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Race Change Service
By SimonSes 2025-05-19 17:59:50
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Sure, and using my same example from earlier, if I told you that I was focusing really hard on getting the bluest lockstyle possible because I was thought it was the coolest thing ever, you could nod and pat me on the head, just like I'll do with the "min max" people.
Using your example, I wouldn't nod and pat you on the head, I would cheer for you and maybe even try to come up with some blue items that are not obvious and easy to miss. Making the bluest lockstyle possible is for me more exciting, than for example optimizing this month Ambuscade clear time.
By Dodik 2025-05-19 18:00:08
There are negatives. To a job that uses str, vit, hp and dex, very few negatives.
Why do you need HQ gear, you can win without it. A win's a win and a loss is a loss. You would've won without it, what difference did HQ gear make.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-19 18:07:07
Why do you need HQ gear, you can win without it. A win's a win and a loss is a loss. You would've won without it, what difference did HQ gear make.
I mean, I've definitely played (and won) with people who used +1 JSE necks over +2, that's certainly true. The difference, obviously, is that +2 necks are literally exactly the same as +1 necks except they have better stats. That's not true for any race change at all.
There is no job that only uses STR, VIT, HP, and DEX, but also...there's no race that has the highest STR, VIT, HP, and DEX, so...I'm not sure what your point is here. Should you go for the highest combination of all 4 of those stats? How do you weigh each of them? What if your loss of INT, MND, or AGI ends up biting you in the ***?
It's all a (extremely minor) tradeoff and there are no free stats, only (extremely minor) compromises. It's nothing like a cheer or an HQ version of an NQ piece of gear.
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-05-19 18:11:09
Fine, fine, since y'all are so determined to keep this one on the rails...
What I want to know is, who are these players who are so fortunate that they get to choose just one or two jobs to optimize for? Who gets to always play a damage-dealing job and never has to worry about getting pushed into a support or mage role instead? You need three jobs ready to go if you plan to do Odyssey, and that's if none of your favored jobs overlap with those of anyone else in your group.
Sure, fine, changing race to min-max stats may be a valid consideration for specific subsets of jobs, but you're actively making your performance worse to roughly the same extent on other jobs.
Are people planning to do this on an event by event basis? (Are people really only planning on doing different events every fourteen days, since that's the cooldown on race change?)
By Dodik 2025-05-19 18:11:26
If you're asking what is the superior race it's obviously Elvaan.
That's pretty obvious.
I'm saying there is a difference. That is all.
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By Asura.Karppa 2025-05-19 18:17:04
Interesting perspectives here... Will we see Asura turn into a Galka server? In short, if you enjoy playing mage jobs, choose Tarutaru. If melee tank jobs are your thing, go for Galka or Elvaan. I’ll probably switch to Galka myself, but I’ll let some time pass and think it over. Besides, it’s a nice change after 20 years as a Hume XD.
By Godfry 2025-05-19 18:31:54
Fine, fine, since y'all are so determined to keep this one on the rails...
What I want to know is, who are these players who are so fortunate that they get to choose just one or two jobs to optimize for? Who gets to always play a damage-dealing job and never has to worry about getting pushed into a support or mage role instead? You need three jobs ready to go if you plan to do Odyssey, and that's if none of your favored jobs overlap with those of anyone else in your group.
Sure, fine, changing race to min-max stats may be a valid consideration for specific subsets of jobs, but you're actively making your performance worse to roughly the same extent on other jobs.
Are people planning to do this on an event by event basis? (Are people really only planning on doing different events every fourteen days, since that's the cooldown on race change?)
Race stats do not make a difference. It just don't.
The min-max argument is itself a semantic one - "Is 11 STR better than 0 STR?".
In practice, the argument that you will never hear is: "if only you were a Galka we would have met this DPS check".
For Oddy, Sortie etc, the race stats will get neglected by server lag itself, where you took a few extra seconds longer to WS because your macros weren't firing off. We have sortie runs where we leave with 14 mins left on the clock and others where we leave on red countdown.
In Oddy you end up swapping people around to meet job requirements. Usually goes: I can make some capes and throw some gear together.
And there you sit - NOOOOOO THAT WILL NEGATE MY RACE CHANGE-
I've always looked at the min-max bs argument as something extremely silly, or as a way for people to say "look, I'm on an extra level. You wouldn't even understand it". The quote is real btw. lol.
If your min-maxing isn't helping you beat content, you are just appeasing to your mental illness. It does not affect the outcome of the game at all.
By Lili 2025-05-20 02:29:37
By the way, since the stat distribution is not even, if you add up all the deltas, Hume comes out on top (36 stat point total), then Galka (32), then Elvaan and Taru (both 31), then last Mithra (30).
