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By soralin 2025-06-13 01:49:29
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It really looks to me like the plan is to later add augments to the gear

Limbus v3 is too... empty atm to make sense, I have gotta assume their plan is to add more to it at a later date and this is just something to tide us over while they work on adding bosses.

It's gonna be a lot like Oddessey I think, where you then have a long grind to R25 up the relic and af gear
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By K123 2025-06-13 03:11:47
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Caitsith.Sepo said: »
I'm doing 110-120k a run but I'm not going to tell you how, ner ner ner ner ner
Sounds legit
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-06-13 04:15:32
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Caitsith.Sepo said: »
I don't think most people will believe me but I am now pulling between 110-120k galli per run, using a completely unorthodox strategy for the mid-run section while still doing all boss sections with the usual standard strats (Aminon dnc, kite Aita/Gartell, etc).

Nice abuse of superwarp/silmaril warp and tako, really unorthodox
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By Asura.Shiraj 2025-06-13 04:28:23
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Caitsith.Sepo said: »
Eventually, I started experimenting, just doing insanely silly routes, going into sectors and doing objectives no one had ever talked about. I started progressing even farther-- 90k, then 95k, then 100k per run.

I don't think most people will believe me but I am now pulling between 110-120k galli per run, using a completely unorthodox strategy for the mid-run section while still doing all boss sections with the usual standard strats (Aminon dnc, kite Aita/Gartell, etc).
Dis you?

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By Draylo 2025-06-13 04:52:30
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Lol we doing this again
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By Dodik 2025-06-13 06:55:04
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By K123 2025-06-13 07:23:43
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Draylo said: »
Lol we doing this again
Yes, I want to do this.

This guy is talking bs as if he says he is running legit and getting 120k a run.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-06-13 07:25:53
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Even if they're not lying, I will never understand why people are so willing to risk their entire character to get a marginal increase in Sortie. If you plan to upgrade multiple or a ton of primes, the odds get pretty high that whatever nonsense you're doing is eventually going to get you banned. Then, you go back to zero.

You're still gated by psyche anyway. A 80k run 5 days a week is 1714k a month. Stage 5s are the highest galli/timegate ratio and only use 1416k a month. If you hate the event so much that you just want to be done with it faster, it's already time to quit. Cheating your way to a prime isn't going to make the rest of the game better.

Obviously it's easy to do 9/9 and still have time to speedhack/aoe/respawn/whatever if you're warping from one boss straight to the next. It's not imagination, exploration, and most importantly-- innovation, it's common sense with a side of cheating.
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By Kaffy 2025-06-13 07:50:23
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was easy for me to fall into that mindset, then I realized that if I used every tool available to cheat, I probably didn't enjoy the game as much as I thought I did. FFXI is literally the only game I've ever played where I spent so much time writing luas, configuring bots and addons, etc. and not actually playing the game.

I guess one part for me that is different than others is that I was never very attached to any particular character. I made upwards of 30-40 over the game's history. Alienated a few LS mates restarting over and over, but never bothered me if I lost an account.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-06-13 07:55:57
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Kaffy said: »
I made upwards of 30-40 over the game's history. Alienated a few LS mates restarting over and over, but never bothered me if I lost an account.

I can relate to that, especially in the lv75 days. But, there were real gains to be made by cheating a lot of the time. For example, soloing boroka/heliodromos by posing back and forth to get shadows. Huge gil for little effort.

The gains in Sortie are almost nonexistant. If you hate the content, cheating so you only have to spend 75 hours doing it for a prime instead of 107 hours just seems silly. You shouldn't be doing it at all. If you don't hate the content, then what's the difference? You're still waiting on the time gate, you just have added risk of being sent back to start.
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By Shichishito 2025-06-13 08:18:36
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People who put alot of time and effort into something get more attached to it than people who don't, who would have thought that.
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By Kaffy 2025-06-13 08:25:48
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fair, but time and effort is relative. can get to 8boss sortie and v20 ody within 3 months of account creation. most of the stuff people get attached to is the memories, not the pixels.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-13 08:27:59
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Even if they're not lying, I will never understand why people are so willing to risk their entire character to get a marginal increase in Sortie. If you plan to upgrade multiple or a ton of primes, the odds get pretty high that whatever nonsense you're doing is eventually going to get you banned. Then, you go back to zero.

