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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-18 19:31:37
Ok, I'm curious about Lust Dagger. Currently, I use Hornetneedle/Calveley's, and will be swapping to Corsair's/Hornetneedle at 50. But I'm wondering if I should skil Corsair's and go Lust/Hornetneedle because without food I have +26 DEX and only +14 AGI.
Any advice from veteran THFs?
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By Phoenix.Wraithen 2010-03-18 20:38:13
might be worth a shot, would add 6 (7 agi - 1 dex) to your base damage on a SATA. You would get better non-ws damage with the corsair's, but non ws damage is only for building tp as a thf for the most part. Now as far a a SATA WS, you would have to try em out based on mobs def. Cors wins hands down for non-TA WS tho..
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-18 20:48:36
Hmm, you know I'm tight with gil..
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-03-18 20:57:48
This sucks :/
I thought this thread was going to be about this guy.
Also, this thread is now about that guy ^
He's pretty cool guy, tries to destroy the world and doesn't afraid of anything.
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By Phoenix.Wraithen 2010-03-18 21:06:10
think i would go cor then, overall i think you would average more damage.. you should be able to WS once and get back to around 100tp before SA and TA recast is able.. so basically no AGI modifier on 50% of your WSs. FYI: VB has a tp mod of 1.0 across the board, so use it at 100%, don't store tp
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By Asura.Shamaya 2010-03-18 21:29:46
That was such a great anime but I was disappointed with the end.
I say go with Corsair's.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-18 21:33:18
Peronally I don't like it. Agi will only add 7 to base dmg on TA. Which wouldn't be too bad if it wasn't for the fact it was only applied to the first hit on a ws and after ftp. While the lose of str and dex will lower the dmg on all hits of the ws. And the str will lower your dmg by a bit on your dps. Once you get DE even your TA ws will be about the same as if you had offhanded a bone knife instead. But with much lower DOT and lower SA etc...
By Antonaki 2010-03-18 22:33:12
Go with cors/horn, unless you have a serious AGI build you wont notice that much difference in your TA.
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-03-18 22:34:51
Antonaki said: Go with cors/horn, unless you have a serious AGI build you wont notice that much difference in your TA.
this
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-18 22:36:15
Yeah, I'm just gonna go with Cor/Hornet.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-18 22:52:26
Antonaki said: Go with cors/horn, unless you have a serious AGI build you wont notice that much difference in your TA. Actually no matter how much agi you have +x amount agi will add the same amount of dmg. But by having a higher amount of agi and making your dmg more it would make the %change in dmg for a certain amount less.
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By Asura.Shamaya 2010-03-19 08:14:35
Quote: Actually no matter how much agi you have +x amount agi will add the same amount of dmg. But by having a higher amount of agi and making your dmg more it would make the %change in dmg for a certain amount less. This.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-20 20:13:39
At 75, which is a better all-around combo, Azoth/Sirocco or Blau/Sirocco
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-03-20 20:18:33
Phoenix.Kojo said: At 75, which is a better all-around combo, Azoth/Sirocco or Blau/Sirocco Blau/Sirocco
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-20 20:19:05
Asura.Poupee said: Phoenix.Kojo said: At 75, which is a better all-around combo, Azoth/Sirocco or Blau/Sirocco Blau/Sirocco
Kk, that's what I'ma try for. >.>
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By Asura.Elvaton 2010-03-20 20:20:09
Asura.Poupee said: Phoenix.Kojo said: At 75, which is a better all-around combo, Azoth/Sirocco or Blau/Sirocco Blau/Sirocco you could use Azoth if were going for eva setup
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-20 20:23:09
Asura.Elvaton said: Asura.Poupee said: Phoenix.Kojo said: At 75, which is a better all-around combo, Azoth/Sirocco or Blau/Sirocco Blau/Sirocco you could use Azoth if were going for eva setup
Would the difference between Blau and Azoth make or break your WS dmg?
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By Asura.Elvaton 2010-03-20 20:27:19
Phoenix.Kojo said: Asura.Elvaton said: Asura.Poupee said: Phoenix.Kojo said: At 75, which is a better all-around combo, Azoth/Sirocco or Blau/Sirocco Blau/Sirocco you could use Azoth if were going for eva setup Would the difference between Blau and Azoth make or break your WS dmg? to lazy to look up stats atm but blau only does good dmg when you have 100% tp if you get more then you wont trigger latent effect which means less dmg
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-20 20:29:33
That effect is also active on WSs, IIRC.
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By Asura.Elvaton 2010-03-20 20:39:46
yea but only if your tp is at 100% any higher and it isnt in effect
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-20 20:41:36
Blau dolch
(Dagger) All Races
DMG: 26 Delay: 178
Latent effect: DMG: 33
Lv. 72 WAR / BLM / RDM / THF / PLD / DRK /
BST / BRD / RNG / SAM / NIN / DRG / SMN / SCH
Damage Per Second: 8.76 / 11.12
TP Per Hit: 4.9%
Latent effect
Active while TP < 100% (includes Weapon Skills).
Hidden Effects are also triggered under this latent.
Hidden Effects: Attack +16, Accuracy +5
I took this to mean it is active on WSs, too.
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By Asura.Elvaton 2010-03-20 20:44:33
i wish it worked that way
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-20 20:47:56
Then if it doesn't, then at 101%+ Blau doesn't do anything, which would make Blau completely useless unless you could WS at 100% exactly.
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By Asura.Elvaton 2010-03-20 20:50:11
yes but its good off hand and main handed with sirocco kukri its good
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By Phoenix.Haltro 2010-03-20 20:51:08
Kojo, the latent and hidden effects of Blau Dolch are active on WS's. It's the same as Onimaru, Maneater, and the other Latent weapons of that type.
Blau Dolch/Sirocco is beastly, and performs much better than Azoth/Sirocco.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-20 20:53:54
Phoenix.Haltro said: Kojo, the latent and hidden effects of Blau Dolch are active on WS's. It's the same as Onimaru, Maneater, and the other Latent weapons of that type. Blau Dolch/Sirocco is beastly, and performs much better than Azoth/Sirocco.
Sup, Halt? Yeah, someone said Azoth/Sirocco was better, I wanted more opinions. So the latent does activate on any WS regardless of TP?
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By Phoenix.Haltro 2010-03-20 20:55:21
Yes, it is always active on WS's. Whether it be 100% or 300%, and Blau/Sirocco will always outperform Azoth/Sirocco, the much lower delay and added effects create a huge gap in DPS.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-20 20:56:56
Thanks, that not only answers my question, but told me what I wanted to hear. lol
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By Phoenix.Haltro 2010-03-20 20:58:59
The DPS difference grows even larger if you're going for a haste build. (which you should)
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-20 21:00:46
Phoenix.Haltro said: The DPS difference grows even larger if you're going for a haste build. (which you should)
Got Walahra Turban, going for Rapparee Harness soon, I hope and need to get a Swift belt.
Ok, I'm curious about Lust Dagger. Currently, I use Hornetneedle/Calveley's, and will be swapping to Corsair's/Hornetneedle at 50. But I'm wondering if I should skil Corsair's and go Lust/Hornetneedle because without food I have +26 DEX and only +14 AGI.
Any advice from veteran THFs?
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