Seun said: »
The unfortunate consequence of promoting omen bodies to ITG... all of the rest of the escha gear came with it =/
Felgarr said: »
Venus Orb. ITG with 4 chests remaining. Zendik Robe. LAME
Yuuuuuuuuuup
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November 2025: Post your AMAN Trove Drops
Seun said: » Draylo said: » Dagon breastplate w/ impossible to gauge. They turning up them drop rates The unfortunate consequence of promoting omen bodies to ITG... all of the rest of the escha gear came with it =/ I've seen the following under Thud: Pursuer Cuffs/Doublet, Nibiru Harp, Anahera Sword (Ru'Aun AAEV)  So the lower tier escha pieces are still in Thud while the HELM drops in Reisenjima remain in Loud Thud?
Unless Felgar screwed up and the ITG was an item he already has and the Zendik came from LT.
It could be tied to content level though. AA's are CL140, WoC / Reisen HELM's are CL150   I get the ITG not loading, but I'm not really sure what rare item I have that loads in Thud that I would have across all my characters. edit: some HTMB loot is T, its probably something from there like Voltsurge.  I doubt Mes'yohi is ITG It would be very nice when you hit an ITG chest that, any gear from a thud/noise gets overwritten with an ITG slot.
From what I've seen in this thread is that Escha/low tier HTBF items are way overtuned to drop.. 2 LT and 2 ITG in one trove...
  Based on my observation that drops sort by tier rather than, say, equipment first or chest order, I've got the following:
ITG: Job crystals, hoxne, more to be discovered? LT: Non-hoxne trove exclusive drops, volte, Reisenjima 150 drops (Lembing, Shishio, Vedic coat, Suwaiyas observed), Selbina HTMB drops (Zantetsuken X observed), pulse cells (Pulse cell: Ay observed), moogle amplifiers for some unfathomable reason. Probably but I don't have personal data to reference, crep and null (since we know crep was LT before, though that's not saying it couldn't have been promoted to ITG. Someone with better luck needs to pin that down.) T: Older HTMB stuff (Donar gun, Chozoron coselete, Kyujutsugi, Phreatic axe, Vanir gun, Denouements, Staccato staff, Ma'iitsoh haube, Vanir boots, Lapidary tunic, Dynasty mitts observed), Escha Zi'tah stuff (Mijin, Sensui, Eschite helm, Naga samue, Despair mail, Eschite greaves, Vanya hood, Eschite cuisses, Nibiru lance observed), Vagary drops (Soulcleaver, tartarian chain, Acclimator, Feast hose observed) N: Mostly garbage. Ethereal squama, Celaeno's cloth, frayed sack (tau, fer, pul, H2, M2), worn sack (DD+2, LS+2, SO+2, SS+2, DS+2, DT+2, LO+2, LT+2, feels like I got the whole +2 set but no +1), sealord skin, Hahava's mail, Kaggen's cuticle, Penelope's cloth, Lustreless hide wing and scale boxes, Indi-gravity, Indi-vex, staghorn coral, kidney stone, belladonna sap, beryllium ore, exalted log, onyx, topaz, lapis lazuli, goshenite, light opal. Codex of etchings for some reason, I guess since it's a common mob drop and not a boss drop in Vagary? I also have a boulder box and a waktza crest which I didn't have before doing trove but failed to record. I've got one round missing a noise drop, one round missing a thud, and a round that's missing either a loud thud or a thud. I also have a boulder coffer, which dropped in that round with the missing LT or T drop; so, the coffer is definitely one of those, but I can't tell which. So, this is speculation, verification needed, but I'm inclined to believe I lost the loud thud, making the boulder coffer thud, which would mean the boulder box would need to be noise and the waktza crest thud. If anyone's interested in wading through my notes for further information... well, you probably won't find any because I keep terrible notes, but here they are anyway. cool that would mean that the creps cloak is still from a loud thud.
