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June 2025 Version Update
By K123 2025-07-03 04:46:54
But yeah, in the end I made the follow-up post because i've just been on the fence about what I should do with it. I just don't think this is something that should be carelessly dropped into the world without some serious deliberation about the people involved.
I don't really know anyone deeply on this game and have primarily been communicating with people in the more shady parts of the community, so I don't really know anyone here or how they would react. I've been told repeatedly not to engage with people here and have been given some pretty grim images, which I didn't really think was true given all the knowledge people have contributed.
But the reality seems like only one person (?) was able to approach my situation with a bit of empathy, so forgive me if my idea that discussing it with you guys would potentially make me feel more inclined to share it. To be honest, I observed way more empathy and calmheaded-ness underground from all those lowlife scoundrels. I thought you people were supposed to be the good guys? Those pitchforks look pretty sharp though.
Regardless, despite the not so kind reception, I'm still not 100% opposed to the idea of sharing it. I guess I just have to think on this a awhile longer.
Thank you all for your input though, I genuinely appreciate it. Share it with Thorny and he can validate it. He wouldn't share it.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-07-03 04:51:41
What this person wants is a slew of people to get on their knees, capitulate to his wealth of secret knowledge, lick his boots and sing his praises for such a groundbreaking, miraculous discovery, and engage in an endless stream of niceties.
In doing so, Mr genius bug discover with now feel ever so good about himself, and ultimately tell his followers that "The information is actually too dangerous" and not post a shred of credible information anyway.
Don't cowtow to charlatans, snake oil salesman, buffoons like this guy who is simply making these shitposts to stroke their own ego. This person has had not only the original post some weeks ago, but multiple posts here in which they could have divulged Any information regarding their claims. They repeatedly throw a large number around and nothing further.
If they had any shred of principle or ethic to their so called 'discovery' they'd reveal even the tiniest bit of further information, such as "multiple bosses" or tools being used, route, challenges, etc.. However, they don't even have the balls to do that.
For someone who's "done, unsubbed, and doesn't care" as Maletaru correctly identified, you have no barriers infront of you for explaining yourself. If you were being even slightly honest, and you had a meritorious claim, you'd back it up. Even if you did so in private to someone who can research it or share it on your behalf if you were in any way concerned about your characters safety.
You're a liar, you're wasting everyone's time. You're dredging up your original shitpost yet again for a quick hit of social interaction that you desperately crave.
Mr. Sepo, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-07-03 05:16:35
You can't do 130k unless you can respawn bosses, straight up. Even if you teleported everywhere you went, you can't get another 45k on top of 9 boss, period. You'd need to full clear all of the basements of every enemy in there and then some.
Even if you have all the tools in the world, you still have to wait for enemies to gather together to be cleaved. Also: cleaving with a 9 boss setup is WAY more dangerous.
IDK, maybe this hyper genius completely broke all of the content and there are CIA assassins who are threatening them. The much more likely scenario is some clueless moron made up a story and forgot to fact check it before posting it.
I'm glad you're enjoying your second troll post. I think you're just embarrassing yourself and giving away the game.
By Lili 2025-07-03 06:09:54
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »respawn bosses
Fun fact, I recall this this being possible at one point, but I think it was patched pretty much immediately. Memory is hazy but I think it was an emergency maintenance even.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-03 06:15:07
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »You can't do 130k unless you can respawn bosses, straight up. Pretty much.
Share it with Thorny and he can validate it. He wouldn't share it. He doesn't really need to. If I premise that boss respawn exists, it can't be that hard to find. Same as the medal exploit a few years back, there are only a few systems that would potentially interact in a way that could trigger it.
If you can repop bosses, there are a few obvious methods to attempt.
Enter/exit menu boss uses same menu ID but different parameter. Try exiting with entrance param/coordinates. Try entering and exiting with out of range parameters.
Each boss spawns at the same location. It's possible entering a downstairs floor spawns the boss rather than the device itself. POS warp to boss location and try bitzer or entering different downstairs.
Try to interact with bitzer or device while inside boss arena and triggering a respawn. Might be the zone tracks where you are rather than which device is being interacted with to handle respawns.
