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FFXI LGBT Community, who are you?
Fenrir.Lilaan
Server: Fenrir
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Posts: 343
By Fenrir.Lilaan 2010-04-09 12:52:57
But the American Apparel is close to it as well, and they have nice shirts for cheap :)
Asura.Citag
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5078
By Asura.Citag 2010-04-09 12:54:49
Fenrir.Lilaan said: But the American Apparel is close to it as well, and they have nice shirts for cheap :)
Ugh I hate you! We dont have american apparel anywhere near me. :( I love their t's.
Phoenix.Sergee
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 891
By Phoenix.Sergee 2010-04-09 13:48:39
/wave, just got back from getting a new state I.D. [I wish they would let me take my I.D. picture like this LMFAO], how is everyone today? :]
-even though I kinda look cross eyed lolol.. and the angle of my head is a bit off.. :P
Fenrir.Lilaan
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 343
By Fenrir.Lilaan 2010-04-09 14:06:04
Asura.Citag said: Fenrir.Lilaan said: But the American Apparel is close to it as well, and they have nice shirts for cheap :)
Ugh I hate you! We dont have american apparel anywhere near me. :( I love their t's.
Heh. the only thing I don't like about their t's are that the white material they use is always see through, you have to buy a white shirt to wear underneath :(
Alexander.Carrelo
Server: Alexander
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3706
By Alexander.Carrelo 2010-04-09 14:06:37
Hi guys, sorry for not posting at all this week. I've had... a lot going on lol
But quick, someone fetch the rainbow confetti !! ^^ I came out to my friends this week. *deep sigh of relief* x_x
Asura.Citag
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5078
By Asura.Citag 2010-04-09 14:07:11
Alexander.Carrelo said: Hi guys, sorry for not posting at all this week. I've had... a lot going on lol But quick, someone fetch the rainbow confetti !! ^^ I came out to my friends this week. *deep sigh of relief* x_x
Sweet, congrats! How did it go?
Phoenix.Ailoki
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 890
By Phoenix.Ailoki 2010-04-09 14:10:20
Alexander.Carrelo said: Hi guys, sorry for not posting at all this week. I've had... a lot going on lol
But quick, someone fetch the rainbow confetti !! ^^ I came out to my friends this week. *deep sigh of relief* x_x
Good for you~ They'll be there for support if you need it when you tell your dad and brother. I'm happy for you.
Slightly harder to do it as you get older, imo. But, what better time than now~?
Bismarck.Denna
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 346
By Bismarck.Denna 2010-04-09 14:11:20
Alexander.Carrelo said: Hi guys, sorry for not posting at all this week. I've had... a lot going on lol
But quick, someone fetch the rainbow confetti !! ^^ I came out to my friends this week. *deep sigh of relief* x_x
wooooooooo! 2010 - year of risks! lol
Alexander.Carrelo
Server: Alexander
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3706
By Alexander.Carrelo 2010-04-09 14:12:58
Asura.Citag said: Sweet, congrats! How did it go?
Thanks.^^ Pretty well lol, my 2 gay friends didn't seem impressed. XD My best friend was like 'lol it's ok, I knew.' And my other good friend was surprised. XD She was like "真的啊!!" ("Really?!?") lol
Alexander.Carrelo
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2010-04-09 14:14:57
Phoenix.Ailoki said: But, what better time than now~? ^^ I certainly waited long enough. XD
Bismarck.Denna said: wooooooooo! 2010 - year of risks! lol And rewards I hope. :D
Fenrir.Lilaan
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 343
By Fenrir.Lilaan 2010-04-09 14:16:47
I had it easy in one way, but hella hard in the other. My entire Mom's side of the family were hair dressers and *** hags, so telling them was no problem. However my dad was raised homophobic and racist. Needless to say I am referred to as the "*** son" and we barely speak. My brother had the glory of telling him for me, which I was mad about to begin with, but happy about because I didn't get to see how pissed he was. Coming out isn't easy, but I couldn't ever imagine my life being closeted again. I came out when I was 14.
Phoenix.Ailoki
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 890
By Phoenix.Ailoki 2010-04-09 14:22:46
Fenrir.Lilaan said: I had it easy in one way, but hella hard in the other. My entire Mom's side of the family were hair dressers and *** hags, so telling them was no problem. However my dad was raised homophobic and racist. Needless to say I am referred to as the "*** son" and we barely speak. My brother had the glory of telling him for me, which I was mad about to begin with, but happy about because I didn't get to see how pissed he was. Coming out isn't easy, but I couldn't ever imagine my life being closeted again. I came out when I was 14.