Hate to burst your bubble
Felgarr said: » Venus Orb, 8th chest: ITG, 2 Brown chests remaining. Me: Too chicken to go all the way so I opened the terminal coffer (thud)...and got a Crepuscular Helm. Rentwokay said: » Screenshot didn't work, but I have the log. I started with the front center chest and worked my way around clockwise. When there were only two chests left, the final one - immediately to the right of the first one I opened - turned prismatic. Quote: You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You feel like there's an impossible to gauge thud left to be made! You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You feel like there's an impossible to gauge thud left to be made! You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You feel like there's an impossible to gauge thud left to be made! You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You feel like there's an impossible to gauge thud left to be made! You hear an impossible to gauge thud of massive spoils! You hear an impossible to gauge thud of massive spoils! You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. Rentwokay gains 14580 capacity points. You find a crepuscular helm in the Terminal Coffer. Rentwokay obtains a crepuscular helm. You find a suit of tartarus platemail in the Terminal Coffer. Rentwokay obtains a suit of tartarus platemail. You find a Celaeno's cloth in the Terminal Coffer. Rentwokay obtains a Celaeno's cloth. You find a plate of Indi-Frailty in the Terminal Coffer. Rentwokay obtains a plate of Indi-Frailty. You find an Akvan's pennon in the Terminal Coffer. Rentwokay obtains an Akvan's pennon. You find a worn sack of duskslit stones +2 in the Terminal Coffer. Rentwokay obtains a worn sack of duskslit stones +2. You find a square of Penelope's cloth in the Terminal Coffer. Rentwokay obtains a square of Penelope's cloth. You find a plate of Indi-Gravity in the Terminal Coffer. Rentwokay obtains a plate of Indi-Gravity. You find an igneous barnacle in the Terminal Coffer. Rentwokay obtains an igneous barnacle. You find a worn sack of leafslit stones +2 in the Terminal Coffer. Rentwokay obtains a worn sack of leafslit stones +2. Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Its definitely not "all of the escha gear" No, it's "all the rest of the escha gear" meaning, everything else that is from omen/reisen that doesn't belong there. What pool did pulse weapons end up in? Pulse bodies? The point was just that a lot of items were pulled into the pool by association rather than because they were selected to be ITG worthy rewards. Pulse weapons are ITG, cells are in LT
No pulse bodies pulled yet Did 8 mars orbs and 1 venus (2 noise, mimic)
IT (rainbow chest @ spawn)  IT first chest  IT and LT  Full run, only LT - coffer had 28 Detritus in it  Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Pulse weapons are ITG, cells are in LT No pulse bodies pulled yet When you see one, you won't be surprised why it's there. Pulse bodies were in LT before soooooo i dont get your point. At the end of the day, pulse bodies fall under the ultra rare drop designation and are dumped in ITG.
 95% chance this is your confirmation. Box was N*7 T LT ITG. I know Vanya is T, so I'm missing either ITG or LT from that drop list, and I'm leaning towards ITG for the pulse body. Is it just my bad luck or is the upgrade rate of box 9 changed very negatively? Not that I have a lot of Venus Orb data before this patch, but these are my numbers
Prepatch: 3 gold, 13 rainbow Nov 2025 patch: 9 gold, 4 rainbow Sample size aside, thats quite the shift is it not? Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Is it just my bad luck or is the upgrade rate of box 9 changed very negatively? Not that I have a lot of Venus Orb data before this patch, but these are my numbers Prepatch: 3 gold, 13 rainbow Nov 2025 patch: 9 gold, 4 rainbow Sample size aside, thats quite the shift is it not? Anecdotally, I agree. The upgrade rate seems lower, but the occurrence of LTs on the floor does seems higher.
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I obviously have more experience in previous updates*, but even Venus orbs upgrade rate seems worse than mars orb used to be.
Old trove list that needed to be fixed, see here for updated version
Doesn't look exactly right to me, but again, a single month isn't enough for me to come to any solid conclusion about a complete loot table.
