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Victory Smite WS Build (Numbers)
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-04-23 10:41:45
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RR SS Apoc, gogo.
The STR on VV is pretty devauled in Abyssea, since your fstr is pretty much auto-capped from just cruor buffs.
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By Cerberus.Masterdarkjedi 2013-04-23 10:42:54
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can you tell us which atma is ss?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-23 10:44:03
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Sanguine Scythe.
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By Blazed1979 2013-04-23 10:44:09
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sanguine scythe

EDIT: Seha stole my thunder
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-23 10:44:22
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On DPS the 10% TA beats SS you would want to use both and add in RR.
WS dmg matter as long as it increases the DPS. And if I recall a lot of mnk's' dmg comes from normal melee hits.
I don't totally agree to drop VV but I'm not a Vere Mnk so idk.
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By Blazed1979 2013-04-23 10:46:11
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Cerberus.Detzu said: »
On DPS the 10% TA beats SS.
WS dmg matter as long as it increases the DPS. And if I recall a lot of mnk's' dmg comes from normal melee hits.

That's not always the case. It depends on where. In Abyssea WS dmg takes a larger portion of the over all dmg - especially since VS was released. It also depends on Atmas.

Edit: what buffs did you use when calculating the 10% TA beating SS and what other 2 x Atmas. I'm pretty sure I checked this a year ago and SS/Apoc/RR came out ontop for Vere 90 MNK/WAR with just haste but could be recalling incorrectly.
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By Cerberus.Masterdarkjedi 2013-04-23 10:51:14
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after looking in to that


I'm missing quite a bit lol
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-23 10:54:07
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Damn guys it is hard to type on my phone so sorry for delay (edited my previous post).
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By Blazed1979 2013-04-23 10:55:52
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Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Damn guys it is hard to type on my phone so sorry for delay (edited my previous post).
Hope you aren't driving and texting ><
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By itchi508 2013-04-23 10:57:17
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Cerberus.Masterdarkjedi said: »
after looking in to that


I'm missing quite a bit lol
If your missing gear heres easy replacements you could go with
Thurandaut hat/body
Bier belt or stay with BB
Hachiryu haidates
AF3 or Relic+2 feet
Flame pearl
Mustala gloves
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By Sylph.Krsone 2013-04-23 10:57:38
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I read it as the 10% ta beats vv not ss anyway when I rated up. Yes rr/apoc/ss is usually the favourable option for mnk/war perhaps swapping ss to ghorn in solo situations.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-23 11:00:43
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I wouldn't!
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-23 11:05:17
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
RR SS Apoc, gogo.
The STR on VV is pretty devauled in Abyssea, since your fstr is pretty much auto-capped from just cruor buffs.

I have to agree except when you start to fight NMs with non crit ws jobs. The difference in dmg and time spent is noticeable if you don't use VV.
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By Cerberus.Masterdarkjedi 2013-04-23 11:13:19
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Ok I'm only missing

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Sapphire_Abyssite_of_Furtherance
the rest I got :P will try out the atma you guys talk about.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2013-04-23 11:16:02
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Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
RR SS Apoc, gogo.
The STR on VV is pretty devauled in Abyssea, since your fstr is pretty much auto-capped from just cruor buffs.

I have to agree except when you start to fight NMs with non crit ws jobs. The difference in dmg and time spent is noticeable if you don't use VV.
if you're in abyssea on a non-crit WS job, you're on the wrong job
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-23 11:19:05
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
RR SS Apoc, gogo.
The STR on VV is pretty devauled in Abyssea, since your fstr is pretty much auto-capped from just cruor buffs.

I have to agree except when you start to fight NMs with non crit ws jobs. The difference in dmg and time spent is noticeable if you don't use VV.
if you're in abyssea on a non-crit WS job, you're on the wrong job

LoL.
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By itchi508 2013-04-23 11:21:18
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
RR SS Apoc, gogo.
The STR on VV is pretty devauled in Abyssea, since your fstr is pretty much auto-capped from just cruor buffs.

