June 2025 Version Update

I lack the vocabulary to describe the level of discontent I feel right now. :(

I don't even feel the need to update my game client. I'm just going to bed.

That's rough

Hopefully there is more to come
Well back to AFK
Until next time

Max level is 130 btw. I'm not having a problem soloing it.

My expectations were low, but SE finds ways to impress...

Limbus is going to be empty unless it's good for MLs, lol.

Was it ever mentioned if they're stopping at +4 or if +5 is coming next time they update this?
I'm trying to find the model they used to update these 220 pieces, because clearly they used a standard model and not individual adjustments.
It's something like:

+10 HP and MP
+5? DEF
+5 to base stats (not all, just some, what's the criteria here?)
+5 to Acc/Macc
+10 to Att
+2/3 to MaB
+40 Meva
+1 MDB
+X WSD (2% for pieces which had 10, 3% for pieces which had 6)
+1 to "skill" stats

Then there's some other adjustment.
Pieces which had no Acc, received Acc+. Pieces which had no Macc, received Macc+
Still generic adjustment though, no individual thing.
All of the "special" stats remained the same. Boosts to JAs or spells, xDT, stuff like DA/TA, STP, Crit Rate, Crit Damage, Magic Burst etc.


I think this is a not overwpowered but still good update.
All of the AF/Relic pieces which were already good (there's plenty!) just got slightly better.
Some pieces which were "okaysh" but inferior to other options, now are viable again and competitive with gear released later.

Only complaint I have is maybe the "Pet:" gear. There's not much of that gear, some pieces could've really used some real individual adjustments to the pet stats, but sadly they didn't take the challenge.

What's left to see now is how are things going to be with the speed of upgrades.
I have a lot of AF/Relic pieces I want to upgrade and with the weekly caps I'm gonna have to set up ap priority list and decide what to upgrade first.
How many pieces are you gonna be able to upgrade per week?

I bet one Relic and one AF per week, right?
Gonna take a long time...

Killing 3 mobs at 130 allowed me to get 1/2 of the bar filled on North Tower F1. I don't know what any of that means.

If I had to guess, 10k per piece. This gives you 1 set per week (if you focus only on a single job). Takes ~half a year to do all jobs.

SE explained it in their post. You need to fill the bar on every floor to get the key to open the chest at the end.

not sure if mentioned, but lol

and also the fact this is only CL130 and they said they do plan to update/release NMs later... unless they are just gonna add random unique garbage, i can see them lifting the cap and making +5.

my cope is that this +4 is just to bring this stuff back up to "current" ilevel, then ACTUALLY "upgrade" them with the next content level update to limbus

Well guess I’m go to bed with blue balls.

You can haz alliance, not that you'd want to for trash farming.

But you can.

Instant respawns. Expected exemplar points, as in no big multiplier.

Yeah I can sort of see +5 coming. With the same approach of +4 (boosts to the same types of stats, ignoring all others which were ignored on the +4).
That would make AF/Relic+5 have something like... WSD+14/15?
Which would open the possibility for them to release, in the far future, Empyrean+4/5 upgrades with the same amount of WSD boosts.


Well... that would be acceptable. Perhaps too good lol?
On the other hand what I said before (1 relic piece and 1 af piece per week) would be a bit depressing...

Killing an enemy at 130 and one at 119 give the same amount of data.

I had planned to make hype videos for the new +4 gear... I don't think I have it in me to hype this, I guess it will be videos on what I want to see in the +5 gear if they ever make it.

Wait a minute... the patch has been out for less than an hour and the game's already dead?

Mobs seem to have some DT on them something like DT-50%. They sleep. AoE doesn't work at all.

AOEs will only work after they aggro, because it live sets their level when they aggro. I've had a BP not go off because it was the tic between then being idle and aggroing on me and getting level adjusted.

I'm logging in the zone to see if stuff carries over if you don't leave.

Supposing +5 comes out (I don't see why not) it's quite likely to expect the same exact model they applied on the +3>+4 upgrade would be enacted for the +4/+5 upgrade.

That would mean:
+10 HP/MP
+5 Def
+5 Acc/Macc
+10 Att
+2/3 mab
+2/3 WSD
+5 to some of the base stats
+1 to "skill" stats

Which also means NO update whatsoeever to all the other special stats: JA boosts, Spell boosts, DA/TA/QA, STP, Crit Rate, Crit DMG etc etc etc.


Honestly it doesn't seem like a bad approach.
I understand the necessity we players have for HUGE updates to get hyped, but what did you expect them to do? A jump from +3>+4 similar to the one we got from Empy+1>/Empy+3?
Given how powerful Empy+3 still is nowadays, that wouldn't have been good for the health of the game in the long run.
It pains me to say it, but it is what it is...


Now... if we're talking about adjusting SOME of the special stats (some TA, some JA boost, some spell boost etc) well... SOME of those could've been boosted for sure. Not all, but SOME could and actually would've needed an update for sure.
Problem is NOT ALL.
Which means they would've needed to carefully weigh each and every one of those 220 items individually, and... it wasn't realistic to expect that. It's too much human work, it's sad but that's the state of things.

Sorry what I meant was the dmg was crap: 3800 on main target 17-41 on others

Supposing it already did, or like... when it really does? lol

I actually miss old Limbus. Now I can't even go back and visit it to reminisce...

My guess is no. But does anything doom?

@Seun
That's a typo in the naming convention.
Meaning that those pieces, which are +4, are actually named +5 in the english version because of a simple mistake.

This, among other things, makes me believe that eventually a +5 version might really be released, but then again it could simply be a simple typing mistake so I wouldn't read too much on it.

If and I repeat *IF* it comes out in the future, the same approach used in the +3>+4 upgrade should be expected. Which means a lot of people in here would be sorely disappointed.


I'm personally not exalted or overly excited, but modestly happy with what I've seen so far.

Mobs use empowered versions of JA it seems? BLU osmosis might prove useful.

There is probably a good reason to strengthen the WSD, but dont extend the ability-durations further like the previous stages. Must be just me, to not understand it ><

I mostly just wanted to see defensive stats brought up to empy+3 levels, that 0 DT was added for anyone, not even on items that had some already is rough. Even some minor improvements to more unique bonuses like duration bonuses would have been something to get excited about.

has anyone been able to open a chest yet? In Central Temenos with all 4 KI's from each floor and the chest won't open. Can't use or trade the KI's.

for the one who said that we are in era 75, I think he is wrong, you can not at first take the equipment and equip yourself in 1 day because if not the new content, there has to be something for you to cost you to upload it, now you have dynamis every hour to enter that seems good to you and it takes years, it should be entering once a day, and so on, otherwise you load the economy and the content, see if you wake up and do not say those things, and do not expect more things because they do not care about the game, I have returned because it is what I have liked all my life, and right now there is nothing to play everything is garbage, but for me I would not enter more because they have let the game die, and thanks to the people it is still alive, I give them a year, if they do not put anything I leave,