Asura.Malkavius said: » 2 LT and 2 ITG in one trove... So, this looks like ITG was on the floor (8th chest), the reward chest was a gold LT, and the Terminal coffer gave you a second ITG. Wow, I might have to keep doing Venus for 2x ITG chances. Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Adding to this and cleaning it up a bit: Fenrir.Zenion said: » ITG: Dyna-D synth mats (job crystals, Ratnaraj), hoxne accessories, Wyrm Ash, Orb of Radiance loot, Wyrm God loot, Tartarus Platemail, Pulse Weapons and Armor(?) LT: Non-hoxne trove drops, volte, Reisenjima HELM drops, Selbina HTMB drops , pulse cells , moogle amplifiers, Ra'Kaz Starstone, REMA stone Coffers, Omen Wave 2 drops and boss materials (Nusku Shield, Moonbow Leather, Hope Crystal) T: Older HTMB stuff , Escha Zi'tah stuff, Vagary drops (equipment and materials), Delve boss materials, Heroism Grand Coffer, S. Ast. Det. Gr. Co, Abdhaljs Seal, REMA stone box (seen pluton box), Large Lustreless X box (seen scale) N: Goldsmithing stones, Skirmish pouches (Snow/Leaf/DuskXXX +2, Horror+2), Reisenjima Stone Pouches (Fer, Tau, Pel), Geo scrolls, Voidwatch Synth mats incl Provenance (serica cloth, voidwrought plate, Sealord Skin, Ormolu Ingot, etc), Voidwalker Synth Mats (Pelt of Dawon, Befouled Silver, Kidney Stone, etc), Codex of Etchings, HTMB synth mats (Hepa Ore, Sif's Lock, etc but can someone confirm Wyrm Blood?), Lustreless X box Anything seems out of place or wrong? Citation needed on the REMA rocks. I still think box is noise and coffer is thud; until someone can provide a complete round's data with either of those in it, all we know for certain is that they can drop. Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Adding to this and cleaning it up a bit: Fenrir.Zenion said: » LT: Non-hoxne trove drops, volte, Reisenjima HELM drops, Selbina HTMB drops , pulse cells , moogle amplifiers, Ra'Kaz Starstone, REMA stone Coffers, Omen Wave 2 drops and boss materials (Nusku Shield, Moonbow Leather, Hope Crystal) Malkavius got Malignance Tabard as ITG drop. 'Selbina HTMB drops' should join the rest of the newer HTMB in ITG loot pool. You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared.
You hear a thud, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You feel like there's an impossible to gauge thud left to be made...? You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You feel like there's an impossible to gauge thud left to be made...? You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. Looks like your intuition was incorrect. You hear a loud thud, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. Malkaviuswhm gains 5690 capacity points. You find a beitetsu coffer in the Terminal Coffer. You find a mes'yohi haubergeon in the Terminal Coffer. You find a worn sack of snowdim stones +2 in the Terminal Coffer. You find a worn sack of snowslit stones +2 in the Terminal Coffer. You find a chunk of beryllium ore in the Terminal Coffer. You find a worn sack of snowslit stones +2 in the Terminal Coffer. You find a worn sack of duskdim stones +2 in the Terminal Coffer. You find a worn sack of leafslit stones +2 in the Terminal Coffer. You find a worn sack of snoworb stones +2 in the Terminal Coffer.   19:08:47You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared.
