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By Kaffy 2025-07-06 12:39:35
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if you do use bidder or another similar ah tool, you'll notice that the delay between placing a bid and receiving confirmation is entirely artificial. maybe it has some legit function reducing AH traffic, but mostly makes you wait for the hell of it to see if you won the item or not.

if you find yourself using it very often, repeater works to set your own delay, too.
By Asura.Aragan 2025-07-06 16:41:00
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Asura.Aragan said: »
You are like me, they will not believe you because they call you a liar and because they do not know, and if you tell them that it is a secret, they will never believe you unless you explain it to them and they see with their own eyes, and I have deleted my private topics and I will never say anything again. I am very sorry for what happened to you. I hope to see you soon.

Somehow you showing up to *** suck a guy clearly cheating as if he is a martyr to the cause AND using the opportunity to try to earn yourself some pity points is so incredibly on brand that I'm shocked I hadn't expected it in the first place. You really are trash.

Listen, I can call you trash and everything. Anyone can say the same. lol
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By Bahamut.Daleterrence 2025-07-06 16:44:53
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Kaffy said: »
if you do use bidder or another similar ah tool, you'll notice that the delay between placing a bid and receiving confirmation is entirely artificial. maybe it has some legit function reducing AH traffic, but mostly makes you wait for the hell of it to see if you won the item or not.

if you find yourself using it very often, repeater works to set your own delay, too.

It's called gameplay and it's very very important to slow everything down!

(would actually love it if someone made something to just make all AH purchases instant)
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-06 17:01:52
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I very quickly glanced thru bidders code, and i dont think theres anything stopping you from doing speedy bids.

Of course, the server logs will show you making multiple bids per second, which isnt supposed go be doable.
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By Tarage 2025-07-06 17:16:02
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If you bid on something then immediately exit out of the menu the results appear instantly. It is a client side delay.
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By Seun 2025-07-06 17:33:51
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Tarage said: »
If you bid on something then immediately exit out of the menu the results appear instantly. It is a client side delay.

You can also just run away from the AH and force the window closed when you range it.
By Asura.Aragan 2025-07-06 17:45:58
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When Sebo said that he takes 120-160 galli daily no one believed him.. Now everyone has become an expert after he say this big secret and amazing discovery.. No one knew this before.. And how can he explain to you something that you did not know before, did not see and did not hear about it ever.. It is funny for these idiots here.. I do not mean all but some.. And I respect the wise people here.. But the idiots who talk a lot do not know anything and are only looking to steal information..

I have always said that cleave strat is big, no one knew and did not believe that it works, everyone was follow one strat, there was no research team and everyone was following one strategy, and they were calling the explorers and researchers noobs, and they were the noobs, but they did not know, lol.. It is a funny thing.. Otherwise, now the game has a lot of mystery and secrets that no one knows, such as the secret of sortie lxion, no one knows the whole secret, but it is possible that some people do not want to disclose this secret, and it is possible that no one knows them, and in the end, I follow some topics here, but I do not like to be a chatterbox.. and I still say that I have some secrets, and I said some of them and deleted them for personal reasons, and I said one of them in the ivaar channel in discord and deleted it after that, and some people got it.. and I still have a big secret that I do not tell anyone about only one person i trust him selindrile , except maybe next year if I finish some things so that some players here learn the lesson, and I know that there are those who believe me because they saw some of the secrets that I deleted, with all due respect, and I did not see anyone Idiots here don't have any useful topics, just bad language towards people. That's all they have.

thnx sepo for telling this big secret and new discovery
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By K123 2025-07-06 17:50:05
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TL;DR

Sebo claimed he pulls 120–160 galli per day; people mocked him, but now they act like experts after he revealed how.

I always said the cleave strat was powerful, yet most players dismissed it and stuck to one “safe” strategy while calling real experimenters “noobs.”

The game still hides major mysteries (e.g., the sortie Ixion secret) that either a few players won’t reveal or no one has fully cracked yet.

Sebo dropped hints, posted and later deleted some discoveries on Discord, and still sit on an even bigger secret they might share next year—mainly to teach doubters a lesson.

I respect the genuinely curious but not the “idiots” who contribute nothing, use foul language, and only lurk to steal information.

