Race Change Service

People on FFXI are so desperate to be RIGHT, to make the most precise decision ever. The absolute truth! It's pathetic.

Swap your race if you don't like your ugly character and have fun.

There aren't any, because that's not how FFXI characters are geared in 2025. This is exactly my point, thank you for bringing it up.

"I don't care what race change does, I'm not switching away from Elvaan."

The amount of effort to argue against something that obviously makes sense, makes me think there is another reason for the arguing.

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With that being said, this does bring up an interesting discussion, and I would be interested (for semantics and subjective purposes) in seeing a ratings/tier list for job/race/abilities/ws etc combinations for what is the *optimal* pairing. Do we have any nerds willing to take this on?
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so for savage blade specifically
galka has +6 to their base damage (+9 str*.5, +3 mnd*.5)
elvaan has +9.5 (+11 str*.5, +8 mnd*.5)
hume has +4.5 (+6 str*.5, +3 mnd*.5)
mithra has +1.5 (+3 str*.5, 0 mnd)
taru has the base value having the lowest str and mnd.

magic would be a bit different
for purely black magic(int), it's taru(13)>hume/mithra(6)>galka(3)>elvaan(0)

for healing(mnd and vit with mnd having a higher value) elvaan(14)>galka(14)>hume(9)>mithra/taru(0)

for things like red mages, because they utilize both for different things, we'll take an average of int and mnd taru(6.5)>hume(4.5)>elvaan(4)>mirhta/galka(3)

and since we factor HP into the value equation, Mp should also be factored in, increasing the value of taru in every area where MP is utilized.

That's just a couple comparisons and more importantly, you should choose the race you like to play as. will an extra 500 damage on a savage blade really mean that much if you don't like the look of the character you're playing as? And, more importantly, with the damage cap being set at 99999, does that extra damage really matter if you're already hitting that mark in the content you play?

I don't think that's the point, which is why you're struggling to understand some other people's perspective on it. I don't think any of it matters. I don't think being ML50 vs ML10 "matters" for Aminon, Segs, or Odyssey. I have a very reasonable approach to this game (because it is a game and those things don't bring me the same satisfaction as others), so you're not talking to me specifically in trying to help me understand the differences. I get your point, but there's another part of this you're ignoring because it's not valuable to you (which is fine).

To some people, 130 HP is an advantage, perceived or real. I know of tanks who absolutely make sure every set does not have below 3100 HP or whatever. Having the top performance on a parse because they are ML50 is important to them. There's precast-Death sets in guides that keep your max MP high for the difference in a few damage. Countless other examples just like this.

Doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks, because they get joy out of playing the game like that. People pay billions of gil for MLs just to be the highest level for whatever content they play, even though they clear it with lower MLs already. It's a fantasy game, so they can pretend something matters when it really does not (not trying to get too meta, but none of this ***matters in the end; either everything matters or none of it does). For you to say "an extra 130 HP does not matter" is quite narrow-minded, because then that train never stops. Race Change "doesn't matter" because Plastic Surgeon exists. Or who cares, play in First Person mode, you'll never see yourself. You're already killing Aminon at ML20, getting 20 more levels doesn't matter. People have different goals and things they like to do in the game, is that really a problem? If people want to dial into the granular and get real particular about optimization, I suppose that's their way of getting joy out of a 23 year old video game? Again, not my care, but I can understand others' obsession (whether I agree with it or not).

A ramble anecdote:

The bolded is a given and goes without saying.

You're also making the exact same "does it matter" argument as Maletaru. Everything should be looked at in the specific context of the discussion. Obviously dealing 500 more damage if you're doing 99999 doesn't matter, lol, the same way as if your movement speed is capped with a low roll Bolters it doesn't matter to Double Up since it won't put you past the cap (though an argument can be made for landing an 11). That example is a irrelevant?

What if a person doesn't care about the look of their character and only cares about Savage Blade damage? You assume a person would only switch races for cosmetics. I mean, that's the most common reason why, but there will surely be someone who swaps for minor stat improvement. To Taru because they want their Bumba clear so bad and they want extra INT for Kaustra (have seen SCHs pop INT potion and wait for the right day before doing Bumbas).

Everyone picking galka ks wrong.

The takeover starts today. Taru's ran it for a while, but every dog has his day. And today, that Dog is a Galka.

OK. I can say that wearing a blue lockstyle is an advantage, perceived or real. At some point we have to agree on reality and objective facts though.

You don't need to have some magic number of HP, 3100 or otherwise, to play PLD or RUN. You don't need to have 417 STR to play WAR, and pretending that the delusions and fantasies of idiots are just as valuable as the math and mechanics of the video game is not productive.

And, as I have mentioned a dozen times already, even if you ARE changing for your SB set or your PLD idle set, you're also *** over your other stats.

What if you wipe because you ran OOMP and couldn't cast a cure iv? Whoops, guess being galka got you killed. What if you didn't resist a nuke because you have 13 fewer INT? Whoops, maybe that 130 HP wasn't worth it.

It's not a zero sum game, stats are not tradable in isolation, and even if they were, every single one of these is negligible and, factually, will not make a difference the VAST, VAST, VAST majority of the time you are playing ffxi.

