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By Dodik 2025-06-12 07:26:20
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I once worked for a place that did anti-social things on the internet - I say anti-social because no one used it.

The CEO tasked a bunch of interns to censor certain words.

They censored "*c*n*".

CEO started shouting asking why all the "can of beer" ads were being censored and why the word "can't" is being censored.
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By Pantafernando 2025-06-12 07:34:17
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What is this?

A fable?
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By Dodik 2025-06-12 07:37:06
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Lesson of the day - don't expect AI to do much better at moderating than humans.
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-06-12 08:16:56
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Anyone getting an abnormal amount of "connection lost" with a black screen? And sometimes it lets you log back in.

For what it's worth, s-e ran into a brief service interruption with game data centers for NA clients last night. It didn't affect everyone, nor was it only FFXI, and it was short lasted. I got disconnected from final fantasy 14 with a lobby server connection error twice around the same time. My guess is that some infrastructure went down somewhere and someone noticed and restored services in a timely fashion.
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2025-06-12 08:24:01
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Draylo said: »
Anyone getting an abnormal amount of "connection lost" with a black screen? And sometimes it lets you log back in.

Is Spectrum your isp?
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2025-06-12 08:41:11
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Kaffy said: »
I don't disagree about people reporting your posts Radial, but come the *** on. You waited 15 years to complain about a wiki and singled out Funkworkz for some reason. You also did it here, on a site that also uses data mining to populate the item database and uses tools to get AH sales history.

All of this discontent when the game already displayed the stats of every upgraded piece of armor from the very beginning.

As for the event itself, there are a few nuances, but the entire thing is boiled down to kill trash, get points. Not much to discover, yet.

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Community sites and reddit subs should be where players come to ask questions and get this information, a wiki page instantly posting everything day 1 just dumbs everything down and destroys the community aspect of the game.

Why doesn't wiki qualify as a community site in your mind? Literally exists because players ask questions and share information. Maybe you have a grudge against BG, I have no idea.

My thought is nobody is forcing anyone to read this thread or to open the update page on bg. If you do not want to get items spoiled, simply don't look at it.
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-06-12 08:46:52
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We've had data mining threads since before abyssea released. The data mining itself only shows the items and doesn't spoil the in game experiences. The game is 22 years old and on the verge of death. And to top it all off, the stats from this thread are shown via the in game client by talking to the NPC. Why are we even having this discussion?
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-12 09:14:18
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Sylph.Funkworkz said: »
Kaffy said: »
I don't disagree about people reporting your posts Radial, but come the *** on. You waited 15 years to complain about a wiki and singled out Funkworkz for some reason. You also did it here, on a site that also uses data mining to populate the item database and uses tools to get AH sales history.

All of this discontent when the game already displayed the stats of every upgraded piece of armor from the very beginning.

As for the event itself, there are a few nuances, but the entire thing is boiled down to kill trash, get points. Not much to discover, yet.

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Community sites and reddit subs should be where players come to ask questions and get this information, a wiki page instantly posting everything day 1 just dumbs everything down and destroys the community aspect of the game.

Why doesn't wiki qualify as a community site in your mind? Literally exists because players ask questions and share information. Maybe you have a grudge against BG, I have no idea.

My thought is nobody is forcing anyone to read this thread or to open the update page on bg. If you do not want to get items spoiled, simply don't look at it.

Normally when people complain about QoL stuff like that it boils down to "stop having fun" or "your having fun wrong".
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By Phoenix.Madotsuki 2025-06-12 09:29:43
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Flaming Crush temperature hot-take... I think I like the green +4 item borders. :) Hoping +5 (if it happens) is purple or red, though. Never was a fan of the yellow +3, to be honest...!

While sharing many others' sentiments about the upgrades being pretty nominal, this seems like some neat content to return to and give a spin after being away for a couple years!
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-06-12 09:45:10
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Everything in FFXI has been blurple lately. It would only be fitting that the final JSE upgrades also had blurple borders...

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SE dev: Sir, what color should we make the final JSE borders to show the playerbase how strong this gear is?
SE Lead dev: Just make it the ugliest shade of purple you can come up with, some mix between nyame and malignance is a good place to start. That speaks raw POWER! They'll know how amazing this stuff is just from looking at it. Just so long as its really really reeeeeallly ugly. That's the important part.
SE dev: Brilliant!
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-12 09:59:21
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Asura.Melliny said: »
Everything in FFXI has been blurple lately. It would only be fitting that the final JSE upgrades also had blurple borders...

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SE dev: Sir, what color should we make the final JSE borders to show the playerbase how strong this gear is?
SE Lead dev: Just make it the ugliest shade of purple you can come up with, some mix between nyame and malignance is a good place to start. That speaks raw POWER! They'll know how amazing this stuff is just from looking at it. Just so long as its really really reeeeeallly ugly. That's the important part.
SE dev: Brilliant!

Equipment's power is inversely related to how good it looks.
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-06-12 10:29:31
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Equipment's power is inversely related to how good it looks.

Not in classic JRPG's. You know the old trope. For female warrior type characters the more revealing the armor is the higher the defense value must be! That chainmail bikini from the early dragon quest eras probably had one of the highest defensive ratings available.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-12 11:11:11
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Asura.Melliny said: »
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Equipment's power is inversely related to how good it looks.