19:08:48You hear a thud, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. 19:08:50You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. 19:08:51You hear an impossible to gauge thud of massive spoils! 19:08:52You hear a thud, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. 19:09:06You hear a thud, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. 19:09:06You find a jadeite crystal in the Terminal Coffer. 19:09:06You find an ischemia chasuble in the Terminal Coffer. 19:09:06You find a pluton box in the Terminal Coffer. 19:09:06You find a chunk of dark matter in the Terminal Coffer. 19:09:06You find a plate of Indi-Gravity in the Terminal Coffer. 19:09:06You find a frayed sack of horror +2 in the Terminal Coffer. Pluton Box in thud. 12:46:33You hear a loud thud, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. 12:46:35You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. 12:46:36You hear a loud thud, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. 12:46:37You hear a noise, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. 12:46:43You hear a thud, as if a large amount of spoils spontaneously appeared. 12:46:43You find a hope crystal in the Terminal Coffer. 12:46:43You find a pluton coffer in the Terminal Coffer. 12:46:43You find a nibiru knife in the Terminal Coffer. 12:46:43You find a tourmaline in the Terminal Coffer. 12:46:43You find an igneous barnacle in the Terminal Coffer. Pluton Coffer in a Loud Thud inb4: "but why stop at 5" Because I was still in the feeling out what LT's offer stage and decided to not press my luck. I've since then wasted 3 LT runs pushing for the ITG. Seun said: » Fenrir.Zenion said: » LT: Non-hoxne trove drops, volte, Reisenjima HELM drops, Selbina HTMB drops , pulse cells , moogle amplifiers, Ra'Kaz Starstone, REMA stone Coffers, Omen Wave 2 drops and boss materials (Nusku Shield, Moonbow Leather, Hope Crystal) Malkavius got Malignance Tabard as ITG drop. 'Selbina HTMB drops' should join the rest of the newer HTMB in ITG loot pool. That doesn't work because an Odin HTMB drop landed at loud thud. I guess "Selbina HTMB" just isn't a meaningful category. The premium tier fights, the old HTMBs, and all of the other reindeer, I suppose. Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Fair enough. And now I get to go crazy trying to figure out how the hell I lost track of a regular noise drop when none of that stuff is even rare. (I wonder if cases/parcels are in there somewhere on noise tier? That seems like an SE kind of thing to do, and they'd at least be better than a 200 gil gem.) Sorry for the spam, just providing proof of things if it helps
 Seun said: » Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Adding to this and cleaning it up a bit: Fenrir.Zenion said: » LT: Non-hoxne trove drops, volte, Reisenjima HELM drops, Selbina HTMB drops , pulse cells , moogle amplifiers, Ra'Kaz Starstone, REMA stone Coffers, Omen Wave 2 drops and boss materials (Nusku Shield, Moonbow Leather, Hope Crystal) Malkavius got Malignance Tabard as ITG drop. 'Selbina HTMB drops' should join the rest of the newer HTMB in ITG loot pool. I've gotten Hjarrandi Helm as an LT. Felgar got Cath Palug Crown as LT. ITG: Dyna-D synth mats (job crystals, Ratnaraj), hoxne accessories, Wyrm Ash, Orb of Radiance loot, Wyrm God loot (weapon/armor only most likely), Lilith loot (Malignance armor only most likely), Tartarus Platemail, Pulse Weapons and Armor(?)
LT: Non-hoxne trove drops, volte, Reisenjima HELM drops, Selbina HTMB drops (MINUS Lilith) , pulse cells , moogle amplifiers, Ra'Kaz Starstone, REMA stone Coffers, Omen Wave 2 drops and boss materials (Nusku Shield, Moonbow Leather, Hope Crystal) T: Older HTMB stuff , Escha Zi'tah stuff, Vagary drops (equipment and materials), Delve boss materials, Heroism Grand Coffer, S. Ast. Det. Gr. Co, Abdhaljs Seal, REMA stone box (seen pluton box), Large Lustreless X box (seen scale) N: Goldsmithing stones, Skirmish pouches (Snow/Leaf/DuskXXX +2, Horror+2), Reisenjima Stone Pouches (Fer, Tau, Pel), Geo scrolls, Voidwatch Synth mats incl Provenance (serica cloth, voidwrought plate, Sealord Skin, Ormolu Ingot, etc), Voidwalker Synth Mats (Pelt of Dawon, Befouled Silver, Kidney Stone, etc), Codex of Etchings, HTMB synth mats (Hepa Ore, Sif's Lock, etc but can someone confirm Wyrm Blood?), Lustreless X box |
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