I have to agree except when you start to fight NMs with non crit ws jobs. The difference in dmg and time spent is noticeable if you don't use VV.
if you're in abyssea on a non-crit WS job, you're on the wrong job
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-23 11:24:19
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As crit jobs all I have is kannagi nin and mnk with ascetic fury.
They're not fast enough in killing things so I use non crit jobs.
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By itchi508 2013-04-23 11:25:11
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Merrited WS have pretty much taken the lead for best dmg, hense the reason people make relics. In and outside Aby they do good dmg and they dont crit.. Already posted previosly reso/upheaval sill pull the best dmg in absyea and hitting up to 16k and beyond under certain conditions.
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By Gimp 2013-04-23 11:36:58
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Blazed1979 said: »
I think if a lot of us post our abyssea resolution and uko fury numbers on here it will ruin the fun - so for now enjoy the CDC.


I didn't know you could choke the chicken that high, I sure as hell couldn-wait.

Nevermind @_@';. . .
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By Cerberus.Stalkster 2013-04-23 20:30:07
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Cerberus.Masterdarkjedi said: »
Cerberus.Stalkster said: »
Cerberus.Masterdarkjedi said: »

weapon skill: Victory Smite
Gears used for ws:
Verethragna
Tantra crown +2 : thurandaut.
Tantra cyclas +2 :For Impetus up.
Atheling mantle :Rancor mantle.
Justiciar's torque
Thaumas gloves :If your using head/legs/hands/feet for set bonus it still loses to a mix build. Mustela
Black belt :Caudata belt unless some how you have wanion
Aseir ear pendant : 3-4Str earring or kemas but should be tp+/att moonshade.
Brutal earring
Tantra tathlum :Thew bomblet
Epona's ring
raja ring
Thaumas kecks :if you dont have anything better.
Thaumas nail :kacura+1
All easy upgrades.

I didn't say all hard to get did I lol?

anyways we are going off topic here lets start again

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ok lets see whos the best Monk/War around here and bit of fun also :P
I would like ws set build posting and screenshot of the damage you done on a mob NM or what ever.

I go 1st :P

weapon skill: Victory Smite
Gears used for ws:
Verethragna
Tantra crown +2
Tantra cyclas +2
Atheling mantle
Justiciar's torque
Thaumas gloves
Black belt
Aseir ear pendant
Brutal earring
Tantra tathlum
Epona's ring
raja ring
Thaumas kecks
Thaumas nail
This all gives me stats
STR+63
DEC+27
VIT+24
AGI+31
MND+14



doing 7k with the ws build there anyone know better ws build?
Sorry didn't know you where slow. I quoted your gear list then added cheap upgrades next to them..
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By Cerberus.Masterdarkjedi 2013-04-24 03:53:25
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how cheap can you go tho? lol sorry someone cast slow 2 on me...
I'm looking at Matanca Harness for body ws:P
Light belt
gorget
Rancor Collar
will test the above out ^^

Keep them coming guys and thank you to those that helped, Stalkster i don't mind the cheap and expensive gear :~
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By itchi508 2013-04-24 04:43:40
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Matanca harness is good peace if you cant get your hands on toci.
but that harness may take longer to get than toci, even w/ lucky rare drop you need lucky lot, Youl see more Tessera saio's than Matanca harnesses.
Thats a rare body that most people are to lazy to spam for, and it takes 25 pheromone sacks to build the KIs to even enter for a chance.
(1 sack every 20hours, 8 tags per week) so your looking at about 1 fight every 21 days, unless you buy KIs wich no one will do.

Thurandaut is easy as hell to get if you have the expansion and a decent peace if your lacking a WS body otherwise buy pulse pulse for a toci.
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By Cerberus.Stalkster 2013-04-24 19:38:58
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Usu+1 body is also a solid option, for impetus down.