DD WHM Onion Sword III For Segs Etc.

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DD WHM Onion Sword III for segs etc.
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By Lili 2025-06-02 13:58:16
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Asura.Ayahuasca said: »
Like seriously, what is your point in this?

The point is not "your idea is bad", the point is "you don't need Onion Sword III to enact your idea". It's exactly the kind of feedback you asked for.
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By Genoxd 2025-06-02 14:02:25
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Thank you for trying out something odd, it helps me get a sense for what it can do on random jobs.

That said what Simon posted is also extremely valuable. I don't think he's attacking you at all. He's just being realistic on the value which is also helpful.

I'm still debating between staff or this sword for SMN. Both are horrible options but this at least gives me some realistic numbers to work with
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By Godfry 2025-06-02 14:22:05
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Asura.Ayahuasca said: »
Like seriously, what is your point in this? You're not adding anything useful, nor interesting to the discussion, just negative anti-hype bs. Is it because it's not "meta"? Lemme tell u one thing that it seems many of u often forget, WE PLAY THIS GAME FOR FUN.

Asura.Ayahuasca said: »
If you don't wanna add constructive criticism to this post, i'd ask you to look somewhere else. This kind of attitude is also part of the problem why ffxi community can't have nice things while remaining stuck with a playerbase full of parrots and meta sheeps parroting what other ppl told em.

I don't think you are looking to have fun, here. You are looking for validation. If you were trying to have fun you would go, use the weapon and composition of your choosing and move on.

Also, what's with the mate hating BS? You either provide a solid alternative to the meta or just stfu about it. Why are people so desperate to be different they want to propose ***like WHM Onion Sword? You know what people love about WHM? A really good WHM that keeps the PT alive while reacting super fast to disaster.

When I thought that bringing a piercing-based job to a slashing fight wasn't stupid enough, people propose WHM DD because OmIOn SoWRd fAT BRAde.

I make my own segfarm PT and I usually incentive my friends to come whatever job they want. Something doesn't need to be effective to be fun. If our healer wants to come Fast Blade 2 to segfarm, we can get 8k segs and be fine with it. What we shouldn't do is pretend that this monstrosity is at all effective.

Btw, I have nothing against you or your post. I'm just posting hateful content to farm likes from the old (hateful, condescending, passive-aggressive) farts around here.
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By Dodik 2025-06-02 14:25:21
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By Shichishito 2025-06-02 14:27:25
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I'd also like to see more flexiblity in party compositions and stratgies.
I'm afraid between time gated content with limited accesiblity, content generally designed to take longer than what's considered the sweet spot these days and people getting old and have less time and patience for anything suboptimal we not going to see it.

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Godfry said: »
If you were trying to have fun you would go, use the weapon and composition of your choosing and move on.
I for one appreciate any info regarding bonanza weapons so I'm glad if he posts about it here.
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By Godfry 2025-06-02 14:41:59
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Shichishito said: »
I for one appreciate any info regarding bonanza weapons so I'm glad if he posts about it here.

Not criticizing that at all. I was making a point about the attitude. Also, I don't think that creating the idea that backline needs to DD a good one.

Healers need to be good at keeping party alive, quickly removing debuffs etc. If a healer is sick of healing they can jump on a DD and go do some damage.

This is just like tanks trying to be high on parse while neglecting their role in the party. As a tank, I like to keep hate, good position and help the healer keep the party alive as much as I can. If I can pop a WS here and there, good. But you know what's better? Allowing my front-line to go glass-canon cause they trust I will keep them alive.

Playing your role effectively is not meta, it's RPG.
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By SimonSes 2025-06-02 16:13:32
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This will be closer to realistic FBII damage with WHM/NIN in segments run. I mean kinda, I think I set accuracy requirements too low, because I can't find the post with sheol C mobs stats.

Soul Voice Honor, Aria, Minuet V/IV, Madrigal | Chaos roll | Diaga | TP bonus offhand:

Nyame is R30

Marcato Honor, Aria, Minuet V/IV, Madrigal | Chaos roll | Diaga | TP bonus offhand:

Nyame is R30
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-02 16:25:39
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This might be the Sheol C evasion numbers for mobs in yellow.



https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/55734/odyssey-segment-farming/3/#3568019
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By K123 2025-06-02 16:30:17
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Shichishito said: »
I'd also like to see more flexiblity in party compositions and stratgies.
Honestly, at this point, I wish they'd just let us Fell Cleave/AE or even AoE magic kill them down to save us the time doing the event. It still requires running around and pulling sets, just less spamming engage and WS macro.
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By Godfry 2025-06-02 16:40:27
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SimonSes said: »
This will be closer to realistic FBII damage with WHM/NIN in segments run. I mean kinda, I think I set accuracy requirements too low, because I can't find the post with sheol C mobs stats.

Soul Voice Honor, Aria, Minuet V/IV, Madrigal | Chaos roll | Diaga | TP bonus offhand:

Nyame is R30

Marcato Honor, Aria, Minuet V/IV, Madrigal | Chaos roll | Diaga | TP bonus offhand:

Nyame is R30


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By K123 2025-06-02 16:48:42
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What's the best WS damage average for the best club WS?
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By SimonSes 2025-06-02 17:27:59
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K123 said: »
What's the best WS damage average for the best club WS?

Same scenario

Marcato:



SV:
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By K123 2025-06-02 17:30:51
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Suppose that answers that question then. Is KC>TP bonus club as offhand?
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By Nariont 2025-06-02 17:48:26
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If you were to kclub youd probably do better spamming randgrith with r15 mjoll
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By Ragnarok.Twinsevens 2025-06-04 13:29:40
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Just wanted to say thanks for doing some testing! I picked up OSIII for my WAR to have fun with, and will incorporate some of your findings in my own testing. It's very, very situational, but a handy tool to have in the toolbox when the situational situation calls for it.