Job Adjustments - What Would You Do?

Make aeonic Tp bonus +500 work in offhand for dagger, katana, axe and put warrior and ranger on the axe, and club so we don't have to use stupid non ilvl weapons

This isn't enough sadly, you can already see it w/ Ikenga's vs the TP bonus axe.

Give aeonics (further) augments.

Make all aeonics have a TP Bonus +1000 augment.

Game is saved.

I'll get on topic and do some job updates. These are in addition to previously mentioned ws overhauls.


General
RDM
WHM
GEO
NIN
DRG

I overTP on THF so much I often waste the +1000 with Warcry and Moonshade. Same as other jobs. +500 and not needing to gear for dogshit accuracy would be good.

100%. These are so dumb currently it pisses me off that SE can't see how bad they are.

I actually want no changes to the weapon at all other than pulling some jobs off of it. I believe it was designed with a specific purpose in mind but was allowed to too many jobs; some of which with tools and traits to turn the thing into a monster (Looking at you, Dragoon)

Leave the weapon exactly as it is, just remove it from jobs that don’t need it and aren’t supposed to have it would be my fix.

My argument is that jobs like DRG need it as a slashing option, especially without a ws overhaul giving other options. Edit: I take 20% off it's damage with the trait adjustment below.


My goal would be Polearm first, Staff second, Sword third for DRG with weaponskill and trait changes; like their skill ranks dictate.

Those could work. But you touched on another point:
Why not rebalance the weapon resistances in Odyssey?

I’m probably missing something but Odyssey is the biggest driver of this necessity, no? Rebalance that and DRG won’t necessarily NEED. Powerful slashing option anymore? Idk, there’s design flaws all over the place and a few dozen ways to “fix” them and none of the fixes are gonna make everyone happy.

Yeah the Ody -% damage is actually bs. There absolutely should be bonuses for using piercing on flying mobs and blunt on skele and crabs, but no penalties.

I'm not opposed to it, at least for A/B/C but at certain point you get back to, for instance, polearm only, and then why do secondary skills exist? I like the need for a variety of dmg types, and the bosses each having a dmg type; I like clubbing Henwen, and the Sortie basement on RDM just like I like some fights needing elemental ws vs physical. That was one of the cooler things to me about BLU back when the physical spells mattered as well.

Some more job stuff to stay on task-

PLD
RUN
SCH

DNC: Add form of dispel flourish and remove the useless ones, remove the negative effect on Saber/Fan Dance, make Sambas last longer; Fix Spectral Jig so it doesn't fail if you already have one effect up

NIN: Blade: Ten should be competitive with SB/Naegling, either via a weapon or buffing; improve debuff potency; give us a way to make Migawari AoE

BST: Reduce timers on invoking pets, it shouldn't be as restrictive as it is now even if it shouldn't be as flexible as SMN; make certain buffs whole party instead of just master/pet; improve accuracy of debuffs to be usable; make ML stat boosts apply to pets; make jugs learnable like PUP attachments

DRK: I'd like to see scythe damage rebalanced compared to Torcleaver

PLD: Make Ochain great again

I'd settle for Migawari being functional.

Add a general merit category for specific elemental resistances. So you could spend merits to have a point of say, fire or light resistance for example.

Make bar status spells temporarily give you the resistance job trait instead of how they currently work. So barparalye(ra) would give you the resist paralyze trait for its duration. Resistance level would depend on enhancing magic. It would stack directly with existing resistance, like cor, drk, or run's general one in the example of paralyze.

In terms of spells in general, I'd target several that I see as redundant (like self target only barspells; just have the aoe versions) and open up the floor for new spells now that there would be room in the game for them.

It already has been. Origin does more damage than Torcleaver and Cross Reaper actually does about the same damage as Torcleaver same with Insurgency with Liberator. The thing that sets Caladbolg apart from Scythes is AM3 and lower delay.

That's not balance for equal accessibility though

WAR: Mighty Strikes lasts 3 mins with 3:10 cooldown.
MNK: Can toggle stances between blunt fists, piercing fists, and slashing fists so you have access to 3 damage types.
WHM: Add teleport: Norg and teleport: Mhaura spells.
BLM: Fix magic crit rate to do double damage. Remove MB damage cap.
RDM: Add a spell that gives ~300 attack buff.
THF: TH gives a chance for any mob in the game to drop astral crystals.
PLD: Give it Flashga.
DRK: Soul eater consume 10% HP but does 100% of your HP as damage. Add Kraken club ilvl 119.
BST: Can charm and control players in your alliance.
BRD: Can change the background music for you and your party.
RNG: Bows do damage in an AOE of 10 yalms.
SAM: Add access to Naegling.
NIN: Remove access to Naegling.
DRG: Add new skill tree for wyvern and wyvern can grow into Wyrm.
SMN: Add summon Anima, Yojimbo and The Magus Sisters.
BLU: Unbridled makes all spells AOE.
COR: Has access to Trueflight.
PUP: No changes.
DNC: Add TP Samba.
SCH: Kaustra's DOT is increased from 25% to 50%.
GEO: Enrust is 10 sec cooldown. Entrusted spells get same bonus as indi-spells cast on self.
RUN: Gets Sentinel and Rampart.

Lol. Yeah cor definitely needs more powerful magic WSs, exactly what's missing from that job.

And rng gets.. Aoe arrows. Brilliant.