Slightly similar experience. My mom has 2 gay brothers out of a family of... A grandmother, 5 or 6 brothers and 3 sisters I think. And like... 8 cousins... Yeah, grandma got married to my grandpa when they both had children beforehand. Big big family. Anyway, 2 gay brothers both which have AIDs. One is no longer with us but, when they came out, my grandmother and grandfather kicked them out of the house. So, in 2010, I only let a few of my relatives from that side of the family see my Facebook and know that. Not insecure, just don't think they deserve to know because, god help me if they treat me like they treated their brothers/sons. Hell will walk these grounds. ^^b
My dad's side is very religious. Very small family. Consists of grandfather, 2 aunts, and a cousin. Haha. Will I ever tell them? Who knows. Again, not insecurities, more or so... "I *really* don't want to hear you preach to me unless you want to get punched in the throat." Lmfao!
My tolerance for bigotry and stupidity is extremely low.
Alexander.Carrelo
Server: Alexander
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3706
By Alexander.Carrelo 2010-04-09 14:27:45
Fenrir.Lilaan said: I had it easy in one way, but hella hard in the other. My entire Mom's side of the family were hair dressers and *** hags, so telling them was no problem. However my dad was raised homophobic and racist. Needless to say I am referred to as the "*** son" and we barely speak. My brother had the glory of telling him for me, which I was mad about to begin with, but happy about because I didn't get to see how pissed he was. Coming out isn't easy, but I couldn't ever imagine my life being closeted again. I came out when I was 14. I can't imagine experiencing that kind of rejection at 14... I'm really sorry. ; ;
Fenrir.Lilaan
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 343
By Fenrir.Lilaan 2010-04-09 14:38:57
Alexander.Carrelo said: Fenrir.Lilaan said: I had it easy in one way, but hella hard in the other. My entire Mom's side of the family were hair dressers and *** hags, so telling them was no problem. However my dad was raised homophobic and racist. Needless to say I am referred to as the "*** son" and we barely speak. My brother had the glory of telling him for me, which I was mad about to begin with, but happy about because I didn't get to see how pissed he was. Coming out isn't easy, but I couldn't ever imagine my life being closeted again. I came out when I was 14. I can't imagine experiencing that kind of rejection at 14... I'm really sorry. ; ;
It's nothing to be sorry about. It was a personal decision to come out when I did. It however had a big impact on my life and who I am today. Facing that kind of thing on an everyday bases breaks you inside for a while until it builds up to the point where you can block it out and grow from it. I have no issues of letting people know who I am, although I don't make myself a gay billboard. Ignorance is something that you just learn to overcome in time. I can't even remember the last time I was even made fun of for being gay, other than 10th grade when this fat kid called me a *** and tried to trip me and I broke his nose. If you see it as a weakness and are vulnerable, people tend to attack it, but if you show that it doesn't bother you, they leave you alone. Simple.
Phoenix.Ailoki
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 890
By Phoenix.Ailoki 2010-04-09 14:45:47
So, I'd like to address something to people in this thread.
It's been brought to my attention last night that there are some communication issues amongst us. In other words, people going unnoticed upon saying hello, or asking another person a question and it going unanswered for days upon days, or unanswered all together. I've also noticed cliques forming. This is an open minded, family thread. Not high school.
My concern is simply this : This thread was made for all of us to come together and talk with each other and find a 'sanctuary' of sorts to feel safe and comfortable to chat in.
I don't want to hear any of this, "I didn't notice" ***, because that's exactly what it is. ***. If you don't like someone, that's fine. I'm just tired of seeing person after person not being acknowledged in this thread when it was created for the sole purpose to make friends.
It takes 2 seconds to say Hello and be nice. Is that so much to ask of some of you?
And no. I'm not mad. I'm irritated.
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Sylph.Landyr
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 161
By Sylph.Landyr 2010-04-09 14:46:16
hi everyone. Been a while been really busy with work and stuff.
So congrats on coming out Carrelo. Glad to hear it was revived well by your friends.
Lilaan, I have to admit I like the image of the guy getting his asskicked. Have to admit wanted to do that many of times growing up just never had the courage to get into a fight.
Other than that hows everyone doing?
Asura.Citag
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5078
By Asura.Citag 2010-04-09 14:47:41
Lol this is the internet what do you expect?
Im not gonna say hello to every single person who comes on if I have other stuff going on.
Sorry, everything about what you just posted is ridiculous.
Phoenix.Ailoki
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 890
By Phoenix.Ailoki 2010-04-09 14:47:51
Sylph.Landyr said: hi everyone. Been a while been really busy with work and stuff.
So congrats on coming out Carrelo. Glad to hear it was revived well by your friends.
Lilaan, I have to admit I like the image of the guy getting his asskicked. Have to admit wanted to do that many of times growing up just never had the courage to get into a fight.
Other than that hows everyone doing?
