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Random Politics & Religion #00
By Lye 2015-03-31 13:02:19
Why would I be at all surprised that Nausi doesn't understand clauses relating to the "freedom of speech."
By fonewear 2015-03-31 13:02:24
Nationalize the banks!
More socialism for everyone!
Just waiting for the National Socialist Party of America to emerge.
Then history will fully have repeated.
I hope we bring back the 1920's I wanna get those coppers see !
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 13:03:46
Go to North Korea if you like it so much.
I love the smell of facile arguments in the afternoon.
Dictatorships are generally not socialist states regardless of the propaganda they feed their abused citizens. They don't start off with a dictator, but give them about 10-20 years.
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-31 13:03:50
Nationalize the banks!
More socialism for everyone!
Just waiting for the National Socialist Party of America to emerge.
Then history will fully have repeated.
Problem being with your theory is that the nationalists in this country are the people who hate communism and socialism. They're the ones that want people to die in the streets, as long as they do it out of sight and away from their well-manicured lawns or penthouse apartments with American flies flying patriotically.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-31 13:05:08
I hope we bring back the 1920's I wanna get those coppers see !
We already did, basically. The 90s boomed, the 00s crashed...
So what we should be looking for is a world war any time now, apparently.
Hmm. Globalized military actions you say?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-03-31 13:06:37
So what we should be looking for is a world war any time now, apparently.
Don't worry, Obama and Iran are working on getting one started.
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 13:07:04
Let me know when you guys are ready for WWIII.
Thinking it should start in Serbia again, for old times' sake.
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 13:07:34
Of all the P and R threads in the world I walk into the gay wedding cake one !
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-03-31 13:08:21
Is that icing on your face?
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 13:08:53
Play it again Sam !
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-31 13:09:18
Is that icing on your face?
Someone was just happy to see him.
By fonewear 2015-03-31 13:10:38
Hey I didn't bake the wedding cake it was always burning since the world's be turning !
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-31 13:10:53
So what we should be looking for is a world war any time now, apparently.
Don't worry, Obama and Iran are working on getting one started.
While the ingredients for disaster are surely there, I'd expect it to start (if it starts at all) in the ("former") Soviet sphere of influence, given their fear of not having a buffer zone between their "do whatever we want sovereignty" and the big bad NATO countries.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-31 13:12:27
WWIII: God Dammit Europe stop trying to end civilization.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-31 13:13:17
"Hey, at least we don't kill 'em!" - American conservatives
Pleebo comes unhinged, produces the ultimate strawman and gets {+}s. Just another day in P&R. That was the argument being presented. That gays are being killed in the middle east therefore and like such as hurr durr. Where did anyone say "at least we don't kill em?" or anything even remotely close to that?
Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that lol. It's not really your right to call someone eles a ***
You're 100% wrong here, but thanks for validating the idea you don't believe in freedom of speech. Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words#United_States"In Snyder v. Phelps (2011), dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech. The majority disagreed and stated that the protester's speech was not personal but public, and that local laws which can shield funeral attendees from protesters are adequate for protecting those in times of emotional distress." That...doesn't help *any* of your points. Yes it does, they carry around signs spouting "***" all over them. People have tried to shut them down and fail because their speech is protected.
I could call you any number of things, you could not have me arrested for them. Go back, re-read what you quoted, specifically the distinction between personal and public.
"***" certainly isn't a threat, nor is it a "fighting word". No one's been arrested for calling someone else that, ever. Can you provide example?
By fonewear 2015-03-31 13:13:41
JFK blown away what else more can I say !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-03-31 13:14:58
All I know is that I'm very seriously hungry for wedding cake now... our wedding cake was seriously awesome.
so it was really all just a conspiracy to boost weeding cake sales in the off season... I see what you did there diabolical cake bakers union!
By fonewear 2015-03-31 13:15:16
Now I'm trying to find gay wedding cakes in that Billy Joel song !
By fonewear 2015-03-31 13:17:09
All I know is that I'm very seriously hungry for wedding cake now... our wedding cake was seriously awesome.
so it was really all just a conspiracy to boost weeding cake sales in the off season... I see what you did there diabolical cake bakers union!
The difference between gay cake and straight cake is night and day !
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-31 13:17:59
"***" certainly isn't a threat, nor is it a "fighting word". No one's been arrested for calling someone else that, EVER.
Personally, I like the George Carlin/Louis C.K. take on the word "***" myself. And all the other "bad words", for that matter.
Calling someone any form of "gay" as an insult is just idiotic in and of itself. Of all the terrible things to call someone, accusing them of being intimate with another human being is somewhere around #100,000 on the list.
But hey, we're the same country that censors sex scenes, but not graphic violence.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 13:18:35
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »WWIII: God Dammit Europe stop trying to end civilization. They're been trying to do it for over 2,000 years.
Deal with it.
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 13:20:03
I was in two weddings last year. Cake eaten zero. Drinks consumed umm the usual amount !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 13:21:52
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By Lye 2015-03-31 13:23:39
"Hey, at least we don't kill 'em!" - American conservatives
Pleebo comes unhinged, produces the ultimate strawman and gets {+}s. Just another day in P&R. That was the argument being presented. That gays are being killed in the middle east therefore and like such as hurr durr. Where did anyone say "at least we don't kill em?" or anything even remotely close to that?
Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that lol. It's not really your right to call someone eles a ***
You're 100% wrong here, but thanks for validating the idea you don't believe in freedom of speech. Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words#United_States"In Snyder v. Phelps (2011), dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech. The majority disagreed and stated that the protester's speech was not personal but public, and that local laws which can shield funeral attendees from protesters are adequate for protecting those in times of emotional distress." That...doesn't help *any* of your points. Yes it does, they carry around signs spouting "***" all over them. People have tried to shut them down and fail because their speech is protected.
I could call you any number of things, you could not have me arrested for them. Go back, re-read what you quoted, specifically the distinction between personal and public.
"***" certainly isn't a threat, nor is it a "fighting word". No one's been arrested for calling someone else that, ever. Can you provide example?
I'm not going to instruct you when it's ok and when it's not.
I encourage you to explore a "trial and error" method.
Repeated attempts will likely qualify as "repeated acts of annoyance" and result in harassment charges as per most state harassment statutes.
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Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-03-31 13:23:59
I was in two weddings last year. Cake eaten zero. Drinks consumed umm the usual amount !
Seems to me like a majority of wedding cakes suck anyway.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-03-31 13:24:30
I was in two weddings last year. Cake eaten zero. Drinks consumed umm the usual amount !
wedding cakes typically suck anyways. I have been to more than one wedding the cake was destroyed in a cake based food fight.
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 13:26:17
Well at least we find a topic more controversial than global warming and that produces a ton of replies for days on end. Gay wedding cakes.
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 13:26:58
Cake will be the death of tolerance !
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-31 13:27:07
I was in two weddings last year. Cake eaten zero. Drinks consumed umm the usual amount !
Seems to me like a majority of wedding cakes suck anyway.
Note to self: Buy lots of Entemann's.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-31 13:27:47
Well at least we find a topic more controversial than global warming and that produces a ton of replies for days on end. Gay wedding cakes.
Join us next week where we do 55 pages on circumcision again.
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