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Soloing EP Trust Setups
By soralin 2025-06-26 23:45:09
I'm looking to start digging deeper into hitting ML50 on some of my jobs, and Im curious what folks have had success with for trust setups.
The biggest issue I seem to be noticing is my trusts accuracy has become pretty bad on Locus mobs, Im curious if folks have just outright abandoned trying to skillchain with their trusts at this point, or if there's setups to get their accuracy unfucked enough to still skillchain with.
On Apex mobs, I am really liking:
Ygnas
Sylvie
Ayame
Shantotto II
Which is of course your fairly bread and butter setup. I've found Ayame to be the most reliable at opening skillchains for me, her AI is spot on and she opens Light for me to Savage blade off of, assuming her hit rate is good, due to her very high TP gain rate.
For the remaining slot though, I dunno who works best. I feel like perhaps Ulmia or Joachim for accuracy buffs is good of course, but perhaps there's a better option? Sylvie should be haste capping me, so if either of them pop March instead its basically doing nothing at all at this point. Joachim probably will be more likely to just give me acc+att
Qultada gives DA + Att usually, but he will *** up my skillchains sometimes.
Anyone had success with using food + cheer mementos perhaps to unfuck trust accuracy?
Also, importantly, do trusts continue scaling up with your master level, or do they stay stagnant regardless of if you are ML0 or ML50? (Nevermind found there's 2 bgwiki pages for trusts and I see the answer to this is no, rip)
Also: is it crazy to be going /dnc for quickstep + desperate flourish as a solution to make my trusts less dead weight? Lv 5 gaze + desperate flourish I assume helps close that gap a bit, but I dunno if a different sub job would do an even better job of lowering the enemy's evasion, or increasing my party acc.
By Nariont 2025-06-27 00:40:47
Honestly once you pass like apex crab level evasion(so round 1119 or so acc) trust accuracy starts becoming less and less reliable unless you either have your own buffer like a brd, or are rdm and can drop distract III, as koru's macc starts getting unreliable as well ontop of just being an mp sink overtime
Qultada/Sylvie/Ygnas or monb/king for dia 3/haste II/Joachim and ulmia, or 1 of them + shan is typically what i run with if im doing all trusts.
Arc1 is great cause she'll always haste II even if someone else has placed Haste1, as ygnas/sylvie -love- to do, but you lose dia entirely which is a harsh trade.
Most jobs have atleast 1 solid 3 step SC they can do, sometimes 4 but without SAM roll you can struggle going past 3 depending on job but the 3 step generally suffices to taking chunks off mobs if not killing outright and beats having to wait on a trust to catch up
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By Asura.Reidden 2025-06-27 06:30:52
Use the trusts that buff you the most to get the fastest tp and the most dmg, kind of like if you had a real party. Use grape daifuku or sushi, shoot for 1100 acc with no buffs. For Qultada, you just have to beat him to it lol. Practice your setup on Apex Crabs or Apex Eft before going to Locus.
Ex: You, Rdm, Cor, Brd, Healer and last spot to whatever extra little buff you can get. Maybe Kuyih acc?
By Lili 2025-06-27 07:07:44
Keep in mind that Sylvie only hastes a few jobs (pld nin run I think), outside of those you will need Ulmia+Joachim to ensure double marches. Bit of a pita, yeah.
As for trust accuracy, remember that aoe foods are a thing and do apply their effects on trusts! marine stewpot gives +90 accuracy and magic accuracy and lasts 3 hours, which means that even at Asura prices it's pretty decent value and goes a long way to make trusts more viable.
Aside from that, Matsui is actually pretty decent at MBing, and Monberaux is simply the best exp healer.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-27 07:28:20
You haven't told us what job you are, though you mention haste from Sylvie and "Savage Blade", so that implies you're one of the three "considered" tank jobs, but unlikely RUN because they use GS. If you're Ninja, scrap ayame+shantotto entirely and just multi step with katana. If you're PLD, I'd argue cleaving is likely better MLs. If you're RUN, I'd be curious what your gear looks like. Without decent Nyame and Qultada, RUN has terrible attack so you'll need a way to push that to make your damage bearable. My guess is your PLD and you TP too slow to self SC, which is why you rely on Ayame? If so, you probably can drop the healer for more support since you can heal the party yourself.
A trust's opening SC or magic bursting is very minor damage compared to your DPS, though it might be decent if you're doing something like Apex Poxhounds and can Savage Blade for massive damage off it. My thoughts are you should instead focus on capping magical haste and go to town, if you have reasonable DPS gear to make it worth it.
I never use DD trusts to make SCs for me, they're basically buff batteries that support me doing all the damage. I don't rely on them for SCs or anything, but I'll use them to my advantage. I've learned that when using trusts like Qultada, it's better to work with his SC than around it. He'll always interior you at the worst possible time, so keeping an eye on his current tp will allow you to anticipate his 2500 damage burning blade or Detonator.
