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 Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-06-07 15:15:19
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One good thing about Limbus is you have to go through most of CoP to get there, so RMT won't be able to jump in with brand new characters and bot there forever. However, other players who do bot may be able to take advantage initially, unless SE is smart enough and puts a limit on how much you can fight.

Perhaps setting enemies at higher levels gives you a lower tally on how much you can kill in a session, while gaining more currency and examplars, but you gain nothing once you reach a daily cap. You'd still be allowed to kill enemies, which allows teaming up with others who are late and want to farm their caps. This would encourage team play, even if you've already finished for the day.
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By Dodik 2025-06-07 15:23:12
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You think if there's a cap people will go back in to help others?

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By Seun 2025-06-07 15:32:36
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Wwhat would your reason be for staying in the zone if you'd already capped your points? I feel like people are setting themselves up for disappointment if they're thinking the ML gains will be as good or better than what we have now.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-07 15:36:34
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ML gains in limbus being the same or better than any locus camp will invalidate all locus camps. Why go to Locus camps for EP when you can go to Limbus for the same or better EP and the limbumafry?

The only way it will be better is with a lockout timer, and judging how dyna, omen, sheol, sortie arent viable EP locations despite having zone timers, its highly unlikely.

Also the EP value is tied to mob level and your ML. Limbus mobs will have to be like 165+++ to be viable EP fodder with a ML50 in the group.
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By Nariont 2025-06-07 15:38:43
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Seun said: »
Wwhat would your reason be for staying in the zone if you'd already capped your points? I feel like people are setting themselves up for disappointment if they're thinking the ML gains will be as good or better than what we have now.

Well its speculation, even if it was Ody C level gains thats pretty respectable for ep gaining while you work on a piece/set, as said it could be a point usage cap instead of a point cap itself, and could very well have comparable ML grinding mobs.

Though if it is, then itll get botted to hell so thatll be its own can of worms that will be an annoying thing within 24 hrs
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-06-07 15:38:45
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Your being capped has no effect on your ability to sell party slots to everyone else.

But yes, the ML will be dogshit. No apex/locus multiplier. It'll be the same or worse than shoel... just more time to kill them. The same bad mob density, too.
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By Bahamut.Gorion 2025-06-07 15:56:32
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i hope it allows to upgrade relic weapons also , not just gear . similar to sortie but not exactly like it,
also maybe relic weapon skills will be allowed to be quested so they can be used with any weapon.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-06-07 16:07:41
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Dodik said: »
You think if there's a cap people will go back in to help others?


As a LS leader who likes helping others to get their stuff... Hell yes. The sooner everyone gets their +4s the better.

Edit: By the way, I was speculating a cap on the points needed to upgrade reforged AND exemplar points per day. The only one I'd care to stick around for would be the points to upgrade reforged. We can get Exemplar points elsewhere if needed. Even so, helping friends is a good thing.
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By SimonSes 2025-06-07 16:10:06
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Bahamut.Gorion said: »
i hope it allows to upgrade relic weapons also , not just gear . similar to sortie but not exactly like it

I mean, they wouldn't keep something like that secret and they haven't said anything about it, so probably definitely not.
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By Seun 2025-06-07 16:31:37
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Your being capped has no effect on your ability to sell party slots to everyone else.

The 24/7 entry conditions, the variable difficulty as well as their implicit statement about the content being solo-friendly make it sound like any cap would be reasonably obtainable.

I understand that you have a deeper connection to RMT than I do, but it doesn't strike me as the type of event that will be lucrative for mercs or RMT unless it's added later with NMs.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-06-07 16:36:43
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Remember that primes were said to be soloable, too.

And they are. Not with reasonable progression. But you could do it. (aside from aminon)
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By SimonSes 2025-06-07 16:38:39
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Remember that primes were said to be soloable, too.

Maybe there is some solo strategy for Aminon, that we havent figured out yet ;)
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By Seun 2025-06-07 16:39:37
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There is difference between being able to enter Sortie solo to make progress on empyrean armor vs trying to solo a prime. They were very clearly talking about the former Eiryl.
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By SimonSes 2025-06-07 16:44:48
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Seun said: »
There is difference between being able to enter Sortie solo to make progress on empyrean armor vs trying to solo a prime. They were very clearly talking about the former Eiryl.

No, they were talking about Prime weapon, but I think they said that you will be able to progress solo, not to finish it solo.
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By Seun 2025-06-07 16:53:31
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SimonSes said: »
Seun said: »
There is difference between being able to enter Sortie solo to make progress on empyrean armor vs trying to solo a prime. They were very clearly talking about the former Eiryl.

No, they were talking about Prime weapon, but I think they said that you will be able to progress solo, not to finish it solo.

To the extent that prime weapon progress is required to complete TVR. There was no real expectation that a player would be able to solo a prime start to finish.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-07 17:22:01
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
limbumafry

I approve this one
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By Nariont 2025-06-07 17:58:27
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Hoping for some ilvl jailer weapons, complete with stupid jobs on them that shouldnt be there
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