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 Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-06-10 00:53:51
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Well ***. I was ready to congratulate everyone on their new jobs farming limbus 24/7 but I can't imagine anyone going ape ***for any piece of +4

Everyone's shitting on the spelling mistakes and the terrible pieces, but there are a *** of AF+3/relic+3 pieces that are already good and will be even-better-good at +4.

They didn't do any kingmaking, but there's still a TON of AF/Relic that should be upgraded by anyone who gives a ***about being BIS.

You're talking about an upgrade so insignificant it's not even going to be worth the effort. It's THAT bad. It's like adding 5 damage to your REMA.

Depends on the piece. Agoge Mask, already BiS for lots of WAR WS, got 5 STR, 5 acc, 10 atk, 2% WSD. I wouldn't call that insignificant.
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By Tarage 2025-06-10 00:54:31
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If there's no augment system this is dead on arrival. Forget RMT and bots spamming this, the zones will be empty.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-06-10 00:54:40
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Well ***. I was ready to congratulate everyone on their new jobs farming limbus 24/7 but I can't imagine anyone going ape ***for any piece of +4
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-10 00:54:56
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Hoo boy. I haven't gone through the entire list, but this ***is BAD bad. Jeez, did they seriously add one singular point of stats and 0 to anything meaningful? Yikes. 2 WSD is about what the expectation was.

THF head got +3 WSD, putting it at 9% WSD and Crit Damage +5%, which makes it competitive to Nyame. Just eyeballing, but this piece looks like a potential winner for any stacked WS. Will see how the numbers shake out. Back to the list.... (wow)
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By Bahamut.Ivlilla 2025-06-10 00:55:02
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The only remotely redeeming thing I can see about these is the increased eva/meva. For some people, that will be big.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-06-10 00:55:22
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Well this is going to get lost in the mix rather fast.

I recall the green they used to use being much darker, I'm not 100% certain, but almost certain the border color is new.
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By Sylph.Snk 2025-06-10 00:56:40
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I mean I guess they're upgrades but nothing to lose my ***over.

I feel like we're back in the old days of 75 content where people would grind for months to get that added +1/+2 to stats.

I'm not pissed about it but yeah... lol
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By Tarage 2025-06-10 00:57:34
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Well this is going to get lost in the mix rather fast.

I recall the green they used to use being much darker, I'm not 100% certain, but almost certain the border color is new.
I bet you it's the same color as they use for the glow on the numbers for the mog wardrobe ***. Or if it is different, it's different in the exact same way it is for, say, the blue and yellow.
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By Bahamut.Ivlilla 2025-06-10 00:58:39
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Back then, 1 or 2 points was a big thing.
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By Ultimaetus 2025-06-10 00:58:42
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Then they unlock the next part of their plans and the new currency cap is millions. And you get 50k a week to spend 3 months getting a new thing.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-06-10 00:58:55
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Not that a ton of things are resisting a maxed out BRD in the first place, but BRD gains 40+ macc from upgrading their AF, probably a fair bit more than that.

RDM is already using like 9 pieces of their AF/relic in their BiS sets, so they just gained a ton of macc, some skill, some FC, plus having more meva in those sets.

BRD relic body was BiS for some WS, it's now even more BiS, and a huge help for people without Nyame R30 (or 25, or 20).

There's a lot of extremely good gear here and the whole thread is people hatebombing the fact that they didn't overhaul the shitty pieces. I guess that's how you roll in internet upvotes, just go along with the crowd.
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By paladinepsot 2025-06-10 01:00:01
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Chatgpt: Here's a bunch of items, normal quality through +3. Generate +4 items. Use this video of Matsui's latest colonoscopy as inspiration.
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By Tarage 2025-06-10 01:01:41
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Maybe someone will correct me, but none of the SMN gear seems like it's worth much of anything.
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By warmech 2025-06-10 01:02:20
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relic smn gear never was
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-10 01:02:56
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Bard Relic body:

DEF:150 HP+99 MP+104 STR+42 DEX+41 VIT+44 AGI+41 INT+42 MND+38 CHR+45 Accuracy+58 Attack+102 Magic Accuracy+59 Evasion+89 Magic Evasion+140 "Magic Def. Bonus"+9 Haste+3% Weapon skill damage +12% Physical damage taken -7%

I think I was already using this piece for the attack in most WS sets over R30 Nyame, so even better now.

edit: see maletaru mentioned this already
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By Tarage 2025-06-10 01:03:38
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warmech said: »
relic smn gear never was
Body is still BIS for Multi-hit and Hybrid.
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By Littleflame 2025-06-10 01:04:49
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The Wakido Kote changed the rice ball text from "Greatly enhances effects of rice balls" to "Able to fully appreciate rice balls". So thats something.
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By Nariont 2025-06-10 01:10:35
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Triple riceball potency noone will ever use, cmon SE wheres the wsd rice ball(or just riceball variety in general)
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By Genoxd 2025-06-10 01:10:51
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The relic gloves got +57 Pet M.ACC added to them with the skill + I believe that makes them the best pet m.acc piece for SMN. Not that it's very useful...but that's the only thing I see.
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-06-10 01:12:23
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Wait, so they only buffed macc/acc/atk/meva and wsdmg? most pieces Main stats and attribute bonuses are exactly the same lol.

Like monk+3 head has the same crit rate, focus enhancement, and main stats as +4, Geo relic head has the same aspir potency/pet HP boost as +3.

So if they were worth using now or nearly worth using they're a TINY bit better at +4 and if they aren't worth using they are still not worth using. They didn't even buff the DT or change things like PDT to DT on any of them.

I mean I expected 90% of them to not be good simply because of how many pieces were coming out but that's even more lazy than I imagined.
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By fractalvoid 2025-06-10 01:12:36
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PLD relic legs got +15 evasion and +40 magic evasion which is pretty nice.

Lots of stuff got little bits of like accuracy and evasion. Hoping maybe when they release NMs and go to +5 some of this stuff will get better cos man it's pretty underwhelming atm.

I guess if content level 130 limbus is supposed to be the gear stage pre-Ody/Sortie/Empyrean+2&3 then maybe the higher content level limbus will come with gear that actually rivals some of the Odyssey and Sortie gear?
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-06-10 01:15:34
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Asura.Bronzequadav said: »
Like monk+3 head has the same crit rate, focus enhancement, and main stats as +4

Not that it's terribly relevant but, nope. MNK head got 5 DEX, 5 AGI, 3 MND. Also meva etc.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-10 01:16:37
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After reviewing the new gear, the weekly cap on points doesn't sting so much.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-06-10 01:21:58
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The biggest kick in the teeth is 0/220 got any new dt (?)

And like 6/220 got a mediocre meva boost?

It's all unwearable in 2025 except to risk your 1 second ws.

(i'm definitely not looking at every single piece to count)
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-06-10 01:24:12
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
The biggest kick in the teeth is 0/220 got any new dt (?)

And like 6/220 got a mediocre meva boost?

It's all unwearable in 2025 except to risk your 1 second ws.

I think every single item got a meva boost, from 25 to 40 (or 50?).

As far as whether you can wear it or not, I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news bud, but people have been wearing the +3 versions for YEARS, up to and including before this patch. So...it's gonna get worn at +4 as well.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-06-10 01:24:53
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I mean like an actual jump. THF hands went from 0 to 58

Macc not meva nvm
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-10 01:28:16
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NIN AF+4 mask finally has Accuracy on it.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-06-10 01:28:28
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And they reset the xiview files again, ***
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-06-10 01:33:32
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Now we cope and pretend that these aren't stopping at +4 or getting augments as limbus is expanded upon.
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