Hume is therefore the optimal mathematical choice, but we all know that Mithra is the only logical playable option, thus disproving the field of mathematics in its entirety.
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By Asura.Yso 2025-05-20 02:40:11
But my short legs makes me look like a tripod when naked. #noracechangefortaruM
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2025-05-20 06:59:59
By the way, since the stat distribution is not even, if you add up all the deltas, Hume comes out on top (36 stat point total), then Galka (32), then Elvaan and Taru (both 31), then last Mithra (30).
Hume is therefore the optimal mathematical choice, but we all know that Mithra is the only logical playable option, thus disproving the field of mathematics in its entirety.
pourgasolineonfire.jpg You could also argue CHR has significantly less value than the other stats for nearly all jobs which would make galka and mithra look a lot better.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-20 07:07:12
What do you mean by add up the deltas? I added up the total stats of each race (on my image post in the other thread) and it shows hume having 2 more total stat points than galka/elvaan/taru, and Mithra 1 below those. I'm not sure how you get a 4/5/6 point difference
Edit: oh, I see. This chart has the wrong data on it.
By SimonSes 2025-05-20 07:36:32
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »What do you mean by add up the deltas? I added up the total stats of each race (on my image post in the other thread) and it shows hume having 2 more total stat points than galka/elvaan/taru, and Mishra 1 below those. I'm not sure how you get a 4/5/6 point difference
Edit: oh, I see. This chart has the wrong data on it.
Which one is wrong?
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By Moonlightagb 2025-05-20 07:37:44
Stat total while ignoring CHR is probably a better measure.
As long as the character isn't a mage (nuker) main, I think Galka's total stats and HP tradeoff for MP is superior since max MP doesn't matter much with all the idle refresh and buffs. Galka's drawback is it's model is bigger and can get stuck on mobs/npcs easier, and ...it's a Galka.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-20 08:16:10
Hume has 3 more VIT than mithra, not 6. I'm not sure which of the others are broken, I haven't checked all of them. My post shows the correct stats for all the races.
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By Siren.Dekoda 2025-05-20 10:03:40
Is there any lore attached to the race change to explain how the character changed races?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-20 10:22:31
Asking such a bigoted question in 2025 smh
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By Asura.Karppa 2025-05-20 10:41:44
All right Galka now XD
By RadialArcana 2025-05-20 11:03:16
Is there any lore attached to the race change to explain how the character changed races?
Moogle magic.
If you wanted to do it, it would be easy though. Races in XI didn't evolve to be what they are naturally, they are what they are due to the darkness in them (Envy, Rage, Arrogance etc). If you change the darkness within them, they become the other race.
The Ark Angels existed long before all the 5 races appeared and are seen with the Zilart in cut-scenes, the Ark Angels are the living embodiment of each of the 5 mother crystals and the darkness in them. Ark Angel Mithra is the blueprint for all Mithra, Ark Angel Taru is the blueprint for all Taru etc. The darkness in each crystal was absorbed into the people around the mother crystals (zilart) after the explosions, and they took the form of the Ark Angels / mother crystals over time.
Mithra are Zilart, that have been infused with the darkness of Envy from that specific mother crystal following the explosion and so took the form of ark angel mithra. Same for all other races.
Change the darkness in them, they become the other race.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-20 12:15:09
I wonder if this might open the door for them to offer a paid Name Change service
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-05-20 12:18:53
I wonder if this might open the door for them to offer a paid Name Change service
You can technically already do this. Make a char on another server with the same name as you (or if the name already exists, even better), jump server, and it will force you to change name. You can then return to your previous server.
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By Tarage 2025-05-20 12:37:05
Is there any lore attached to the race change to explain how the character changed races? Is there a lore reason behind our characters being able to die repeatedly and always get back up? Is there a lore reason behind how we can carry 320 Mahogany Beds around at any given point in time? Is there a lore reason behind us being able to switch jobs on the fly, but somehow not be able to retain knowledge and skills from other jobs beyond half of a single one?
Basic game mechanics don't need lore reasons dude.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-20 12:44:20
I wonder if this might open the door for them to offer a paid Name Change service
You can technically already do this. Make a char on another server with the same name as you (or if the name already exists, even better), jump server, and it will force you to change name. You can then return to your previous server.
