October 2025 Version Update

I thought "botting Limbus is a one way ticket to LM-17".

Well been seeing groups botting Limbus since launch and.. they're still there.

There's always the maxers that will +4 everything just because.

That's fair, and making the 5th one automatic (rather than the 1st) effectively still encourages doing the content.

Plus, the entire "maybe units, NMs, matters, etc, will have secondary uses". The accessories are nice but they really are not something absolutely necessary (unlike Malignance was, since we're talking about that recently).

+4 all the shiniessssss!!!

All the more reason why an 8% drop rate on matter is pathetic.

Yeah and all the "nah, people won't do this from day 1 cus they will definitely be banned" posts. I know people botting their 50k a week in both zones from day 1 for weeks.

The unrelenting naivety of some people, I'm jealous. I wish I could be so blissfully ignorant.

The grind is totes a trap and the staff will be watching all of our screens and the GMs will be banning them all.

So *** silly.

I think I'd be pretty happy with a 5 cap on matters per week per zone
But add a chance to get one from the ???

Not our fault if they, so far, failed at giving a proper incentive at killing NMs and the increase on the matter droprate appearently ain't enough.
That's up to them to fix things.
Keeping things this way because "then at least they have a purpose" sounds like a weak reason, imho.
Furthermore, in a scenario where the first matter is guaranteed some people would still want to open other chests for the currency AND for the matter, so NMs would still be relevant.
But still, could make so matter on the FIRST chest is only 100% if all 22 nms in the zone have been killed the previous month. There, fixed it!


Spoiler: I'm bloody sure there's more to come on NMs. I can totally feel there's something else at play with them but it's not unlocked because it's tied to parts of limbus they still have to release.

NM Tally shouldnt have been monthly, they should have just reduced the amount of NM's that respawn per week.

Original system:
Weekly reset, all 22 NM's are set to respawn, max of 4 per day. If your server missed a day killing them, your drop rate is unable to be maxed.

New system:
Monthly reset, all 22 NM's are set to respawn (is it still 4 per day?). You have a big window to clear them out. However, if they arent cleared out, the drop rate is hindered for the entire month.


What it should have been:
Weekly reset, four random dead NM's from the pool are set to respawn. If all NM's were dead, those 4 spawn Sunday. If there are NM's up from the previous week, run the original system with a max of 4 NM's per day. So if 2 NM's are up on tally, then those NM's say up and two more spawn, with two more waiting in line when spots open up at JP midnight. This system fits perfectly in line with why they made the change


And from the data we got from Phoenix, a 22/22 NM kill is something like a 33% drop rate?

Before: No one grinding Limbus for matters cause drop rate sucks.
Now: No one grinding Limbus for matters cause drop rate sucks.

They're the same picture.

After the first week, I'm not grinding it, but it's pretty easy to fit in a couple climbs a week.

It's boring if you're solo, but it replaces other boring activities like recapping merits or getting safety EP quite nicely. I haven't seen an escha lizard or locus mob all month.

NM hunts have fallen off now that the novelty is gone, tho.

I don't know I'm at rank 12 and rank 8 on my earrings so far, drop rate hasn't seemed that terrible even though plenty of NMs left up and I have missed a few potential runs. Also gained a few master levels and upgraded a few +4 to avoid capping my points.