War: Change Restraint to incress crit hit rate over time. Reseting when you WS. Still provide the new crit rate when you ws.
Monk : Change Boost again.... But for real. Change guard to be able to activate when not engaged and a new job trait like Inquartata for guard.
WHM : Afflatus Solace allow stoneskin to activate on ga spells and raise cap on stoneskin. Afflatus Misery, give whm the job trait Pray, that heals in aura around the whm.
BLM : Remove the 99999 cap on MB Spells.
RDM : Give Job Trait Double Cast. Allows Healing and Nukes to occasionaly cast a second time for free. Also remove RDM nukes from effecting and the effets of the nuke wall.
THF : Remove the 99999 cap on SA and TA. Split accomplice and Collaborator. Allow TA to break the cap on VE and CE
PLD : Allow cover to absorb AOE, Add Bardark and Bardarkga.
DRK : Add Barlight and Barlightga, Allow absorb Stat spells to share with party. Give MB an added effect to decress mob resistance to that element, Like -10% Earth when MB Stone, ( Def the job I understand the least.)
BST : Augments "Killer" effects , built in Founders Breatplate for Killer Instinct. Jugs should not be consumed, be like the mount system when jugs are traded you can use with out jug. Allow some jugs to be hard to obtain. rare/ex
BRD : Add new songs for debuffs, macc down, meva down, crit rate down,
RNG : remove 99999 cap from ranged WS, Change EES damage to be at least the same damage as last WS used.
SMN : New Summons. To focus on smn to support party.
SAM : Remove 99999 damage cap on skillchain damage.
NIN : Mijin Gakure can MB off any skill chain incress damage . Mijin Gakure gives Nin an Arise effect auto raise and auto RR. Change Dual Wield on nin to not lowed TP gain based on new delay but to use old one.
DRG : Allow PET to WS for party buffs based on Subjob, PDT BONUS , MP RESTORE , PHALANXGA
BLU : Allow blu based buffs to be effected by enhancing magic duration, remove TP loss from Chain Affinity, Allow Diffusion to have 2 charges and reduce time from 10M to 5 MIN
COR : Reduce Phantom Roll recast to be 30 Seconds, the job dont really need anything...
PUP : Adjustments on elemental limits on frames and heads. Add new head and body for a pet that can aborb TP
DNC : New Sambas and Steps, a TP absorb Samba, steps to reduce MOBS elemental resistance like RUN
SCH : Chage Modus Veritas to allow next helix spell to raise DOT cap to 20k,
GEO : New ability on long cool down to ignore peniltys in zones that restict geo spells,
RUN : Max number of runes to 4, allow added effects based on combo of runes, based off the duel elementals in Seakers area, like added effect flash terror stun silence burn

Naegling just needs to be removed from the game. It's not just heavy dds. No sword that isn't a hard earned r15 rema should be doing that much damage. No sword class without said rema should be doing that much damage. Sword is a crutch and a curse.

A dispel flourish would only see much use if it was in the flourish I category. Remember, flourishes consume not just finishing moves, but activate the cooldown timer of the group they're in. Because of the WSC meta we're in Flourish III is basically forever locked in as climactic flourish, and flourish II is forever locked in at reverse flourish. It would take a pretty extraordinary circumstance to upend these two abilities. Animated, and desperate flourish are already never used, and violent is used so seldomly it's easy to forget it even exists. So a dispel flourish on that tier could see use, but at that point we're getting into questionable balance issue territory. At what point does dancer's utility package become too strong? They already cure like a white mage, debuff very effectively, give JA haste and tp and skillchain like champs. Is adding a dispel into their kit on a 30 second recast timer maybe a bit too much?

I think the other points are bad ideas. The whole concept of a "stance" is that you're gaining something new or enhancing your ability to do one thing better, while reducing your efficiency at another. When heavansward was the latest expansion in FF14 warrior had a thing called "stance dancing", where they'd swap between a tank stance and an offensive stance. Their offensive stance dramatically reduced their enmity gain and made them take considerably more damage, but it also raised their outgoing damage. Conversely, their tank stance reduced their outgoing damage by I think 25%, but in exchange they recovered 25% more health whenever a healer cast a cure spell on them, and their enmity generation was dramatically enhanced.

The sneak and invis thing is just a byproduct of the system working the way it does. You can't refresh your sneak timer by using a second silent oil, and Utsusemi ichi doesn't overwrite ni. These interactions have worked this way since forever. You're looking at fundamental system changes the devs probably wouldn't be willing to tackle because the sphaghetti would unravel and the world would fall apart.

In addition to the other changes I proposed on page 1 that would make JAs much more usable ..

For DNC:
* Haste Samba II - 20% JA Haste, 25% with merits
* As someone else mentioned, don't let dual wield that doesn't reduce delay decrease TP/hit.
* Pyrrhic Kleos buffed to 2.5 fTP/hit.
* Ternary Flourish should force a triple attack on both hands of the next round (including WS).
* Reduce recasts of JAs. Desperate/Violent/Wild/Presto 10s. Striking/Ternary/Building 5s.
* Move the CHR boost of Flourishes III (and the Dex/agi boosts of SATA) inside the ftp term

2 Gil say the set of people that moan about naegling overlap 99,9% with the set of people that will not invite noobs because they can't deal damage.

GEO:
- Spread it's lol nuking and nerfed buff capabilities between BST,SMN and maybe PUP and delete the job already.

THF
RUN
SMN
DRG
BLM
RDM
RNG
COR
NIN
GEO
PUP

Most jobs are in a very good place. The only jobs I think that need work are NIN, RNG, BLM and SMN.