I know you can do it this way, but it requires you to pay for a server transfer twice, and also wait (i forget how long it takes) for that period of time to be able to do it again, and also create a new character, which is more money. If that's the reason why someone wants to change their name, just would be better to offer that option outright without having to jump through hoops. Just make it official
By Godfry 2025-05-20 12:53:13
I know you can do it this way, but it requires you to pay for a server transfer twice, and also wait (i forget how long it takes) for that period of time to be able to do it again, and also create a new character, which is more money. If that's the reason why someone wants to change their name, just would be better to offer that option outright without having to jump through hoops. Just make it official
Name: SexyMithra
Race: Galka
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-05-20 12:54:19
By the way, since the stat distribution is not even, if you add up all the deltas, Hume comes out on top (36 stat point total), then Galka (32), then Elvaan and Taru (both 31), then last Mithra (30).
Hume is therefore the optimal mathematical choice, but we all know that Mithra is the only logical playable option, thus disproving the field of mathematics in its entirety.
pourgasolineonfire.jpg
Mithra is illogical on two fronts, actually.
1. They work for the Tarutaru, in spite of being superior to the Tarutaru (Tarutaru stat point total is distributed poorly).
2. The real reason people play them is pathological. In the compulsive sense. People are just compelled by the Empyrean to play sexy cat girls. Logic has no bearing on this at all. They could have a stat total of 3 instead of 30, and people would still play them. It surely wasn't the Mithra's stat total that made my brother's jaw drop and his pupil's dilate the first time we went through character creation in the early 2000s.
Catgirls simply have the mandate of Heaven, you see. And so I struggle against fate.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2025-05-20 13:09:13
But my short legs makes me look like a tripod when naked. #noracechangefortaruM
self-delusion is the key to success. REALLY, it IS!
everyone who's been to Windurst bathhouses knows ALL Tarutaru have 2 belly-buttons. The only differentiation is that some have inies and some have outies.
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By Asura.Yso 2025-05-20 13:14:41
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »But my short legs makes me look like a tripod when naked. #noracechangefortaruM
self-delusion is the key to success. REALLY, it IS!
everyone who's been to Windurst bathhouses knows ALL Tarutaru have 2 belly-buttons. The only differentiation is that some have inies and some have outies.
I sometimes put the third limb down the subligar leg if I'm doing real fast gearswaps.
By SimonSes 2025-05-20 13:22:48
By the way, since the stat distribution is not even, if you add up all the deltas, Hume comes out on top (36 stat point total), then Galka (32), then Elvaan and Taru (both 31), then last Mithra (30).
Hume is therefore the optimal mathematical choice, but we all know that Mithra is the only logical playable option, thus disproving the field of mathematics in its entirety.
pourgasolineonfire.jpg
Mithra is illogical on two fronts, actually.
1. They work for the Tarutaru, in spite of being superior to the Tarutaru (Tarutaru stat point total is distributed poorly).
2. The real reason people play them is pathological. In the compulsive sense. People are just compelled by the Empyrean to play sexy cat girls. Logic has no bearing on this at all. They could have a stat total of 3 instead of 30, and people would still play them. It surely wasn't the Mithra's stat total that made my brother's jaw drop and his pupil's dilate the first time we went through character creation in the early 2000s.
Catgirls simply have the mandate of Heaven, you see. And so I struggle against fate.

Not sure how serious you are, but I always like to play very agile male characters and I had a problem when I started playing FFXI. In the end I choose small size elvaan, but I was seriously considering Mithra and not at all because of her female attributes. For me Mithra male would be ideal. I currently play with dress up as a Mithra, because I really like the animations. I kinda like Galka too, but I love to play MNK and can't stand Galka kick animations. They are like low kicks made by some 90 years old gramps. Elvaan has probably the best kick animation, but it's not really agile, it's more like very stoic.
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By Pantafernando 2025-05-20 13:26:13
why Berserk stigma appeared in race change thread?
That is random
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By Siren.Dekoda 2025-05-20 13:51:24
Is there any lore attached to the race change to explain how the character changed races? Is there a lore reason behind our characters being able to die repeatedly and always get back up? Is there a lore reason behind how we can carry 320 Mahogany Beds around at any given point in time? Is there a lore reason behind us being able to switch jobs on the fly, but somehow not be able to retain knowledge and skills from other jobs beyond half of a single one?
Basic game mechanics don't need lore reasons dude.
I was just curious if it was going to be similar to monstrosity and you possess another monster
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2025-05-20 15:05:21
My first thoughts on race/change service were: Ah ha! now ppl who sell their accounts can completely erase their tracks!
... then I remembered this game too old to buy/sell accounts anymore
Went live today apparently?
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/envi/racechange/
There's also a way to swap around gender locked items, for those who were worried (see the bottom of the linked page). Notably, it appears that it only allows to swap Dancer AF/Relic, plus all costume yukatas and swimsuits. It doesn't let you swap Agent/Starlet gear from Mumor's event.
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