Thank you Sebo for disclosing this big secret.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-07-06 17:54:23
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Asura.Aragan said: »
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Sebo's "Secret" & Undiscovered Game Mysteries
Remember when Sebo claimed those high "galli daily" numbers and no one believed him? Now that he's revealed his "big secret," suddenly everyone's an expert! It's ironic how quickly people jump on the bandwagon after a discovery, especially when they had no clue before.
This reminds me of the "cleave strat" I used to talk about. Most people dismissed it, sticking to old ways and even calling explorers "noobs." Turns out, there's a lot more to this game than we thought! There are still many undiscovered secrets, like the "secret of sortie lxion," that no one fully understands.
I've got a few secrets of my own, some of which I've shared and then deleted (some of you might have caught them!). I'm holding onto a big one that I might reveal next year to teach a lesson to some players.
Thanks to Sebo for sharing his discovery – it's definitely sparked some interesting discussions!
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By Tarage 2025-07-06 18:03:53
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Asura.Aragan said: »
When Sebo said that he takes 120-160 galli daily no one believed him.. Now everyone has become an expert after he say this big secret and amazing discovery.. No one knew this before.. And how can he explain to you something that you did not know before, did not see and did not hear about it ever.. It is funny for these idiots here.. I do not mean all but some.. And I respect the wise people here.. But the idiots who talk a lot do not know anything and are only looking to steal information..

I have always said that cleave strat is big, no one knew and did not believe that it works, everyone was follow one strat, there was no research team and everyone was following one strategy, and they were calling the explorers and researchers noobs, and they were the noobs, but they did not know, lol.. It is a funny thing.. Otherwise, now the game has a lot of mystery and secrets that no one knows, such as the secret of sortie lxion, no one knows the whole secret, but it is possible that some people do not want to disclose this secret, and it is possible that no one knows them, and in the end, I follow some topics here, but I do not like to be a chatterbox.. and I still say that I have some secrets, and I said some of them and deleted them for personal reasons, and I said one of them in the ivaar channel in discord and deleted it after that, and some people got it.. and I still have a big secret that I do not tell anyone about, except maybe next year if I finish some things so that some players here learn the lesson, and I know that there are those who believe me because they saw some of the secrets that I deleted, with all due respect, and I did not see anyone Idiots here don't have any useful topics, just bad language towards people. That's all they have.

thnx sepo for telling this big secret and new discovery

You are completely incapable of shutting up aren't you. You already felated him once, no need to go back for sloppy seconds.

Anyone who complained about me harassing poor Aragan here wanna take it back yet? Or does he have to make a further *** of himself.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-07-06 18:08:55
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*Munches on popcorn*
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-06 18:17:23
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Asura.Aragan said: »
When Sebo said that he takes 120-160 galli daily no one believed him
Cap

No one doubted him. He said it was an exploit he discovered. Thats what people didnt believe.

Asura.Dexprozius said: »
Nice abuse of superwarp/silmaril warp and tako, really unorthodox

Lo and behold, this was spot on.
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By Nariont 2025-07-06 18:21:33
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There was some back and forth on if it was possible to even get that much galli i think, but if you just warp whole camps to you by going OoB to cleave then that becomes a lot more believable. And the whole thing was less "it cant be done" and more "why would you risk doing all this stupid obvious to track stuff to get it?" and also "That's ALL you got from doing all this obviously to track stuff?"
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By Dodik 2025-07-06 18:24:35
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People have figured out you can hax0r the bitzers and get them to warp you to any boss room you want.

That will definitely save you time. If you cleave on top of that, it's feasible.

Super duper secret though, don't tell anyone.

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When Sebo said that he takes 120-160 galli daily no one believed him..

Literally told him what he was doing.
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By Asura.Aragan 2025-07-06 18:27:56
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hahahhaha
By Asura.Aragan 2025-07-06 18:35:22
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Anyway, he was honest and truth ... whatever he was used it legally or illegally.
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By soralin 2025-07-06 18:38:37
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Nariont said: »
And the whole thing was less "it cant be done"

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
No one doubted him. He said it was an exploit he discovered. Thats what people didnt believe.