Use aminon parameters on a different boss to get multiple aminon spawns
Again, this is a hypothetical. If someone wanted to try, these are the most likely things they should try. I have not tried, because as I said when this person first showed up, risking a ban to get Primes faster is absolutely silly. If I were invested enough to care about them, I'd automate the content so I could safely get primes at the speed of lockout. There's no need to go faster than that.
That said, the person is being intentionally vague and using comments like:
Quote: exploring, experimenting, and seeing how far I could push things using all the tools I have available to me Quote: spent months theorycrafting and testing a bunch of different routes and comps to imply a degree of creativity using available systems. They don't seem to imply they've done anything with packet manipulation. This really just makes them seem like a complete and total liar.
If you can respawn or cross-spawn bosses, there are basically 2 strategies worth looking at:
-Kill Aminon 3-4x and get whatever else you can.
-Kill Dhartok(someone more into sortie might choose another, but that's still 4 options and no route planning) over and over for the entire time.
Their story doesn't make sense even if you assume you can respawn bosses. I don't want to say they're lying outright, because the amount seems feasible if any of my proposed mechanisms actually work. But, if they're actually getting those amounts using one of those mechanisms they've clearly twisted their explanation of it to avoid giving it away. They just want attention, no matter how you put it.
By Dodik 2025-07-03 06:46:14
People have figured out you can hax0r the bitzers and get them to warp you to any boss room you want.
That will definitely save you time. If you cleave on top of that, it's feasible.
Super duper secret though, don't tell anyone.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-03 07:04:56
People have figured out you can hax0r the bitzers and get them to warp you to any boss room you want. Sending bad 0x5Cs works on almost anything that teleports you and that's extremely well known. It's a little less likely to get you actioned than just POS warping, but it's not any faster. Don't think that's sufficient.
Even if you can stomp through the bosses half hour, cleaving 50k in the remaining time to reach 120k shouldn't be possible. You'd have to clear all of (E or F), G, and H 3x each (after 2 respawns, they stop giving galli) and get a couple chests to boot. Maybe if the entire team has speed and you have a couple cleavers, but you'd still need a fast setup for Aminon.
Then, you end up back at the original premise: If you're doing it to reduce the number of total runs/time spent in sortie, it is still silly. May as well just get the easy 70k from bosses and leave, rather than make it a full hour painfully cleaving out 50k more.
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By Kaffy 2025-07-03 07:15:09
What this person wants is a slew of people to get on their knees, capitulate to his wealth of secret knowledge, lick his boots and sing his praises for such a groundbreaking, miraculous discovery, and engage in an endless stream of niceties.[/b]
Not seeing this at all. I mean clearly he wants to share, but also has mixed feelings about the outcome, and its easy to understand why. No need to jump on his case just because he didn't reveal everything from the first post. Skepticism is good, if you don't believe 130k is possible that's perfectly fine. Assuming he's only in it for the attention is kinda dumb though.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-03 07:18:15
Not seeing this at all. I mean clearly he wants to share, but also has mixed feelings about the outcome, and its easy to understand why. I don't think this is the case. If he had mixed feelings about the outcome, there'd be no reason to hint at it. If it's something like boss respawning, the hint is enough for someone to figure it out and then it's public and getting patched either way.
If it's more trivial like aggressive warp/speed use, there's not really anything to share, because people already know these exist. Hundreds if not thousands are aware you can manipulate 0x5Cs to warp a little bit safer than POS, but everyone knows POS is a thing. So, what would he want to share? That he's pretty good at speedhack cleaving?
By K123 2025-07-03 07:19:22
I wonder what the highest automated sortie runs are pulling in galli now. 10-15k at most I bet. I'd take that over dealing with other humans until needing mesondrite though.
By Kaffy 2025-07-03 07:20:58
there is literally 0 travel time with the available tools. once you get your shards you can instantly enter a boss arena from anywhere in the zone. doing 8 bosses in under 30min should be no trouble at all.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-03 07:23:40
I wonder what the highest automated sortie runs are pulling in galli now. 10-15k at most I bet. I'd take that over dealing with other humans until needing mesondrite though.