You're still gated by psyche anyway. A 80k run 5 days a week is 1714k a month. Stage 5s are the highest galli/timegate ratio and only use 1416k a month. If you hate the event so much that you just want to be done with it faster, it's already time to quit. Cheating your way to a prime isn't going to make the rest of the game better.

Obviously it's easy to do 9/9 and still have time to speedhack/aoe/respawn/whatever if you're warping from one boss straight to the next. It's not imagination, exploration, and most importantly-- innovation, it's common sense with a side of cheating.

There isn't any PVP ladder system so this is the only way they can beat other players.
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By soralin 2025-06-13 08:52:11
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Kaffy said: »
was easy for me to fall into that mindset, then I realized that if I used every tool available to cheat, I probably didn't enjoy the game as much as I thought I did. FFXI is literally the only game I've ever played where I spent so much time writing luas, configuring bots and addons, etc. and not actually playing the game.

I guess one part for me that is different than others is that I was never very attached to any particular character. I made upwards of 30-40 over the game's history. Alienated a few LS mates restarting over and over, but never bothered me if I lost an account.

This is straight up one of the major contributing reasons to how I got to where I am today, for work.

I realized it wasn't that I didn't enjoy ffxi. I do love it.

But I also realized coding is super fun too, and decided to pursue that deeper.

Now I do it for a living so I can slowly become bitter and hate the thing I used to love, wheee

But for real ffxi really was a critical catalyst in me pulling myself out of a pretty bad funk when I was 18, many many years ago, and writing programs/etc for it was pretty big for me finding something to be passionate about.
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-06-13 08:52:25
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There is only so much efficiency you can get out of a sortie run.

  • You get 1 hour to do the event.

  • It takes a set amount of time to run from any given point A to point B with bolter's roll

  • The most efficient routs has been mapped out. Most groups agree that farming KI's for ABCD at start and going D -> H --> A -> B --> C --> G --> F --> E --> Aminon is the shortest and most efficient rout

  • It takes roughly the same amount of time to kill each boss NM every run, and the pre farming takes roughly the same amount of time each run.



If your group is consistent then you will have minimal variance in the amount of time it takes you to complete the objectives and get to aminon. My group has been doing 9 boss sortie for a few years regularly. We have about a 3-5 minute variance in the amount of time it takes us to get to the later objectives, depending on individual run circumstances. Bitzer placements, aggro, accidental mess ups on individual objectives, buff cycles getting messed up, accidental deaths.... they all contribute to some runs being slightly faster or slower. But its all within a tight time limit nonetheless.

We get our 9 bosses, and often the 4 mini bosses on the lower floor. We occasionally have time to clear one set of naaks if things went smoothly and we're ahead of time. That nets around 85K galla a run, which is already more galla than you need if you go regularly to meet the monthly psyche timegate. I'm quite familiar with what it takes to complete all the objectives. So when I see this.

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Eventually, I started experimenting, just doing insanely silly routes, going into sectors and doing objectives no one had ever talked about. I started progressing even farther-- 90k, then 95k, then 100k per run.

I don't think most people will believe me but I am now pulling between 110-120k galli per run, using a completely unorthodox strategy for the mid-run section while still doing all boss sections with the usual standard strats (Aminon dnc, kite Aita/Gartell, etc).

You're right, I don't believe you. I call bullocks. The only way you're pulling numbers like that is if you're either warp hacking, speed hacking, abusing a bug, or doing something else that's not supposed to be part of the event which is likely to get you banned if s-e ever finds out about it. There simply isn't enough time in the run to get that much extra stuff accomplished through normal gameplay.
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By soralin 2025-06-13 10:50:43
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It's not like galli is some kind of zero sum game, where if another group learns your tech it cuts into your profits right?

Why not just... record a video and post it as proof, assuming you aren't cheating or abusing a bug.

