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Bard AF Feet+4
Sylph.Drlove
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 15:15:49
Got them today found out you can go Nitro to Nitro withOUT a carn. I did this with 2 Kali's for 90 minutes in Limbus, with a party of 5. Was also confirmed that it adds durations to song by a Bard using Carn as well. Im not sure of the % increase, but I do have to pop Nitro, wait for the 90 second recast to be around 50 seconds to have it continue from Nitro to Nitro with no issues.
By Nariont 2025-06-15 15:30:49
the +3 and +4 feet have the same duration so im not sure what you mean
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-06-15 15:50:32
Anyone else open this thread, hoping for a case of mistranslation or something
Sylph.Drlove
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 16:01:50
Anyone else open this thread, hoping for a case of mistranslation or something
Yeah, SE has never messed something up on an update before. It's just me trying to get people to waste 10k points. That's it. You got me Nariont.
But for real go try them, then come say sorry your so jaded everyone lies to you, not another mess up from SE on an update on gear.
By soralin 2025-06-15 16:04:35
If true, I wonder how many other items might have stats differing from the translation
Id be curious to look at stuff like *** hands, which seem very odd to not have gotten TH+5 on them, and it would be very easy to test if they are indeed TH+4 or TH+5 and mistranslated...
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-06-15 16:09:43
zoning up floors/to entrance/re-entering all freeze the buff duration, second here and there adds up.
Makes it appear as if your buffs last longer than normal, even if by only 10 seconds or so.
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 16:12:50
I have no idea if its only bard af feet, the whole set or everything. But Im happy as a pig in mud over being able to go nitro to nirto. Like the OP I have to wait from the 90second activation to start casting around 50seconds left on Nitro timer, if I pop it as soon as I hit nitro songs drop off with like 10 seconds left on recast of Nitro. I'm assuming its probably 1-2% but Im not into the whole game match thing that much
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-15 16:34:47
You should read bronzequadav's post before you start getting all giddy over this.
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2025-06-15 16:37:57
I have no idea if its only bard af feet, the whole set or everything. But Im happy as a pig in mud over being able to go nitro to nirto. Like the OP I have to wait from the 90second activation to start casting around 50seconds left on Nitro timer, if I pop it as soon as I hit nitro songs drop off with like 10 seconds left on recast of Nitro. I'm assuming its probably 1-2% but Im not into the whole game match thing that much
No, no and no!
Someone else has already brought this up but for decades, LITERALLY DECADES, teleporting floors etc pauses your buffs but also keeps your Cooldowns ticking.
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Sylph.Drlove
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 16:40:50
Asura.Bronzequadav said: »zoning up floors/to entrance/re-entering all freeze the buff duration, second here and there adds up.
Makes it appear as if your buffs last longer than normal, even if by only 10 seconds or so.
I'm currently testing in Mhaura, on my 4th set of Nitro - Nitro, I can still go Nitro - Nitro each time, but the window is closer instead of casting with 50 seconds left, its closer to 30 second of a window.
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 16:51:54
The gear that I was using, Songs HM, Minuet 5/4/3 and HM, Minuet 5/4/Mad.
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2025-06-15 16:52:28
Asura.Bronzequadav said: »zoning up floors/to entrance/re-entering all freeze the buff duration, second here and there adds up.
Makes it appear as if your buffs last longer than normal, even if by only 10 seconds or so.
I'm currently testing in Mhaura, on my 4th set of Nitro - Nitro, I can still go Nitro - Nitro each time, but the window is closer instead of casting with 50 seconds left, its closer to 30 second of a window.
"Test" all you want, we used to keep Primeval Brews for a good 30mins+ in abyssea by clicking the ???.
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 16:55:46
Bahamut.Creaucent said: »"Test" all you want, we used to keep Primeval Brews for a good 30mins+ in abyssea by clicking the ???.
I did "test" and TBH I'm already done with this, I forgot how petty and butthurt people are in this game. Im leaving the post up, incase normal people want to read it. Otherwise, y'all can sit there and say no all you want, tbh idgaf. And btw Creaucent go ahead and go in DarkGamers and ask Kat about it.
