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 Shiva.Flionheart
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-15 17:22:13
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Play which job you want, *** what anyone else says.

As long as you're not effecting them in a negative way then more power to you.

But conversely, they also don't have to add you to a pt if they don't like what job you're playing.

This is a game after all.
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2010-04-15 17:27:35
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By Odin.Kalico 2010-04-15 17:28:57
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Not a contradiction because BLU requires at least as much support to accomplish said roles and doesn't maintain simultaneous sufficiency and superiority in any combination of archtypes.

Don't take this the wrong way but if you feel blu is inferior compared to most other jobs and all the other stuff you guys were advocating in previous post... why is this your only 75 shouldn't an elitist like yourself want a efficent job,... ***bro how are you ever going to do EG and get gear because according to you guys Blu is a waste of prty slot and doesn't belong in EG....8D lol
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-15 17:30:29
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Play which job you want, *** what anyone else says.

As long as you're not effecting them in a negative way then more power to you.

But conversely, they also don't have to add you to a pt if they don't like what job you're playing.

This is a game after all.
I don't think anyone said NOT to play blu. We were just saying it's never the most efficient. There's a difference.

"Hey blu is the best at this"
"No it's not"
"But i love playing blu"
"Do what you want, but that doesn't make it the most efficient"
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By Odin.Kalico 2010-04-15 17:37:04
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Play which job you want, *** what anyone else says. As long as you're not effecting them in a negative way then more power to you. But conversely, they also don't have to add you to a pt if they don't like what job you're playing. This is a game after all.
I don't think anyone said NOT to play blu. We were just saying it's never the most efficient. There's a difference. "Hey blu is the best at this" "No it's not" "But i love playing blu" "Do what you want, but that doesn't make it the most efficient"

No TW thats not what you guys were saying for a fact Thornyy said that Blu is a waste of a prty slot and does not belong in EG....they rest of you guys supported this notion. If it was said that Blu is not the most efficent compared to specialized jobs but can do a hell of a job compared to them there would of been no argument but thats not what you guys were saying lets keep it 100 8D
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By Valefor.Grozny 2010-04-15 17:38:21
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Blu is the most efficient use of my time in game. Blu is by far the most fun job for me to play. Blu is better than any other job when it comes to my playtime and my enjoyment. No math can disprove this.

Let this thread die already.

Jack of all trades, master of none. I think that most blus can agree that this is a major reason on why you enjoy playing blu. Other jobs specialize in their field, and that is why they are better than us in their main purpose. We can certainly put up a good fight in the DD department, but other jobs that are designed to do only that, will excel at it. Just accept it.
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By Leviathan.Thornyy 2010-04-15 17:42:41
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RDM's Bind is a base 40 second recast, while BLU's are base 24 and 15 second recast, and -CAN OVERWRITE THEMSELVES-. Those facts alone takes a lot of danger out of the BLU/NIN Regurgitation/Blastbomb soloing. They can get 20%+ Fast Cast, 21-25% haste in gear, and 10% haste spell, -100% spell interrupt rate. Can have massive Defense, same -pdt as RDM, and stun. Oh, a gimp SS too I guess.
BLU's stoneskin is much weaker, BLU doesn't have convert, BLU has no Bio III(which is actually a pretty good defensive tool, 15% attack makes more of a difference than you'd think when you calculate it), insert other meaningless facts. If you honestly think BLU is better for bind soloing than RDM, I don't know what to tell you. Aside from that, many modern RDM solos are straight tanking anyway.
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And no I wasn't blindly insulting you, that's just years of observation from being on the same server as the second biggest douche in FFXI. Hell it's a break down of just about every one of your troll posts too.
Call me a douche all you want, it doesn't matter if it's accurate or not, it's irrelevant to your main point and just plain wrong.
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RDM RDM BLU for temp. The BLU can either be /NIN and keep his own damn self alive or can /THF and just zombie it. Either way, it can put out more damage than a SMN as long as your RDMs don't suck completely. Yeah I know, it requires some change from your normal strategy, it must suck completely then though right?
I'd be pretty shocked if BLU could sufficiently outdamage a properly geared SMN in trio temperance, seeing as they have significantly less hmp, no way to aspir mp there, shitty mp pool, and will have to cure themselves whenever they get hate. Additionally, they'll need to bleed out CE until it goes back to the RDMs, blowing even more MP.
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And no FFXI isn't hard, but not everyone knows game mechanics as well as you or me, not everyone has spellcast and other tools/apps, hell some people can't even *** spell/read/add right and still play this game. I accept anyone that tries to learn into my ls, regardless of their intelligence/experience/knowledge so my strategies are all about simplicity and shaving numbers off. So my ls takes 4-6 to JoFaith or Ix'DRG instead of 2-3, at least we don't *** lose it. It's also faster.
It's cute that you think you know game mechanics anywhere near as well as I do. Seriously, very cute. Have you seen what half of your ls members are wearing? Avantgarde is nothing more than a collection of gimps led by a gimp who thinks he's competent.
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Nyzul can be all about luck and who you're with. Those two things pretty much matter more than anything.
Who you're with? Sure. Luck? No. There isn't a combination of 5 floors that can't be cleared by a competent group paying attention with 100% success. 10 floors require a bit of luck, but I'd say any good group can consistantly do 7-8 regardless of what objective/mobs load.