Hard to know what people have coded and kept to themselves, but I doubt it's that low. It's definitely possible for someone writing code specifically for this use to do 9boss automatically, but it's a tall order. OTOH, 6 or 8 boss wouldn't be that difficult, so I'd be shocked if there isn't already someone pulling 40-50k automatically. Wouldn't really be surprised if there's someone doing a full 9boss, though.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2025-07-03 07:25:58
You guys really don't know the secret? God everybody knows the secret.
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By K123 2025-07-03 07:29:21
I wonder what the highest automated sortie runs are pulling in galli now. 10-15k at most I bet. I'd take that over dealing with other humans until needing mesondrite though.
Hard to know what people have coded and kept to themselves, but I doubt it's that low. It's definitely possible for someone writing code specifically for this use to do 9boss automatically, but it's a tall order. OTOH, 6 or 8 boss wouldn't be that difficult, so I'd be shocked if there isn't already someone pulling 40-50k automatically. Wouldn't really be surprised if there's someone doing a full 9boss, though. 8 boss if ABCD EG sure, the chances of F going awry are quite high if you are not reacting. Unless kiting with PLD I guess.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-03 07:29:22
there is literally 0 travel time with the available tools. once you get your shards you can instantly enter a boss arena from anywhere in the zone. doing 8 bosses in under 30min should be no trouble at all.
Yea, the trouble is pulling 60k from cleaves and trash in the remaining 30 min to get to 130k. Every single trash mob in EFGH killed 3x totals around 60,102 [each mob can spawn in a 3 level range, I used the galli value from the middle level]. With the other coffers and some naakual involvement, you should be able to skip E or F, but that's still full cleaving 9 downstairs areas. You'd have to clear each area in 3 minutes. It's a very tall order, but probably possible with aggressive and coordinated speed use by multiple cleavers to gather mobs quickly.
Like I said, if that is how he's doing it, what is there to share? Using warps or 0x5C manipulation to get to bosses quickly is extremely well known. Cleaves and other coffers existing is also well known. I can't see what he could possibly be hinting at besides that he wants attention.
By Dodik 2025-07-03 07:29:31
Susuroon know secret. Want tell? You give shinies.
By K123 2025-07-03 07:29:51
You guys really don't know the secret? God everybody knows the secret. DOES ARAGAN KNOW THIS SECRET?
SOME BLOW THE ARAGAN HORN, WE NEED SECRETS NOW!!
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By Kaffy 2025-07-03 07:51:45
Sorry for the misconception, but yes, this is not "legit". It is exploiting a bug I discovered within Sortie around December-January, and was running daily getting about 110k~120k until I quit last month.
We can speculate all day long, but I took this phrasing to mean he found something less commonly known than the warp hacks everyone uses. I'm definitely curious, like him I ended up enjoying breaking the game more than actually playing it, and I didn't develop any tools of my own, just used what was out there.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-03 08:12:42
No one cares about this clown blowing smoke
Look at this good boy or girl balancing a treat on his nose and catching it
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-07-03 08:22:05
Buy Sortie muffins, use code BR74 for 130k. c0me 0n
By Kaffy 2025-07-03 08:28:22
The real entertainment is seeing people you know get outed for using NASA or banned duping Salvage, etc. No fun to be had knowing behind closed doors someone is making tons more gall/run than you.
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By Caitsith.Sepo 2025-07-03 08:34:24
Dodik actually figured it out lol, for the most part.
It isn't really a secret. In fact, I'm surprised no one has thought to try doing this (or maybe there are people out there doing it and they just don't have such a big mouth lol).
But yeah, I spoke to some nicer people here and I think I'm going to actually release it. It's a bit complicated though, and to be honest, utilizing the bug is only just a part of it-- it still needs some specific gear prep, a bit of skill, and a bit of execution.
I'll see if I can post a video of an example run sometime this month. I'm just a bit busy with work but it shouldn't be too difficult to gather up all my notes and what not.
This was just way too cool to just let this die with only me, and the fact that an astonishing amount of people are still having trouble even comprehending the possibility of 130k is also pretty interesting. I'm really just a noob and have probably been playing this game a fraction of how long others on here have been and have likely only a fraction of game knowledge as well, so I didn't really think it would be that inconceivable. I guess everyone will have to see it for themselves. Sorry for keeping everyone on the edge of their seat with all this hot air, it'll be over soon.
