Which Aeonics Are Job Changing?
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Which aeonics are job changing?
I know this is offtopic but I am currently modifying parse to work only with mob HP left. Doing some digging into mob HP in oddy to add to parse only the % of HP left in mob.
Phoenix.Capuchin said: » a lot of good stuff As usual Capuchin, a damn near Perfect Post. Everyone should be going back to read that if they're debating among the 4 aeonics you gave a quick writeup...not to mention loved the categorization at the end ;) You're no fun
I want another 10 pages of Naegling vs OS3
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With high DA rate and Aria on WAR the first hit of savage will kill basic mobs in ody C, but beastmen can take both hits always from 100% HP.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: » You're no fun I want another 10 pages of Naegling vs OS3 
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[43 days between previous and next post]K123 said: » Also I don't have Monberaux so not sure if that makes a difference for me, seems they do only Kasha>Rana>Shoha which is pretty bad damage. I'd love to know their kill time, must be like 20mins. Edit: Just checked and it is THIRTY MINUTES, *** that. That vids over a year old, I only had 52% WSD and I still have 0 Augmented Nyame :'( With my BRD Alt, I did it again this year for another Ammurappi and did it in 15 mins, still using Masamune R0. And yeah I don't really care about the resistance. So I just did 4-5 steps into Light. IIRC. Shoha -> Fudo -> Kasha -> Shoha -> Fudo. Sometimes I was lazy and did something with Ageha and Rana instead to spice things up. Yeah 15mins is still LONG, I have 2box at least 200 as BRD SAM and it takes between 5 and 8 minutes. Not sure how good your BRD is and I mean R15 Doji. Masa is a little slower, but shows the same damage on parser (impossible to use because of the weak WS skewing it).
Just checked a recording I made and it took 8mins with Masa R15. The video using Doji took 9minutes BUT!!! it used Benediction really early on the first and much later on the second (a big factor in how long it takes). Avaera said: » Why do you care how long the fight takes for other people? Is this a speedrun for GDQ? The initial context was that it took 30mins with Masa when it takes me a lot less with doji, in line with the THREAD TITLE. I don't care if you want to spend 30 minutes killing kei, or 15. FFXIAH: We love to argue over stupid ***.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: » I guess with an Ukon you can white damage it down enough to "1 shot it" but this is an aeonic thread so I don't feel that's super relevant With Ukon segment mobs are dead or almost dead, before you can one shot them, so I can see Chango taking them down enough finish with Upheaval. Taint said: » Same thing happens with K.Club DRGs, parse looks good but they aren't killing any faster. K. club DRG never WS trash mobs twice in segments unless its slashing resistant mob and you don't want to switch to polearm. You just learn at what TP threshold you one shot mobs on each floor and you build for that TP threshold to do exactly that.
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SimonSes said: » You just learn at what TP threshold you one shot mobs on each floor Have had to explain this so many times.
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SimonSes said: » Carbuncle.Maletaru said: » I guess with an Ukon you can white damage it down enough to "1 shot it" but this is an aeonic thread so I don't feel that's super relevant With Ukon segment mobs are dead or almost dead, before you can one shot them, so I can see Chango taking them down enough finish with Upheaval. Taint said: » Same thing happens with K.Club DRGs, parse looks good but they aren't killing any faster. K. club DRG never WS trash mobs twice in segments unless its slashing resistant mob and you don't want to switch to polearm. You just learn at what TP threshold you one shot mobs on each floor and you build for that TP threshold to do exactly that. I'm pretty they do it on purpose to fluff their parses. But yes they do. They probably don't know how to play kclub Savage DRG very well. It's more damage and much faster to hold TP and one-shot and move on to the next mob, vs WSing twice (longer delay) on the same mob. A lot of people still fire off TP every single time they get 1k, which is usually wrong in most scenarios.
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How does Sequence square up on Naegling, Excalibur, or Almace on paladin in terms of raw dps?
Almace I assume wins with AM3 up, but lets factor in the time to get AM3 up as well (IE for very fast content where you spend like 10% of the combat time getting AM3 up before you can even start going ham) Compared to Naeg/Excal/Sequence where you can just start going ham out of the gate (I don't think we'd care about setting up Sequence's aftermath intentionally? Or if we did, we'd do it via a multi step SC?) Note this is only with respect to content where Pld dps matters (so something like soloing HTMBs, solo farming sortie, soloing mastery levels, or just in general farming stuff on my own where my DPS is the only DPS) My Pld is almost always atk starved at everything so it makes more sense to use Naegling if I am using savage blade. Damage wise, I am not too sure if bringing and range attack would be a better choice or not
Almace is terrible because PLD's white damage is god awful, CDC is terrible, and DEX is not a good stat.
Excalibur similarly is bad, but not quite as bad. The only thing it offers that is of significant value is the ability to make Light SC reasonably easily with KOTR, otherwise it's not great. Sequence is commonly known as a meme weapon that nobody should make except if you already have all the other aeonics, or as a lockstyle. It's terrible. Requiescat is awful. Naegling is the clear winner in 99% of cases. The exception could be Excalibur for making multi-step lights etc. TBH I'm not sure if PLD can actually do that solo with trusts, but if you can swing the TP then that sounds fine. I wouldn't bother with the others. I can do three step SCs as paladin with excal, solo with trusts.
KOR->SB->KOR for double light, the last step is iffy and hinges on lucky procs, but I can reliably do the first light SC. |
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