There was literally an entire page and a half of people outright claiming it was physically impossible to even get 130k points without a way to repop bosses.

Til then folks figured out maybe you could abuse the trick to make enemies warp on top of you.

Which, it turns out, was the "trick" they had "discovered" (not realizing many of us know about it, but I can forgive them for thinking its a new thing cuz most folks don't ever use that trick for anything useful, and no one really ever talks about it)

Why are we being revisionist when the entire page and a half of that discussion is right there for anyone to go look at? Did yall just forget about it?
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By Tarage 2025-07-06 18:47:57
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soralin said: »
Nariont said: »
And the whole thing was less "it cant be done"

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
No one doubted him. He said it was an exploit he discovered. Thats what people didnt believe.

There was literally an entire page and a half of people outright claiming it was physically impossible to even get 130k points without a way to repop bosses.

Til then folks figured out maybe you could abuse the trick to make enemies warp on top of you.

Which, it turns out, was the "trick" they had "discovered" (not realizing many of us know about it, but I can forgive them for thinking its a new thing cuz most folks don't ever use that trick for anything useful, and no one really ever talks about it)

Why are we being revisionist when the entire page and a half of that discussion is right there for anyone to go look at? Did yall just forget about it?

Again, we didn't say it was impossible, we said it was impossible without exploits. And he WAS using an exploit. Poorly I might add.

Why are you insisting on going to bat for this guy?
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By K123 2025-07-06 18:49:14
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Asura.Aragan said: »
Anyway, he was honest and truth ... whatever he was used it legally or illegally.
But is it true that you are still the master of secrets?
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By soralin 2025-07-06 18:58:31
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Tarage said: »
Again, we didn't say it was impossible, we said it was impossible without exploits. And he WAS using an exploit. Poorly I might add.

Revisionist for literally no reason. The claim was it was outright impossible unless specifically they figured out a way to repop bosses. That was an entire page and a half til people went "wellll actually maybe if you can use the y juggling trick..."

Why are you trying to revise a history anyone can just like, go back and read? Its all right there on pages 19 to 21

K123 said: »
There's no way to gain an extra 40k unless you somehow respawn bosses

Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
You can't do 130k unless you can respawn bosses, straight up. Even if you teleported everywhere you went, you can't get another 45k on top of 9 boss, period. You'd need to full clear all of the basements of every enemy in there and then some.

Even if you have all the tools in the world, you still have to wait for enemies to gather together to be cleaved. Also: cleaving with a 9 boss setup is WAY more dangerous.

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You can't do 130k unless you can respawn bosses, straight up.
Pretty much.

Its fine to admit "okay it is possible without any new tricks, we were wrong, 130k is physically possible just warping"

But to be revisionist and try and pretend there wasnt like a page and a half of people going "Its LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to even get 130k in the first place without some new exploit like repopping bosses" is weird, it 100% was absolutely a discussion that happened.

Some folks (like Thorny) were able to admit "okay looks like it is theoretically feasible if you practice", which is fine.

But like, don't go pretending people weren't saying stuff and try and be revisionist about it, thats even more cringe than the person's initial aloofness about their method.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-06 19:00:10
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soralin said: »
Which, it turns out, was the "trick" they had "discovered" (not realizing many of us know about it, but I can forgive them for thinking its a new thing cuz most folks don't ever use that trick for anything useful, and no one really ever talks about it)
Thats cause a heavily majority of the "cheating community" tend to avoid using things that have a high rate of getting the banhammer.

POS hacking: check
Fleehacking at max speed: check
using a clipping exploit: check

The discussion of "is this even possible" was due to notion that no one would be stupid enough to do all these things at once.
When OP said "I found a new exploit", those people you quoted were likely under the belief this new exploit was to respawn bosses somehow.
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By Dodik 2025-07-06 19:05:33
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Guy came in all "I have super secret", got told what it was and that it's not a secret, then showed video doing exactly what the first guess was in page 16.

Sure some people doubted anyone would be dumb enough to cheat *that* hard just for an extra 30k.

I guess they were wrong.
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By Asura.Aragan 2025-07-06 19:07:26
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soralin said: »
Tarage said: »
Again, we didn't say it was impossible, we said it was impossible without exploits. And he WAS using an exploit. Poorly I might add.

