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Random Politics & Religion #00
yeah, figured as much. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » Since he actually was employed, then he may well be. Since while employed, he probably paid (or his employer paid) unemployment tax. After all, if the tax wasn't paid for the position, it would go straight to the employee, no? That's money out of my pocket, going straight to the government!Nearly all of FUTA/SUTA taxes are collected within the first 3 months of the year. If FUTA/SUTA never existed, that money would not go to the employee at all. So how can this be part of the compensation package in the first place? Of course, there is little likelyhood that if the tax was suddenly revoked, that said businesses wouldn't just pocket the difference, even though they could potentially pay employees better in order to retain them. But then again, the first rule of business certainly isn't: Don't ***where you eat. Jetackuu said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Jetackuu said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Jetackuu said: » Will never affect you. I don't want to pay more taxes for zero benefit for me, and 100+% more benefits for those who willingly refuse to work..... You're not in the 1%, and not everyone who is unemployed or underemployed doesn't want to work. Your argument would hold more weight if you also weren't against a minimum wage increase. Not to mention that our economy has long since passed the point to sustain a 100% employment rate, even if you don't include those who are unfit to work. I'm sure you don't even know what the point of total income made would be to be in the 1%. Protip: It is actually smaller than you would expect. I know that not everyone who is unemployed or underemployed doesn't want to work. That is what unemployment benefits are there for, to assist those who are actively seeking employment. Minimum wage has nothing to do with unemployment benefits in this argument. Why are you even bringing this up in the first place? I know you are only going to pick out parts of sentences and, like Pleebo, will only concentrate on those words and not the meaning. But at least everyone is warned of the incoming obvious arguments that will happen. I can guarantee that nobody who fits in the 1% American earner bracket posts on this site as much as you do. You are so full of it, it is unreal. Why don't you do something productive for once in your life instead of complaining that life is hard? Asura.Kingnobody said: » Jetackuu said: » Of course the rich wouldn't want to pay more, but it's their duty to. Why do you think it is our duty to support the rest of the world who doesn't want to support themselves? They make their money off the backs of the working class, it's their duty to support them back. I know this concept will be foreign to you, and you'll never understand it. Cerberus.Tikal said: » What makes him a liberal? he has liberal cooties from hanging around other liberals
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Jetackuu said: » Bismarck.Ramyrez said: » Jetackuu said: » Bismarck.Ramyrez said: » The rich wouldn't want to pay more. A lot of the unemployed wouldn't want to actually work. Of course the rich wouldn't want to pay more, but it's their duty to. A lot of unemployed people do actually want to work, hence why they're considered unemployed, as they're actively seeking employment. Or are you going with the non-technical term? What I'm saying is, there are a lot of unemployed "professionals" out there who would consider physical labor beneath them. That has little if nothing to do with what we're talking about. Why would somebody who made 60k a year, who's on unemployment for a layoff at let's say 40k (because I don't remember the rate, and am too lazy to look it up) take a shitty job making less than they would on unemployment? People have mouths to feed and homes to keep, it would literally be stupid for them. Not to mention that it is beneath them, people don't go to school and get degrees in fields that use their brain to be reduced to mindless physical labor. No job is beneath anyone. All that dictates your job is time, place, and circumstance.* You can be the greatest programmer in the world. If nobody needs you to program in the area you live, and you're not willing to move, then you'd better damn well get on finding a different job outside your field. If you're sitting on your *** doing nothing because "the right thing hasn't come along yet", you're a bum. Pure and simple. *Edit: Well, ability, obviously. But we're assuming someone with a specific skillset already.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » Assumptions galore. You are so full of it, it is unreal. Why don't you do something productive for once in your life instead of complaining that life is hard? It's not an assumption, but a simple deduction. Coming from a leech of a corrupt system, you have no room to talk about being a productive member of society. I at least do things productive, even when I'm not working. Bismarck.Ramyrez said: » No job is beneath anyone. All that dictates your job is time and circumstance. You can be the greatest programmer in the world. If nobody needs you to program in the area you live, and you're not willing to move, then you'd better damn well get on finding a different job outside your field. If you're sitting on your *** doing nothing because "the right thing hasn't come along yet", you're a bum. Pure and simple. Bismarck.Ramyrez said: » No job is beneath anyone. All that dictates your job is time and circumstance. Jetackuu said: » Bismarck.Ramyrez said: » No job is beneath anyone. All that dictates your job is time and circumstance. You can be the greatest programmer in the world. If nobody needs you to program in the area you live, and you're not willing to move, then you'd better damn well get on finding a different job outside your field. If you're sitting on your *** doing nothing because "the right thing hasn't come along yet", you're a bum. Pure and simple. I used programming as an example. Not you. You happen to be in the vicinity of the example. Not deliberate, though I realized it as I typed and left it be. *shrug* Yeah, I believe there's plenty of jobs beneath me, ones that I would shirk and become a bum to avoid.
But it's not as black&white as people think. Like I'd be fine being a Janitor cleaning up ***all day, because sanitation work is quite noble. I've always had an admiration for the people that do the important but undesirable jobs. Now, being a "Helper" at Wal*Mart? I think I'll just be a hobo.