By Nariont 2025-06-15 17:00:06
If true, I wonder how many other items might have stats differing from the translation
Id be curious to look at stuff like *** hands, which seem very odd to not have gotten TH+5 on them, and it would be very easy to test if they are indeed TH+4 or TH+5 and mistranslated...
So far all the trait aspects of +3 > +4 have remained the same, even if they're TL'd oddly like SAM AF hands using a different description for rice balls.
Wouldnt be the 1st time though, happened just recently with pld boots but that wasnt a change in +3 > +4 just something that always was that they just happened to patch up in the +4 lol
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58456/soo-about-the-converts-dmg-to-mp-on-af-feet/#3750482
If brd lucked out then great, would just be an outlier to all the other pieces across the AF/Relic upgrades
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By Odin.Naytan 2025-06-15 17:08:10
What you describing could have already been done without any change it the feet. You have 9+ min songs without carn. Nitro last 1 min 20 seconds. If you wait until end of nitro buff your have your 9+ min songs with less than 9 mins left on nitro. So +3 or +4 feet it's the same process.
If your saying it makes your songs last longer than say that, my songs were X seconds before, now they are X+6 seconds/+12 seconds or whatever. Using Nitro juggling as a measuring tool isn't gonna be useful to say what the change you believe these feet have.
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Sylph.Drlove
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 17:11:45
What you describing could have already been done without any change it the feet. You have 9+ min songs without carn. Nitro last 1 min 20 seconds. If you wait until end of nitro buff your have your 9+ min songs with less than 9 mins left on nitro. So +3 or +4 feet it's the same process.
If your saying it makes your songs last longer than say that, my songs were X seconds before, now they are X+6 seconds/+12 seconds or whatever. Using Nitro juggling as a measuring tool isn't gonna be useful to say what the change you believe these feet have.
Correct before I could never get it to go nitro to nitro more then twice. Same bard gear, only thing that changed was my boots to +4, as above maybe its like the pld boots that did so much change, but were corrected from what they were supposed to be before.
Even if I knew about the pld feet before hand and posted Bard AF+4 seem to be working as intended on +3 feet, people would still ***
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 17:13:57
And for the Number I'm thinking a 1-2% not 10%, Its enough that if would have did bard as before and Nitro then re-sing short duration songs, then Nitro again. I would not have noticed. Just so happens I was only doing songs and sleep, and wanted to try it out more.
Hence when I was told about the timers in Limbus, I tested it in Mhaura, just standing there.
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-06-15 17:14:43
Like said above, double kali + your gear and nitro = 9min26second songs(Honor march, esp marcato, and madrigal with its additional +10% are going to last even longer), meaning if you let nitro sit for 35+ seconds you're going to be able to go Nitro to nitro. If you were getting 1-2% from +4 it would add like 3-6 seconds to nitro songs.
With that being said you could of simply cast a song with /clock, and then /clocked or used chat timestamps as it wore and shown the exact duration of your songs which would of let you know without a doubt if the +4 was giving you a longer duration. Instead you decided to be emotional and pretend you're a victim for some reason.
Just time your exact duration and nobody can dispute what you're saying and you'll know yourself, rather than going nitro to nitro for some reason. Be awesome if the boots gave brd longer songs, if I had them I would test them for you but is no reason you cant report the exact song duration.
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By Odin.Naytan 2025-06-15 17:21:46
What you describing could have already been done without any change it the feet. You have 9+ min songs without carn. Nitro last 1 min 20 seconds. If you wait until end of nitro buff your have your 9+ min songs with less than 9 mins left on nitro. So +3 or +4 feet it's the same process.
If your saying it makes your songs last longer than say that, my songs were X seconds before, now they are X+6 seconds/+12 seconds or whatever. Using Nitro juggling as a measuring tool isn't gonna be useful to say what the change you believe these feet have.
Correct before I could never get it to go nitro to nitro more then twice. Same bard gear, only thing that changed was my boots to +4, as above maybe its like the pld boots that did so much change, but were corrected from what they were supposed to be before.
