FFXI Endgame - What Jobs Are Used?

FFXI Endgame - What jobs are used?

For the past couple of months, I have been seeing loads of ffxiah and reddit posts from new players asking about the usefulness of jobs, and what works for which endgame content... The conversation is often quickly derailed by passionate contributors who try justifying usefulness by specific scenarios or by personal experiences that may or may not apply to everyone especially newcomers to the game. It's a hot topic, and a complicated one so I thought it might be useful to put together a table summarizing my thoughts on the topic.



Happy to reply to DM's for specific questions on how certain jobs can be useful based on what you see in the table, but please don't message me with any criticism on how I am wrong about any scenarios. You can just nicely type about your own experiences below so that other people can see and maybe learn a thing or two.

Looks pretty accurate.

I would say Nin is used for some Gaol fights for 1st KI when doing 2 KI clears. Ongo for example has Nin bursting on first KI. I think one other as well.

SMN "occasionally used" for Reisenjima HELMS is just flat out wrong

Its literally the cheese job for that section of endgame.

Heavily used by people earning their daily bowl of rice

Which T3/4 is THF used for?

I would put MNK much lower in dynamis D wave 3...I haven't used one once in years, and wouldn't use it unless desperate. It should be "extremely rarely used" for Ody C farm. Basically never. I'd also argue it's rarely used for GF, but you could technically use any DD, I guess...

I would also put THF in the "extremely rarely used" for Ody C & Ambuscade. THF is "highly used" for Omen..soloing...but almost never used for Omen bosses. It's also extremely unimportant for HELMs; are people killing HELMs for their drops?

I'm not sure if SAM is used in 2/7 T3/4...I think I used it on 0, but some people use it on 1?

NIN is often used on T3 as people have said, depends on your setup though.

SMN should be bumped down some tiers in Omen/Dynamis. I've only ever used SMN in Omen for Kei, like you said for BLM. I've never had a SMN in Dynamis, except when they need RP.

BLU could easily be in the "highly used" category for all the stuff other B-tier DPS are put in (THF, MNK, DNC, etc.) so I'm not sure why it got put in occasionally.

I think PUP should be rarely/extremely rarely for Dynamis, GF, and Omen.

DNC is extremely rarely used in Ody C. We used DNC in 2-3 T3s.

I think 4 bosses for SCH is a bit much. Depends how many KI you're doing but I think we've used it in maybe 2?

RUN depends on strategies as well, we've used RUN in...2? I've never seen a RUN in a seg farm but I guess some people do that. It seems to me that it's just a significantly less effective PLD.

I've never seen a GEO in an Ody C seg farm, IDK what "occasionally" is referring to, are people really using GEO in segs?

The rest all seem right to me.

It's only useful when it's useful, but larceny can be pretty clutch. Otherwise, it's a reasonable damage option for some multis. Obvious farming utility for scales and hides, so I think it probably deserves more shine than most would.

i think a small note saying BST (and RUN) is/are used for Ody RP cheese is valid/worth?

Imo, SMN is no longer used that much by regular players. It's way easier to throw regular melee zerg with DD in Sakpata, than bother with gearing a SMN.

Can do V15 bee NM. Maybe v20 but other piercing jobs are preferred.

Bumba too. It can Savage Blade like the rest of the lot and Larceny SP1s. But not common

looks good overall, but Reisenjima HELMs list has way too many jobs as highly used. in my experience, you either conduit or just let a buffed WAR handle it.

Nice job.

My input. I think BLU is more useful in Omen and Geas than Segment farming. You can cleave mobs with easy in Omen and you can reapply def down on bosses and you can fully used am3 and on mid bosses you have tools to mitigate almost all threats from them beside pain sync.
On segments you are imo slightly limited by losing am3 every time you need to switch to blunt.

DNC being used more for Omen than BLU is definitely subjective (which you wrote it is, so I'm not saying it's bad). From the usefulness pov BLU is definitely more useful in Omen than DNC.

Personally I don't see a reason to bring RUN to Omen.

I would also take off ** from GEO in Sortie, because he is also often used in melee 8/8 bosses strategy and always in 9/9 bosses strategy.