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By Fenrir.Brimstonefox 2025-06-27 07:54:48
I use AAGK and Shantotto II to complete SC/MB objectives solo in Omen, against tough mobs I find them to be useless though.
For xp (generally locus bats in KRT) I usually use:
August, Ulmia, Koru-moru, Qultada and Apururu
That fairly safe and get enough haste to self-SC. Depending on job/level typically 10-30k/hr range.
I'd played with a few other combos and haven't noticed much difference. (e.g. August is not really necessary, but Jochaim just adds acc songs when acc is already capped)
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-06-27 09:12:40
What job is the op?
What master level is the op?
Probably redundant to what is already said but
If you are a dd and can take hits buff trusts
For most melee
jobs being able to self sc is a must
So therefore capped haste via rdm and a bard
samurai roll is well hard to get
King of hearts but he aoes fusion or light, ignores your friends
Koru moru is pretty decent because he dispels and buffs others doesn't fight so no tp pain points he will only flurry cors
Ulmia and joach are by no means great bards but they are better than nothing I used to use both sometimes
Then attack buffs or misc
Sylvia is good for more attack sometimes
Qualtada is a gamble literally
Then tank or a trust you can synergize with for a sc or mb
By soralin 2025-06-27 10:01:13
Im discussing in the general sense.
Yeh if Im not a tank, I swap from Shantotto to Ulmia, and if I am a "ranged" job I swap from Joachim to King of Hearts.
I found on slightly weaker Apex mobs, where around 1100 acc is enough, I could kill enemies waaaaay faster by using high ftp WSes like Savage Blade or Black Halo or etc, and skillchaining off Ayame, depending on the job approaching capped damage and, if I select a good target, nearly killing them off in a single SC, but usually 2. As I usually hit around 1600 TP when she opens, and then Im at 2k TP when I close, so I pretty much cap my damage.
So extremely fast job points.
The exceptions are probably Cor and War, who have such jacked TP bonuses that I dont gain much from WSing at 2k.
But now going up to Locus mobs where you want like 1300~1400 acc depending, Im finding my trusts accuracy falls off hard.
Ive started raising the +10% trust accuracy wyrm in Monster Rearing, which should get them a decent chunk of acc.
And yeah, I was eyeing stewpot as a solution, I was curious if folks found Cheer + Stewpot was sufficient to unfuck trust acc on locus mobs, especially ayame who I truly find to be by far the best SC opener for pretty much every job.
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By Sylph.Timepassesbye 2025-06-27 11:26:11
for my dd jobs, I use either yoran on monberoux(start with yoran to get the unity objective then swap to monboy
koru is my personal preferred haster, but I know many are partial to king, but I don't like the skillchain interruptions.
ulmia and or joachem, not always perfect songs but more buffs for savage blade of the jobs that use it.
qualtada rounds out the party, he will sometimes mess with the skillchains, but no other cor options available.
if I want additional bursting options, I 'll drop one of the bards and add in shantotto 2
if I'm on a job that cant handle getting hit, I drop one of the bards and put in AAEV or Val if I know I'm going to get links
at higher levels, trusts are more for support than damage so having a skillchain partner just falls off hard with their lower stats.
I'm looking to start digging deeper into hitting ML50 on some of my jobs, and Im curious what folks have had success with for trust setups.
The biggest issue I seem to be noticing is my trusts accuracy has become pretty bad on Locus mobs, Im curious if folks have just outright abandoned trying to skillchain with their trusts at this point, or if there's setups to get their accuracy unfucked enough to still skillchain with.
On Apex mobs, I am really liking:
Ygnas
Sylvie
Ayame
Shantotto II
Which is of course your fairly bread and butter setup. I've found Ayame to be the most reliable at opening skillchains for me, her AI is spot on and she opens Light for me to Savage blade off of, assuming her hit rate is good, due to her very high TP gain rate.
For the remaining slot though, I dunno who works best. I feel like perhaps Ulmia or Joachim for accuracy buffs is good of course, but perhaps there's a better option? Sylvie should be haste capping me, so if either of them pop March instead its basically doing nothing at all at this point. Joachim probably will be more likely to just give me acc+att
Qultada gives DA + Att usually, but he will fuck up my skillchains sometimes.
Anyone had success with using food + cheer mementos perhaps to unfuck trust accuracy?
Also, importantly, do trusts continue scaling up with your master level, or do they stay stagnant regardless of if you are ML0 or ML50? (Nevermind found there's 2 bgwiki pages for trusts and I see the answer to this is no, rip)
Also: is it crazy to be going /dnc for quickstep + desperate flourish as a solution to make my trusts less dead weight? Lv 5 gaze + desperate flourish I assume helps close that gap a bit, but I dunno if a different sub job would do an even better job of lowering the enemy's evasion, or increasing my party acc.
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