/wave
Augh, what I wouldn't give to have a job right now.
Phoenix.Ailoki
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 890
By Phoenix.Ailoki 2010-04-09 14:51:32
Asura.Citag said: Lol this is the internet what do you expect?
Im not gonna say hello to every single person who comes on if I have other stuff going on.
Sorry, everything about what you just posted is ridiculous.
Figure someone might as well come out and say something since the others won't.
I'm not asking you to say hello to every single person, nor am I even talking about you.
It's something I've noticed. People will come in, say hi, and post for 3 or 4 pages about whatever it is we're talking about at the time, and still go unnoticed. It's a little disheartening.
Edit : I guess this is what happens when you get a bunch of gay guys together, eh? Lol Had a LBGT LS on Asura and that went to ***real damn quick from all the drama.
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Alexander.Carrelo
Server: Alexander
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3706
By Alexander.Carrelo 2010-04-09 14:52:26
Fenrir.Lilaan said: It's nothing to be sorry about. It was a personal decision to come out when I did. It however had a big impact on my life and who I am today. Facing that kind of thing on an everyday bases breaks you inside for a while until it builds up to the point where you can block it out and grow from it. I have no issues of letting people know who I am, although I don't make myself a gay billboard. Ignorance is something that you just learn to overcome in time. I can't even remember the last time I was even made fun of for being gay, other than 10th grade when this fat kid called me a *** and tried to trip me and I broke his nose. If you see it as a weakness and are vulnerable, people tend to attack it, but if you show that it doesn't bother you, they leave you alone. Simple. I meant I'm sorry your father removed himself from your life. :/ Also lol at beating up the bully. XD
As for the vulnerability thing, that's a good part of the reason I waited so long to come out. Growing up, most kids are afraid of things like the dark or of monsters under the bed. Not me. I was always afraid of other people, because every day I saw how horribly they treated each other. I'm almost 20 now and have only recently risen above this fear - it was finally time.^^
Asura.Citag
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Posts: 5078
By Asura.Citag 2010-04-09 14:55:58
Phoenix.Ailoki said: Asura.Citag said: Lol this is the internet what do you expect? Im not gonna say hello to every single person who comes on if I have other stuff going on. Sorry, everything about what you just posted is ridiculous. Figure someone might as well come out and say something since the others won't. I'm not asking you to say hello to every single person, nor am I even talking about you. It's something I've noticed. People will come in, say hi, and post for 3 or 4 pages about whatever it is we're talking about at the time, and still go unnoticed. It's a little disheartening. Edit : I guess this is what happens when you get a bunch of gay guys together, eh? Lol Had a LBGT LS on Asura and that went to ***real damn quick from all the drama.
It has nothing to do with having all gay guys in here. Im always in linkshell: ni and there have been several times when myself or other go without being acknowlegded. If anyone is gonna get but hurt about something like that, they may as well not post here.
If people have problems, you need to let them speak up for themselves. From the people I've met her, I cant think of one person who would seem too shy to speak up. So Im confused about who youre even talking about.
Alexander.Carrelo
Server: Alexander
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Posts: 3706
By Alexander.Carrelo 2010-04-09 14:58:48
Phoenix.Ailoki said: It's something I've noticed. People will come in, say hi, and post for 3 or 4 pages about whatever it is we're talking about at the time, and still go unnoticed. It's a little disheartening.
Edit : I guess this is what happens when you get a bunch of gay guys together, eh? Lol Had a LBGT LS on Asura and that went to ***real damn quick from all the drama.
To be honest I've kind of noticed this too.^^; I always try to greet the new posters so that they feel acknowledged, but I've been kind of occupied this week. XD
That being said, I feel that this is like any other social situation. Newcomers may be nervous or have a slow start with the group, but it's up to them to make themselves noticed. I was posting in here awhile before I felt like anyone was actually reading what I typed. XD
Another thing to note is that sometimes questions or comments are replied to via the PM system.
Asura.Citag
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5078
By Asura.Citag 2010-04-09 15:03:46
Im curious who it is you're talking about. I really cant think of anyone, I'm sure I've seen everyone respond to each other.