This is neat. I think you need a higher category for brd and geo.

Highly Used is severely underselling it.

And Cor needs an even higher category than those 2.

Oh and if V15 is baseline for Gaol then BLU is used for Ngai too. It's the second best dps there I think and mighty guard helps a lot.

On small servers where the average player hardly has nyame r15 and sakpata r0, smn burn is the de facto standard method for Lses that welcome all/new players.

These lses advertise a set of gear for a smn to have to be included in aeonic runs.

Melee burn is easy, if you have the gear. Most of these players do not.

Idk Sakpata r0 and nyame R15 seems sufficient for almost all helms, but on the other hand I haven't done this in ages.

I've seen shouts for summoner even on Asura. You won't believe how many hours people will shout for just to burn one HELM in thirty seconds, when they could clear all of them in an hour with a standard party. Just laziness

Regardless if in 2025 its more efficient to just melee burn ReisenHELM down due to powercreep, its still wrong to suggest SMN is "hardly used".

Especially when:
1-MNK THF PLD DNC are "highly used" in ReisenHELM
2-Mage jobs get their little ** in sortie.

I think BLU is a phenomenal job for Geas Fete. But it's such dated content that the job hardly matters. From a solo perspective, I'd say it's commonly used but that's just my personal opinion because I play the job. If people aren't playing the job generally speaking, obviously it will be rarely or hardly used in content

Looks look a pretty solid reference / guide. Pretty accurate. Of course some are very debatable, like SMN on helms. Overall though, very strong and I'd definitely refer new players to it.

One thing I believe is that RDM in segs should be higher. I mean I agree in reality in may be "Rarely used" but that's only because of misconception many people have. Reality is with a proper group it can replace the healer position and contribute 5-7 million damage as well, becoming the party MVP.

Also, maybe worth adding a note on something like BST for ody - its only used in 2 fights, but for 1 of those it's considered almost essential. Maybe worth noting how critical it is in the one fight. (same with dnc, and maybe others).

I was saying most people do not have even that.

I agree... based on what everyone has experienced I would probably change it if I ever go back and edit the table.

I don't see where BST is essential? Mboze v15 maybe because there is no adds?

GEO occasionally used for Sheol C? Wut?
I wouldn't go higher than "rarely used" honestly, if not even "extremely rarely".

I think a newer / less geared group would make use of a geo. Buffs are still full potency and can use:
Fury / Geo-STR
have a second reliable healer / haster
oshit indi-refresh for the whm
Barrier for Halos, as some of the Agon's hit hard even in full DT


Yes, an A/S tier group wont use a GEO, but a lower tier group will likely need to rely on it.

I concur Nynja, and I think that fits perfectly into the "Rarely Used", which is what I suggested compared to the current "Occasionally Used".

When is the last time you saw a PUG accept a GEO in their Sheol C party?
Last time a guy tried with one of those rare "Relaxed Sheol C pt" on Asura they were accepting PUPs but not GEOs, to make a practical example.
And honestly even if they were, those pts are very very rare.

I wouldn't dare to go above the "rarely used" definition for GEO in Sheol C.
I mean currently the scale created by Weeew has 4 possible values.
1 - Extremely rarely used
2 - Rarely used
3 - Occasionally used
4 - Highly Used

Giving it a 3 out of 4 for something that is so uncommon sounds like it could give very wrong expectations to new players.
And wasn't that the goal why Weeew created this table to begin with?
I mean, Weeew gave "Rarely Used" to NIN, which is actually a very good job in Sheol C since you can overexploit the Hybrids.
And GEO is more commonly used than NIN for Sheol C? I mean, c'mon! :-D

I just used Ninja in Sheol C earlier, but it's not common to see that. Would still put it in rarely used, just because it's outside the norm, doesn't mean it can't be used. I've never seen GEO in Sheol C farm ever, but that doesn't mean it's not applicable. Rarely used is appropriate for both jobs imo, geo probably loved to extremely

It's not, and yet I've seen some (and I've been NIN myself) and as a matter of fact it's correctly tagged as "rarely used", I agree, it's rarely used.

And GEO is more used than NIN?
"Rarely used" for both sounds good, if you ask me.