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: » Jetackuu said: » Bismarck.Ramyrez said: » No job is beneath anyone. All that dictates your job is time and circumstance. You can be the greatest programmer in the world. If nobody needs you to program in the area you live, and you're not willing to move, then you'd better damn well get on finding a different job outside your field. If you're sitting on your *** doing nothing because "the right thing hasn't come along yet", you're a bum. Pure and simple. I used programming as an example. Not you. You happen to be in the vicinity of the example. Not deliberate, though I realized it as I typed and left it be. *shrug* I have to go take care of some ***before class tonight, ya'll have fun now, ya hear? Odin.Zicdeh said: » Yeah, I believe there's plenty of jobs beneath me, ones that I would shirk and become a bum to avoid. But it's not as black&white as people think. Like I'd be fine being a Janitor cleaning up ***all day, because sanitation work is quite noble. I've always had an admiration for the people that do the important but undesirable jobs. Now, being a "Helper" at Wal*Mart? I think I'll just be a hobo. My friend is a "janitor" and also a "trash man" (he does both at the same place) and he makes good money, and goes to school, nothing bad about it at all. Bahamut.Milamber said: » Bismarck.Ramyrez said: » No job is beneath anyone. All that dictates your job is time and circumstance. I worked my way through school as a garbageman and this foreign exchange student from france made a frowny nose wrinkle face and said "only immigrants do that in france" pfft I wish I hadn't blown my back out I would still be doing it. Garbage treasures are awesome.
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Dirty Jobs proves that people will do almost anything for money.
I loved that show.
Props to Mike Rowe for having the integrity to stop when Discovery asked him to start "Making ***up." Speaking of Discovery 'Sons of Guns' canceled after star William Hayden charged with child rape
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Jetackuu said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Assumptions galore. You are so full of it, it is unreal. Why don't you do something productive for once in your life instead of complaining that life is hard? It's not an assumption, but a simple deduction. Coming from a leech of a corrupt system, you have no room to talk about being a productive member of society. I at least do things productive, even when I'm not working. 1) You like to talk out of your ***. 2) At least you admitted to being a leech living off of the government's ***. I'm sorry that I will not be able to prove how much income I make, because frankly, you do not need to know, and the only method of proving it would create an unnecessary risk to said income from various thieves and hackers in the world. I don't want to create problems to myself just to satisfy you. Although, please note that I wasn't the one who made assumptions about you. You provided all the information voluntarily to everyone. My only hope is that you do get a job soon to provide a better life for your daughter, instead of the bare minimal needs and teaching her that it is perfectly ok to live off the government to survive. I never asked how much you make, I don't care, it's irrelevant.
You didn't make assumptions but had an issue with reading comprehension. I don't live off the government to survive, but there's nothing wrong with it, people shouldn't have to work for a living in the first place. You're the one here who likes to talk out of your ***, and it's a big one. Jetackuu said: » people shouldn't have to work for a living in the first place. work will set you free.
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Jetackuu said: » I never asked how much you make, I don't care, it's irrelevant. You didn't make assumptions but had an issue with reading comprehension. I don't live off the government to survive, but there's nothing wrong with it, people shouldn't have to work for a living in the first place. You're the one here who likes to talk out of your ***, and it's a big one. Explain if nobody did any work for a living, how you would get food on your table, how you would get a vehicle to travel in, how you could cash your government check you receive, how you can expect to have electricity/utilities/cable/telephone service/etc. service provided to you. You get my picture? That is the reason why Socialism will never work, because without people working, nothing will get done.
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I have blonde hair and blue eyes, so I don't have to work.
True story, get $175 a load down at the sperm bank. Usually pull $800/mo just firing out knuckle children. Moral of the story? Get Aryan.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » Jetackuu said: » I never asked how much you make, I don't care, it's irrelevant. You didn't make assumptions but had an issue with reading comprehension. I don't live off the government to survive, but there's nothing wrong with it, people shouldn't have to work for a living in the first place. You're the one here who likes to talk out of your ***, and it's a big one. Explain if nobody did any work for a living, how you would get food on your table, how you would get a vehicle to travel in, how you could cash your government check you receive, how you can expect to have electricity/utilities/cable/telephone service/etc. service provided to you. You get my picture? That is the reason why Socialism will never work, because without people working, nothing will get done. I didn't say people wouldn't be working, just people wouldn't be working for a living. I'm not a fan of socialism either, you went totally off the deep end. As for the "how" I've covered it all before. Odin.Zicdeh said: » I have blonde hair and blue eyes, so I don't have to work. True story, get $175 a load down at the sperm bank. Usually pull $800/mo just firing out knuckle children. Moral of the story? Get Aryan. Odin.Zicdeh said: » Get Aryan. damn my irish ancestors!
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Jetackuu said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Jetackuu said: » I never asked how much you make, I don't care, it's irrelevant. You didn't make assumptions but had an issue with reading comprehension. I don't live off the government to survive, but there's nothing wrong with it, people shouldn't have to work for a living in the first place. You're the one here who likes to talk out of your ***, and it's a big one. Explain if nobody did any work for a living, how you would get food on your table, how you would get a vehicle to travel in, how you could cash your government check you receive, how you can expect to have electricity/utilities/cable/telephone service/etc. service provided to you. You get my picture? That is the reason why Socialism will never work, because without people working, nothing will get done. I didn't say people wouldn't be working, just people wouldn't be working for a living. I'm not a fan of socialism either, you went totally off the deep end. As for the "how" I've covered it all before. I give it a 6/10. |
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