the exercise of a lawful and constitutional authority afforded to the Texas governor."
CNN affiliate KVUE reported that Perry will have to report to the Travis County Jail in the capital of Austin to be booked, fingerprinted and have his photo made for a mugshot.
Perry can continue to serve as governor while under indictment, KVUE reported. His attorneys could seek to have the charges thrown out, a motion that would delay the case, at the very least.
The grand jury in Travis County indicted the governor on charges of coercion of a public servant and abuse of his official capacity.
I actually didn't believe the headline when I first saw it, but its on every website, even the beloved Fox News. So this is real, its not some doomed publicity stunt *looking at you and your little lawsuit Boehner*
The failed Presidential candidate and pathetic governor of Texas is facing two felony counts of abusing power and coercion. He is going to be arrested, booked, fingerprinted, and a mugshot taken. Can't wait to see that.
Apparently he thought he could use his power to pressure an attorney to resign. I'm not surprised that he would attempt something like that due to his huge ego and lack of intellect, and living in Illinois, used to seeing governors go to jail. He is facing 99 years if convicted.
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