Revisionist for literally no reason. The claim was it was outright impossible unless specifically they figured out a way to repop bosses. That was an entire page and a half til people went "wellll actually maybe if you can use the y juggling trick..."

Why are you trying to revise a history anyone can just like, go back and read? Its all right there on pages 19 to 21

K123 said: »
There's no way to gain an extra 40k unless you somehow respawn bosses

Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
You can't do 130k unless you can respawn bosses, straight up. Even if you teleported everywhere you went, you can't get another 45k on top of 9 boss, period. You'd need to full clear all of the basements of every enemy in there and then some.

Even if you have all the tools in the world, you still have to wait for enemies to gather together to be cleaved. Also: cleaving with a 9 boss setup is WAY more dangerous.

Shiva.Thorny said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
You can't do 130k unless you can respawn bosses, straight up.
Pretty much.

Its fine to admit "okay it is possible without any new tricks, we were wrong, 130k is physically possible just warping"

But to be revisionist and try and pretend there wasnt like a page and a half of people going "Its LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to even get 130k in the first place without some new exploit like repopping bosses" is weird, it 100% was absolutely a discussion that happened.

Some folks (like Thorny) were able to admit "okay looks like it is theoretically feasible if you practice", which is fine.

But like, don't go pretending people weren't saying stuff and try and be revisionist about it, thats even more cringe than the person's initial aloofness about their method.


hahahaha that was funny

thnx soralin i respect you
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-06 19:08:37
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I even called it too

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Dudes probably poshacking and fleehacking around to minimize travel time and spend more time farming extra stuff.

Theres no secret objectives that no one knows about.

I didnt guess the clipping thing, onoz.
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By Asura.Aragan 2025-07-06 19:11:38
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K123 said: »
Asura.Aragan said: »
Anyway, he was honest and truth ... whatever he was used it legally or illegally.
But is it true that you are still the master of secrets?

hahaha no bro i just have a little
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-06 19:32:27
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
When OP said "I found a new exploit", those people you quoted were likely under the belief this new exploit was to respawn bosses somehow.
Pretty much.. my response to the first post was:

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Obviously it's easy to do 9/9 and still have time to speedhack/aoe/respawn/whatever if you're warping from one boss straight to the next. It's not imagination, exploration, and most importantly-- innovation, it's common sense with a side of cheating.

The only reason people doubted him is because we didn't think someone would make a curated warp route like that. It's asking to be banned, which is silly when you're doing it for a grind that takes 6 months to pay off.

I also said, before his video:

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If you can reliably make the monsters teleport to you, it's certainly possible. Someone who was dead set on doing it with no concerns for cheating could send position requests for every monster in the area and warp to them one per position update. With packetflow and modification of your outgoing position packets, you could aggro 70 mobs in 18 seconds(or grab 20 at a time every ~5 seconds or whatever).

I still wouldn't consider that to be exploring, experimenting, etc. It's just really aggressive cheating while cleaving. Boring. I think the real takeaway is just that this person thought warping boss to boss was unique then followed it up with an above average cleave session and a bit of exaggeration.

The whole thing is stupid. At least a half dozen people said he was speed/posing and warping between bosses after his first post. He came back and ignored all of those responses, which led people to interpret his claim as something else. Everyone who understands how the game works thought he was hinting at something more unique or exciting. Only the people who flagrantly cheat, but are somehow still bad at it, see it as an actual accomplishment.
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By Asura.Aragan 2025-07-06 19:38:05
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But to be honest, some people knew the secret but did not mention it in detail. I think it was a coincidence or a stroke of luck. But the truth and the method were much greater. We were shocked. And there is still a missing particle, 20 minutes of the video.

and i think Thorny more one he say some detail info secret
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-07-06 19:46:39
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Wow it's like the ai is looping
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By Tarage 2025-07-06 19:47:05
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Asura.Aragan said: »
But to be honest, some people knew the secret but did not mention it in detail. I think it was a coincidence or a stroke of luck. But the truth and the method were much greater. We were shocked. And there is still a missing particle, 20 minutes of the video.

Noone. Cares. Shut. Up.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-07-06 19:58:08
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*Munching intensifies*
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