Not in classic JRPG's. You know the old trope. For female warrior type characters the more revealing the armor is the higher the defense value must be! That chainmail bikini from the early dragon quest eras probably had one of the highest defensive ratings available.

Revealing =/= good looks, though I agree with your point.

I'm talking about how the best stats for gear ends up with you looking like a clown.





https://tropedia.fandom.com/wiki/Rainbow_Pimp_Gear
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By Lakshmi.Sahzi 2025-06-12 11:31:22
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Matching armor ratings make complete sense to me.





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By Fenrir.Brimstonefox 2025-06-12 15:08:37
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At least there's no subligar worth wearing.
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By Tarage 2025-06-12 15:10:25
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I am impressed with Radial's ability to be told he's wrong by EVERYONE and STILL insist he is actually correct. I wish I had half that blind self confidence and obliviousness.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-06-12 15:56:43
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The concept isn't wrong the audience is.

He's talking to achievers who have never had an original thought in their entire lives, thinking they're explorers.

Always know your audience.
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By Asura.Sensarity 2025-06-12 17:08:21
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This thread needs further derailment
How will neo limbus affect the price of ABCs in horizon? Will Draylo weigh in?
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-06-12 17:14:37
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Trick question as Horizon only has endgame up to fetching Millioncorn for a sheep farmer
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By Draylo 2025-06-12 17:15:48
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Bahamut.Boposhopo said: »
Draylo said: »
Anyone getting an abnormal amount of "connection lost" with a black screen? And sometimes it lets you log back in.

Is Spectrum your isp?

I'm on verizon fios, but it seems to always be the same character which is Draylo... none of the others. It just says "connection timed out" then i click ok, and sometimes it lets me log back in. A lot of times it happens after a whole night, I will turn my monitor on and the game is fine, then im watching youtube and look back and it timed out only on Draylo. Wonder if its addon related.
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By K123 2025-06-12 18:10:35
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Draylo said: »
Bahamut.Boposhopo said: »
Draylo said: »
Anyone getting an abnormal amount of "connection lost" with a black screen? And sometimes it lets you log back in.

Is Spectrum your isp?

I'm on verizon fios, but it seems to always be the same character which is Draylo... none of the others. It just says "connection timed out" then i click ok, and sometimes it lets me log back in. A lot of times it happens after a whole night, I will turn my monitor on and the game is fine, then im watching youtube and look back and it timed out only on Draylo. Wonder if its addon related.
All you do is stand in the same spot for weeks on end, so what does it matter?
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By Draylo 2025-06-12 18:25:04
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Are you watching me for weeks on end? That's a little creepy dude
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By K123 2025-06-12 18:28:00
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Draylo said: »
Are you watching me for weeks on end? That's a little creepy dude
You were afk at Omen entry area in the same spot for weeks.
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By Tarage 2025-06-12 18:54:28
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
The concept isn't wrong the audience is.

He's talking to achievers who have never had an original thought in their entire lives, thinking they're explorers.

Always know your audience.

Again, I cite FFXIV 1.0 as a direct refuting of your ***.
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By Asura.Haxetc 2025-06-12 19:03:36
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Tarage said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
The concept isn't wrong the audience is.

He's talking to achievers who have never had an original thought in their entire lives, thinking they're explorers.

Always know your audience.

Again, I cite FFXIV 1.0 as a direct refuting of your ***.
You don't even need to cite 1.0. The current XIV has datamined for ages. And in that case it's a competitive advantage. Looking up Zones for Raids, Text dialogs, Move lists, etc. It's just accepted as is ACT and other addons that are used. It's just a few people whining about datamining. Just ignore them and move on. It happens in literally every MMO that doesn't full post what's available on patch.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-06-12 19:26:17
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It is not game specific, it is year specific.

No one wants to explore anything anywhere anymore. They just want to know what they're doing is going to be to get something better than they had.

Wonder and imagination is dead, ruthlessly murdered by efficiency.

And if that's your jam, you're not alone. It's everyones now.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-06-12 19:31:35
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
It is not game specific, it is year specific.

No one wants to explore anything anywhere anymore. They just want to know what they're doing is going to be to get something better than they had.

Wonder and imagination is dead, ruthlessly murdered by efficiency.

And if that's your jam, you're not alone. It's everyones now.
except me! wait, Eiryl's exactly right. it IS year specific and wonder and imagination ARE dead to younger players.

THIS is what WoW changed in a paradigm shift that Chanti was talking about. Turned RP into getgetget.
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By Tarage 2025-06-12 21:00:28
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
It is not game specific, it is year specific.

No one wants to explore anything anywhere anymore. They just want to know what they're doing is going to be to get something better than they had.

Wonder and imagination is dead, ruthlessly murdered by efficiency.

And if that's your jam, you're not alone. It's everyones now.

The solution is literally "just don't look, idiot".
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By Asura.Illuminate 2025-06-13 00:37:52
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I'm still trying to convince myself that somehow this is just one huge mistake and they're going to do an update to fix the garbage they just gave us as +4 AF and relics.

How long ago did Omen and Dynamis D come out? They've had all those years to think about the gear, and this is what we get? Please let this all be just one big mistake.

lol
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