Troll posts? Sorry, some people are capable of having a discussion without making it personal. Clearly my opinion regarding BLU isn't that farfetched, considering it's shared by many other people here.

@Sindri:
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BLU can come near, match or even excel the damage of Samurai, and requires little support from other players. Can also deal the damage while weakened, and toss emergency cures, stuns, flashes and in areas with high aggro even sleeps into the mix. By definition very efficient.
BLU can't match SAM's damage though. Your screenshots using 2hr barely match the DPS sam does in that timeframe, and SAM requires no MP to consistantly do that damage. Look at it this way, BLUs wouldn't need much support(I assume just minnes) for spamming SA, so a party of 5 BLU with a BRD would do roughly 10k damage per minute on DI or Khim. SAM does need more support to perform optimally, but 3 SAM + BRD COR RDM will be at 450 delay * .3 * 5 = 675 / 60 = 11.25 secs for 100 tp = 5 ws at 800 damage per minute = 12k from 3 SAMs before factoring in meditate. The only time BLU is more efficient is if you cannot spare the buffers, which in itself is inefficient.
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SAM tank is largely luck based because if your Third Eye is going down quick seeing as the likely-hood your evading or parrying on HNM is low, so are you. You'll require more mages to be curing you, and cannot take the hits. By definition inefficient, seeing as PLD can keep hate, and stay alive better, while simultaneously doing sufficient damage.
PLD tank is largely luck based because if your shield doesn't proc you're taking more damage than a samurai would, as they have access to more PDT gear and any HNM will be attack-capped on both jobs. You'll be able to cure yourself and compensate for taking more damage, but be putting out less damage. By definition inefficient, seeing as SAM can stay alive, and keep hate better, while simultaneously doing more damage.

See, I can point out abstraction too. The reality is that the only relevant differents for tanking HNM are hate generation(Favors sam on weak things) and one shot risk(favors SAM again, as they have access to more PDT gear). Sure, PLD has sentinel.. but how the hell does that come anywhere near seigan third eye? It's practically a third utsusemi spell. Primary damage mitigation is the same for both: Utsusemi.
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By Odin.Kalico 2010-04-15 17:51:22
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^^ LMAO ^^

Funny how some one can know so much but still be a fukin looser lmao Thornyy I'd guess i'd be an eletist *** too if my life just consisted of ffxi GTFO your mom's basement and get a piece of pussy for once in your life its ok if you have to pay for it its you so its understandable we won't judge you... go ahead bro it will make you a better man LMAO.....
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-15 17:57:00
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lol rl card.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-04-15 18:01:42
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Odin.Kalico said:
^^ LMAO ^^

Funny how some one can know so much but still be a fukin looser lmao Thornyy I'd guess i'd be an eletist *** too if my life just consisted of ffxi GTFO your mom's basement and get a piece of pussy for once in your life its ok if you have to pay for it its you so its understandable we won't judge you... go ahead bro it will make you a better man LMAO.....


Real Life card. That's cute, really. He has a girlfriend (o~hi thar) he goes to school, we play FFXI a lot because.... lol college, we have the free time to do it, and the job market is rough.