Even if I knew about the pld feet before hand and posted Bard AF+4 seem to be working as intended on +3 feet, people would still *** Well if you could get it done once or twice already before than I'm confused at this post saying you just found out today you could go nitro to nitro.
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 17:27:14
cconstantly I could not, the recast of nitro would be shorter and shorter till it would run out
By Veydal1 2025-06-15 17:29:27
cconstantly I could not, the recast of nitro would be shorter and shorter till it would run out
Asura.Bronzequadav said: »zoning up floors/to entrance/re-entering all freeze the buff duration, second here and there adds up.
Makes it appear as if your buffs last longer than normal, even if by only 10 seconds or so.
Sylph.Drlove
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 17:30:30
Sylph.Drlove said: »
cconstantly I could not, the recast of nitro would be shorter and shorter till it would run out
Asura.Bronzequadav said: »
zoning up floors/to entrance/re-entering all freeze the buff duration, second here and there adds up.
Makes it appear as if your buffs last longer than normal, even if by only 10 seconds or so.
Okay, explain to me why I can do it in a City as well
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By Sylph.Drlove 2025-06-15 17:38:23
Asura.Bronzequadav said: »Like said above, double kali + your gear and nitro = 9min26second songs(Honor march, esp marcato, and madrigal with its additional +10% are going to last even longer), meaning if you let nitro sit for 35+ seconds you're going to be able to go Nitro to nitro. If you were getting 1-2% from +4 it would add like 3-6 seconds to nitro songs.
With that being said you could of simply cast a song with /clock, and then /clocked or used chat timestamps as it wore and shown the exact duration of your songs which would of let you know without a doubt if the +4 was giving you a longer duration. Instead you decided to be emotional and pretend you're a victim for some reason.
Just time your exact duration and nobody can dispute what you're saying and you'll know yourself, rather than going nitro to nitro for some reason. Be awesome if the boots gave brd longer songs, if I had them I would test them for you but is no reason you cant report the exact song duration.
Just timed Marcato Victory march 9:49
just Nitro valor min 5 9:38
done using a stop watch, id get a +/- error of 1sec. so go try it, proove that your all right and Im just some nut stirring ***. Then maybe you will see what myself and others have seen now.
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-06-15 17:46:02
ok again stop being so emotional, that duration would mean it was in fact giving you more than listed, unless I messed up my own calculations. A screenshot would help as with all testing. If I had the boots I would test them just to help you out.
9min38second minuet would be 20%(5% higher than what it lists) from the boots I think. Was forgetting about 5% from gift bonus, 9min38sec is the normal duration
There isn't anything wrong with people wanting proof of claims beyond "it just is"
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2025-06-15 18:06:03
So decided to test with BRD +3 feet and exactly the same duration gear for the rest.
Nitro Marcato Victory: 9:57
Nitro Min V: 9:38
By Virlym 2025-06-15 18:14:34
I happen to have made a fresh bard alt who just got the +4 feets, while having the +3 feets on my main still.
The duration was the exact same on both.
Tested with nitro as well just incase, same result.
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-06-15 18:24:42
Bahamut.Creaucent said: »Nitro Min V: 9:38
So I was wrong in my 9min26seconds, must of missed something, thanks for posting numbers, Oh I was forgetting about 5% from gifts.
The duration was the exact same on both.
Case closed.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2025-06-15 20:54:35
By DaneBlood 2025-06-15 21:43:48
The duration was the exact same on both
Bahamut.Creaucent said: »So decided to test with BRD +3 feet and exactly the same duration gear for the rest.
So 2 verification that there was no difference from the Brd Feet +4 just Sylph.Drlove not knowing why he got the results he got, and made up a fantasy explenation. (and held on to it despite multiple people telling him alternative reasons)
This is why we ask for proof and testing rather than emotional outburst.
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Got them today found out you can go Nitro to Nitro withOUT a carn. I did this with 2 Kali's for 90 minutes in Limbus, with a party of 5. Was also confirmed that it adds durations to song by a Bard using Carn as well. Im not sure of the % increase, but I do have to pop Nitro, wait for the 90 second recast to be around 50 seconds to have it continue from Nitro to Nitro with no issues.
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