'please look forward to it'
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By Asura.Reidden 2025-07-03 08:38:15
Since this clown wants to post his accomplishments, I did a D sheet formor clear in 50 minutes running at normal speed the whole god damn time cuz of a pug person. Please do not let me do this ever again.
By K123 2025-07-03 08:41:07
In before he disappears for a few months again.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-03 08:42:37
Dex called it immediately:
Nice abuse of superwarp/silmaril warp and tako, really unorthodox
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-03 08:43:58
Heres Chucky!
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-07-03 08:46:11
I wish he didnt delete the original post. It was comedy gold
Also; I'm unsubbed so I guess I'll share suddenly turned into "I'll upload a video".
Doubt he resubs just to show himself exploiting already sus 3rd party tools to begin with to do something both even more sus And unnecessary
Still has the pompous attitude to say things like "the fact that an astonishing amount of people are still having trouble even comprehending the possibility of 130k is also pretty interesting. I'm really just a noob and have probably been playing this game a fraction of how long others on here have been and have likely only a fraction of game knowledge as well, so I didn't really think it would be that inconceivable." is laughable
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-07-03 08:50:47
0% chance this man ever posts a video of this run. I'll post a video of eating my own *** if he posts a full video of a 130k muffin sortie run. Just the tip for 120k+
Lol at "specific gear prep" he's also found new gearing ideas nobody's ever thought of! They only work with taco runs guys. Really thinking outside the box here. 4d chess.
I also love how there's "a little bit of execution."
This run includes all 9 bosses in record time, plus coordinating teleporting around all the basements, multiple times, then sleeping/tanking/cleaving all of the mobs in each basement, many of which cast. Probably requires a bit of execution. I'm also curious how you prevent mobs like the Dullahan, Pixie, etc. from absolutely wrecking your ***while you're cleaving them. It's gotta be an INSANELY creative setup to cleave all these mobs while you're also set up to kill all 9 bosses.
It's incomprehensibly, stupidly difficult. Way more difficult than "oh, just do 9 boss and then spend the other 30 minutes cleaving." You're cleaving mobs with Grim Halo, Villainous Rebuke, Atramentous Libations, Spring Breeze, Cyclonic Turmoil, etc.
Oh, and you need to pull all of them into one spot, including ALL THE WAY from the start to the back of the furthest back room, and kill them. In about 3 minutes total. 9 times in a row. After doing your 9 boss run.
A little bit of execution. Not too tough for this old man though, he can pull it off.
Also keep in mind, you need to find 5 other morons who want to risk their accounts doing the dumbest cheating in the history of FFXI. There's no chance someone is 6-boxing this and BEYOND no chance that this moron wrote a bot to do it.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-07-03 09:01:34
You know those instagram videos where they talk about weight loss or muscle gain
And it’s like 6 minutes long of “this one simple trick doctors won’t tell you. It changed my life. And I want to change yours. That’s why I’m finally sharing this with the world. The thing is, doctors won’t tell you about it. But it’s so simple that I promise anyone can do it - that’s how I did it, and it honestly changed my life
And they just keep repeating and reordering the lines forever until you’re in some weird watch time engagement farm? Or finally you get hit with a paywall and I guess you’re supposed to feel so invested at the point that you just pay for it
That’s what this feels like
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-07-03 09:27:29
Quote: You know those instagram videos where they talk about weight loss or muscle gain
And it’s like 6 minutes long of “this one simple trick doctors won’t tell you. It changed my life. And I want to change yours. That’s why I’m finally sharing this with the world. The thing is, doctors won’t tell you about it. But it’s so simple that I promise anyone can do it - that’s how I did it, and it honestly changed my life
And they just keep repeating and reordering the lines forever until you’re in some weird watch time engagement farm? Or finally you get hit with a paywall and I guess you’re supposed to feel so invested at the point that you just pay for it
That’s what this feels like
I'm pretty sure most of those are created by AI nowadays. That's exactly how AI media output always sounds.
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