Anyway, who here is the loser, really? :s
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-04-15 18:02:14
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Hoo boy, another one of these eh?

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By Odin.Kalico 2010-04-15 18:04:24
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Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
^^ LMAO ^^ Funny how some one can know so much but still be a fukin looser lmao Thornyy I'd guess i'd be an eletist *** too if my life just consisted of ffxi GTFO your mom's basement and get a piece of pussy for once in your life its ok if you have to pay for it its you so its understandable we won't judge you... go ahead bro it will make you a better man LMAO.....
Real Life card. That's cute, really. He has a girlfriend (o~hi thar) he goes to school, we play FFXI a lot because.... lol college, we have the free time to do it, and the job market is rough. Anyway, who here is the loser, really? :s

Get his *** out your mouth for once please... can't a brother have a moment..for god sakes stop hating 8D
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-04-15 18:05:58
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Odin.Kalico said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
^^ LMAO ^^ Funny how some one can know so much but still be a fukin looser lmao Thornyy I'd guess i'd be an eletist *** too if my life just consisted of ffxi GTFO your mom's basement and get a piece of pussy for once in your life its ok if you have to pay for it its you so its understandable we won't judge you... go ahead bro it will make you a better man LMAO.....
Real Life card. That's cute, really. He has a girlfriend (o~hi thar) he goes to school, we play FFXI a lot because.... lol college, we have the free time to do it, and the job market is rough. Anyway, who here is the loser, really? :s

Get his *** out your mouth for once please... can't a brother have a moment..for god sakes stop hating 8D

I'll suck his *** all I want, thank you very much.
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-04-15 18:06:57
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That's hot.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-15 18:07:42
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Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
^^ LMAO ^^ Funny how some one can know so much but still be a fukin looser lmao Thornyy I'd guess i'd be an eletist *** too if my life just consisted of ffxi GTFO your mom's basement and get a piece of pussy for once in your life its ok if you have to pay for it its you so its understandable we won't judge you... go ahead bro it will make you a better man LMAO.....
Real Life card. That's cute, really. He has a girlfriend (o~hi thar) he goes to school, we play FFXI a lot because.... lol college, we have the free time to do it, and the job market is rough. Anyway, who here is the loser, really? :s

Get his *** out your mouth for once please... can't a brother have a moment..for god sakes stop hating 8D

I'll suck his *** all I want, thank you very much.

Can I join in?
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-04-15 18:08:24
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But it was you that gave the good bjs, right Flion? That one guy said so, lawl.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-04-15 18:08:39
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<__<

(What have I started.)
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-15 18:08:52
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Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
^^ LMAO ^^ Funny how some one can know so much but still be a fukin looser lmao Thornyy I'd guess i'd be an eletist *** too if my life just consisted of ffxi GTFO your mom's basement and get a piece of pussy for once in your life its ok if you have to pay for it its you so its understandable we won't judge you... go ahead bro it will make you a better man LMAO.....
Real Life card. That's cute, really. He has a girlfriend (o~hi thar) he goes to school, we play FFXI a lot because.... lol college, we have the free time to do it, and the job market is rough. Anyway, who here is the loser, really? :s

Get his *** out your mouth for once please... can't a brother have a moment..for god sakes stop hating 8D

I'll suck his *** all I want, thank you very much.
No, it's a trap!
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By Odin.Kalico 2010-04-15 18:12:00
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Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
^^ LMAO ^^ Funny how some one can know so much but still be a fukin looser lmao Thornyy I'd guess i'd be an eletist *** too if my life just consisted of ffxi GTFO your mom's basement and get a piece of pussy for once in your life its ok if you have to pay for it its you so its understandable we won't judge you... go ahead bro it will make you a better man LMAO.....
Real Life card. That's cute, really. He has a girlfriend (o~hi thar) he goes to school, we play FFXI a lot because.... lol college, we have the free time to do it, and the job market is rough. Anyway, who here is the loser, really? :s
Get his *** out your mouth for once please... can't a brother have a moment..for god sakes stop hating 8D
I'll suck his *** all I want, thank you very much.