If you are abusing a bug, well... so were people who claimed they knew the hest way to farm salvage eons ago... and we all outta know how that played out lol.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-13 10:52:54
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Dudes probably poshacking and fleehacking around to minimize travel time and spend more time farming extra stuff.

Theres no secret objectives that no one knows about.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-06-13 10:55:05
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I just don't do sortie. Events a joke.
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2025-06-13 12:48:03
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soralin said: »
It's not like galli is some kind of zero sum game, where if another group learns your tech it cuts into your profits right?

Why not just... record a video and post it as proof, assuming you aren't cheating or abusing a bug.

If you are abusing a bug, well... so were people who claimed they knew the hest way to farm salvage eons ago... and we all outta know how that played out lol.

Anybody else feeling nostalgic for Neo-Nyzul threads
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-06-13 13:23:48
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Oh no he deleted the post! What am I going to look at to laugh once a day now
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By Moonlightagb 2025-06-13 13:50:21
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I hope they remembered to update Regal Earring and +4 AF set bonus compatibility
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By Loftwyn 2025-06-13 14:00:18
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Should be able to check using checkparam
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By Moonlightagb 2025-06-13 14:26:41
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Good call, tested with check param and Accuracy with Regal Earring completing the AF set bonus went up +15 as expected, works.
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By Taint 2025-06-13 14:51:57
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Where would the mysterious 35k Galli even come from?

Our group is 98% Optimized with no speed hacks and end up in the mid 80s if everything goes right.

I know people do 2 sets of Naaks (I can't fathom how :p) but even with that you aren't even to 90k. Where would the 30k even come from? Even if you pos hacked the whole event you'd be stuck farming NQ mobs and with an Aminon setup you don't exactly have great cleave jobs. Its a lie.
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By SimonSes 2025-06-13 15:18:13
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Taint said: »
Where would the mysterious 35k Galli even come from?

Our group is 98% Optimized with no speed hacks and end up in the mid 80s if everything goes right.

I know people do 2 sets of Naaks (I can't fathom how :p) but even with that you aren't even to 90k. Where would the 30k even come from? Even if you pos hacked the whole event you'd be stuck farming NQ mobs and with an Aminon setup you don't exactly have great cleave jobs. Its a lie.

Not really true about cleave.
You have pld to pull, RDM for phalanx 2. DNC, RDM and BRD has strong Aeolian and you have geo for malaise. This is very strong cleave setup. I can see that 35k if you pos hack everywhere and use taco for speed hacking pulls.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-13 15:19:31
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You can rematerialize minis on floor level and basement. I don't know how much galli you can get from reduced mobs after a few times, but maybe he found some exploit to rematerialize like Leech without being near the bitzer, and just kill it nonstop. Whatever it is, bragging about being able to cheat and earn more galli, and in the same sentence say that you're not a very skilled player, is one of the weirdest flexes I have ever seen. Just begging for attention.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-13 16:10:16
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Asura.Melliny said: »
You're right, I don't believe you. I call bullocks. The only way you're pulling numbers like that is if you're either warp hacking, speed hacking, abusing a bug, or doing something else that's not supposed to be part of the event which is likely to get you banned if s-e ever finds out about it. There simply isn't enough time in the run to get that much extra stuff accomplished through normal gameplay.

It's warp hacking from crystal to crystal. The way it works is you do the whole split + KI acquire then gather at D boss and kill him. Afterwards you just POS hack to each of the crystals and never even bother putting on sneak, invis, bolters or moving around. People doing this can save something like 20+ minutes from a run and spend it farming points elsewhere.
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By Kaffy 2025-06-13 16:16:52
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my guess is that the only reason the server never desyncs you is that each bitzer resets the detection by declaring a legit warp. otherwise you'd eventually get a 4006 kick for either pos or speed+.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-13 16:46:19
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Kaffy said: »
my guess is that the only reason the server never desyncs you is that each bitzer resets the detection by declaring a legit warp. otherwise you'd eventually get a 4006 kick for either pos or speed+.

As long as your not moving around then yes, crystal to crystal then activates a transition warp. I know of several crews that do this and brag about how "easy" it is to get points. While I'm not against cheating along the lines of "drive as fast as you can afford", bragging about cheating is rather, distasteful.
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