Sylph.Landyr
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 161
By Sylph.Landyr 2010-04-09 15:05:24
Alexander.Carrelo said: Fenrir.Lilaan said: It's nothing to be sorry about. It was a personal decision to come out when I did. It however had a big impact on my life and who I am today. Facing that kind of thing on an everyday bases breaks you inside for a while until it builds up to the point where you can block it out and grow from it. I have no issues of letting people know who I am, although I don't make myself a gay billboard. Ignorance is something that you just learn to overcome in time. I can't even remember the last time I was even made fun of for being gay, other than 10th grade when this fat kid called me a *** and tried to trip me and I broke his nose. If you see it as a weakness and are vulnerable, people tend to attack it, but if you show that it doesn't bother you, they leave you alone. Simple. I meant I'm sorry your father removed himself from your life. :/ Also lol at beating up the bully. XD
As for the vulnerability thing, that's a good part of the reason I waited so long to come out. Growing up, most kids are afraid of things like the dark or of monsters under the bed. Not me. I was always afraid of other people, because every day I saw how horribly they treated each other. I'm almost 20 now and have only recently risen above this fear - it was finally time.^^ well Carr congrats on conquering your fears. It take some people much longer than 20 years to do it. So go you. Personally I didn't come out till I was 19 and I knew that if I got kicked out I could take care of myself. Also I knew I had some good friends there to help me. Funny thing is I came out at work first. I don't know why but it just seems funny to me that that's the place I decided to come out at first. Of course it was a bit of a slip of the tongue. lol. I guess I got lucky because everyone was real cool about it.
Phoenix.Ailoki
Server: Phoenix
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By Phoenix.Ailoki 2010-04-09 15:06:25
Asura.Citag said: It has nothing to do with having all gay guys in here. Im always in linkshell: ni and there have been several times when myself or other go without being acknowlegded. If anyone is gonna get but hurt about something like that, they may as well not post here.
If people have problems, you need to let them speak up for themselves. From the people I've met her, I cant think of one person who would seem too shy to speak up. So Im confused about who youre even talking about.
Think about it, though. How many people post in here regularly compared to Linkshell: Ni? Slightly unfair comparison there, don't you think? Lol
Sorry. It's what I get for being in Peer Mediation for 4 years. It's nearly like second hand to me to be one's voice when they can't find it in themselves to speak up.
It just worries me that when people come here to have fun and talk to everyone, they end up 'sitting in the corner.'
Alexander.Carrelo said: To be honest I've kind of noticed this too.^^; I always try to greet the new posters so that they feel acknowledged, but I've been kind of occupied this week. XD
That being said, I feel that this is like any other social situation. Newcomers may be nervous or have a slow start with the group, but it's up to them to make themselves noticed. I was posting in here awhile before I felt like anyone was actually reading what I typed. XD
Another thing to note is that sometimes questions or comments are replied to via the PM system.
You have a life-altering situation at hand right now. Lol
Who's to say they haven't tried, though? I'll admit, there were a few times where I quoted someone multiple times or said Hi and didn't get a reply for 6 or 7 pages.
The PM system is broken at the moment, I think. Doesn't say you have a new PM when you do. Rofl
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Asura.Citag
Server: Asura
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Posts: 5078
By Asura.Citag 2010-04-09 15:06:34
Sylph.Landyr said: I guess I got lucky because everyone was real cool about it.
Same with me. Half my family is mormon too, I was sure I was gonna get sent away to some sort of correctional facility.
Alexander.Carrelo
Server: Alexander
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2010-04-09 15:08:00
D: ! I thought they fixed PMs lol !
Phoenix.Ailoki
Server: Phoenix
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Posts: 890
By Phoenix.Ailoki 2010-04-09 15:08:53
Asura.Citag said: Sylph.Landyr said: I guess I got lucky because everyone was real cool about it.
Same with me. Half my family is mormon too, I was sure I was gonna get sent away to some sort of correctional facility.
I had to go to Christian counseling. -_- Lmfao
Every time I told them the same thing : "Save your money."
Sylph.Landyr
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 161
By Sylph.Landyr 2010-04-09 15:11:59
I have to admit I feel really bad for people that have to go through that stuff. I mean getting kicked out of ones house is bad enough but then to go and try and get re-programed to be what your family wants rather than loving you for who you are. It just gets to me.
Phoenix.Ailoki
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 890
By Phoenix.Ailoki 2010-04-09 15:17:47
Sylph.Landyr said: I have to admit I feel really bad for people that have to go through that stuff. I mean getting kicked out of ones house is bad enough but then to go and try and get re-programed to be what your family wants rather than loving you for who you are. It just gets to me.
It was so boring. My counselor wasn't even cute. Lmfao
Cit, check your PMs since the notifications are still down. Lol
Just curious to see how many of us actually play FFXI. **Now, let's try to keep this clean, please don't respond if you have nothing nice to say.** :] Don't be shy, speak up! :D
EDIT: You don't have to be gay to post in here, if you want to be apart of our conversations.. feel free to join in! Don't be shy, we don't bite.. well some of us do! :] Anyyyyyways~! This thread has become a home to many from the LGBT community & even some from the straight community who are open minded and enjoy chit-chatting with us, :] so let's keep it drama free, we deserve a place where we can be ourselves without being made fun of/harassed.
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