Yeah so you say for all we know you could be a 40 year old bald dude who comes over on the weekends to smoke meth play FFxi and blow each other 8O

fixed lol
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-15 18:12:17
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Shiva.Weewoo said:
But it was you that gave the good bjs, right Flion? That one guy said so, lawl.

Yar, I give awesome ***, and I (Sweat his nuts)???
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-04-15 18:13:32
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I'd rather not have to post pictures, but I'm pretty sure I'm hotter than anything you could get....

That being said I get to suck his *** this summer, awesome right? I'm totally excited.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-15 18:14:13
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Odin.Kalico said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
^^ LMAO ^^ Funny how some one can know so much but still be a fukin looser lmao Thornyy I'd guess i'd be an eletist *** too if my life just consisted of ffxi GTFO your mom's basement and get a piece of pussy for once in your life its ok if you have to pay for it its you so its understandable we won't judge you... go ahead bro it will make you a better man LMAO.....
Real Life card. That's cute, really. He has a girlfriend (o~hi thar) he goes to school, we play FFXI a lot because.... lol college, we have the free time to do it, and the job market is rough. Anyway, who here is the loser, really? :s
Get his *** out your mouth for once please... can't a brother have a moment..for god sakes stop hating 8D
I'll suck his *** all I want, thank you very much.

Lol when
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Odin.Kalico said:
^^ LMAO ^^ Funny how some one can know so much but still be a fukin looser lmao Thornyy I'd guess i'd be an eletist *** too if my life just consisted of ffxi GTFO your mom's basement and get a piece of pussy for once in your life its ok if you have to pay for it its you so its understandable we won't judge you... go ahead bro it will make you a better man LMAO.....
Real Life card. That's cute, really. He has a girlfriend (o~hi thar) he goes to school, we play FFXI a lot because.... lol college, we have the free time to do it, and the job market is rough. Anyway, who here is the loser, really? :s
Get his *** out your mouth for once please... can't a brother have a moment..for god sakes stop hating 8D
I'll suck his *** all I want, thank you very much.

Yeah so you say for all we know you could be a 40 year old bald dude who comes over on the weekends to smoke meth play FFxi and blow each other 8O
Hey hey hey, Ninian is awesome. You have a higher chance of being a 40 year old bald man giving swappy *** with your gay friends.

She needs no such insults, tyvm :)
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-04-15 18:16:36
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
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But it was you that gave the good bjs, right Flion? That one guy said so, lawl.

Yar, I give awesome ***, and I (Sweat his nuts)???

What does that even mean?
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By Odin.Kalico 2010-04-15 18:18:21
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Never that TW I get mad pussy bro i'm a guy from the NY who works full time and has his own spot drives and i stay in the gym so pussy(good pussy that is) is never a problem for me....lol
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-04-15 18:19:37
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Dude, you act like a 12 year old and have this corny, teenage angst, pseudo-Sephiroth, Naruto avatar. Need more be said?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-15 18:20:03
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Shiva.Weewoo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Shiva.Weewoo said:
But it was you that gave the good bjs, right Flion? That one guy said so, lawl.

Yar, I give awesome ***, and I (Sweat his nuts)???

What does that even mean?

I wish I did, if you're in game atm look him up, he's refusing to party without 2 brd's.

/sea all herofrozen
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-04-15 18:21:01
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That guy is pretty lulzy from what I've heard. Half of me wants to run into him so I can rofl in rl, and the other half doesn't wanna bother with the facepalms that are sure to ensue.
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By Odin.Kalico 2010-04-15 18:23:33
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Na sorry i'm just like to be sarcastic and i'm into anime I have a media degree and into the creative ***cs4 ect.. I jump on these forums when i'm at work like now to kill time i got about another 45 min left till I close up...I'm the boss so i can do that lol
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-15 18:24:43
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Odin.Kalico said:
Never that TW I get mad pussy bro i'm a guy from the NY who works full time and has his own spot drives and i stay in the gym so pussy(good pussy that is) is never a problem for me....lol
Sure you do
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-04-15 18:24:45
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Odin.Kalico said:
Na sorry i'm just like to be sarcastic and i'm into anime I have a media degree and into the creative ***cs4 ect.. I jump on these forums when i'm at work like now to kill time i got about another 45 min left till I close up...I'm the boss so i can do that lol

Orly?

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