If someone wants to pretend that's not true and pretend that their race is the reason they beat Bumba that's fine, so long as you're ready to agree that my blue lockstyle is the reason I resist fire spells.

@Maletaru I don't think you understood Buukii post at all. For some people it's not a matter of min maxing to beat the content, but min maxing is the goal by itself.

With respect, you made a lot of assumptions as to my intent when I said nothing of the sort. I listed 5 examples of when stats matter and to which race, then ended with an anecdote about people playing the game how they want. I never suggested anyone was wrong for playing that way or any other way. I cited the cosmetic change because others had as well, so it was relevant.

As to my comment you highlighted, it clearly does need to be said in a discussion where people are arguing why people are right or wrong for choosing a specific race to play as. It shouldn't need to be said, but the number of comments flatly telling people they are wrong necessitated it.

It is interesting how people have such cognitive dissonance here about certain topics. there was another discussion about warrior builds and I was flatly told I was wrong to add in double attack damage at the cost of magic evasion for content that didn't necessitate it since "you're just getting tp to savage blade and the white damage is meaningless," so if the extra 420 damage across the hits to build tp is "meaningless," then why is the 500 additional damage on a savage blade not so? This isn't about right or wrong here, it's about egos trying to justify why their opinion is the only correct one.

Regarding your anecdote at the end, sure, I'm 100% sure some people will be changing races just to get content clears, and that's their prerogative. I'm not sure it really needs to turn into a measuring contest though in a game designed around community.

OK, at least 80% of my point is still valid though.

Min maxing what? Say you're a PLD, is having 3100 HP min maxing? Why not 3200? Are you min maxing your enmity? How about MDB? INT? How do you min max INT, MND, and HP? Is min maxing your VIT by being Galka not ruining your STR min max because you're not elvaan? What about if you pick elvaan, you've failed to min max kaustra damage. If you pick elvaan for max STR, you're losing accuracy by not being mithra for min maxed DEX.

You can't min max any single job, let alone a whole character. Pretending that you're playing perfectly optimally by picking any race is still a delusion.

Say you pick elvaan for max STR for your WAR, whoops now you don't have the max VIT for Upheaval. Pick galka for the HP on PLD, whoops now you lost INT for resisting nukes. Picked mithra for THF, whoops you died to an AOE because you don't have enough HP.

I mean obviously none of these things are going to happen because the accuracy difference is like .05% increase...but even given their ridiculous premise that 10 of a stat matters...you still can't pick the right answer, even for a single job.

If they change race to get content cleared it's because they are stupid, not because it's required, or because it helps.

You are not taking into account the BS min-max argument will completely vanish, statistically. One of your mates take a few seconds longer to WS on, say, a bumba fight, and there goes your $11 optimization.

In a 1H sortie your min-max argument will get consumed by someone taking a little longer to warp between bitzers. lol.

Yeah but how much HP is enough? is 1500HP enough to tank Kalunga or is 5000HP too much? You only need as much HP as is necessary to survive a move until you get healed, right? So anything else is wasted stats? Does that apply to Magic Evasion, MDB etc? How much Magic Evasion should a person wear when in range of a V25 Odyssey boss, max meva, or should they be aiming for a specific number and fill the rest with offense? Does the additional Magic evasion even matter at a point? How much attack do I need to cap vs Gartell on GEO? I don't know, maybe the person doesn't really know how much HP (or any stat for that matter) they will need for any given situation, so they might try to optimize as much as possible by putting extra in a set. That's not necessarily delusions, that's just what we've always called minmaxing. If someone wants an extra 130 HP in their fc set or Random Deal set because they lose 300 when they swap to potency stuff or whatever, that optimization is their choice. I couldn't tell you in every single case what does and doesn't matter in the long run, or if it would save a person from dying etc., which is why people enjoy optimizing their sets as much as possible to be prepared, regardless of the circumstance. Personally, I try to load up on defensive stats on harder bosses as much as possible. Is this delusional because I don't really know how much I need to survive a move and don't want to take any chances?

For example, how do you decide on what is a better option between two pieces of gear that offer similar attributes and stats but are slightly different, and affect or modify the ability or ws in different ways? You can't just eyeball it because that's not always going to be accurate. You could just sim it out to get perfect answer, but then you're assuming a person would perform like a computer in the same way, and that's not realistic either. You could just say "who cares, both are close and neither make a difference in whether I beat it or not, good enough!". So in some situations, the human factor will intervene and the person would decide what they feel is best in the given scenario. It might not make any difference either way, but that's part of playing a video game in that you can make decisions for your own character on what you think is best for any situation. You might guess wrong, right, or its inconsequential, but you still can decide.


Only if your INT, HP or MP matters. Comes back to situations and decisions. They latter examples are something to consider overall, but they only matter when they do. You might not care about your MP or INT, or play jobs that benefit as much from that, so you can decide if the optimization path for racial stat differences is working more for whatever goal you're interested in. Doesn't mean you can't talk through the pros/cons.


Kinda strawman. If INT is what's important for landing the most damage for a certain spell, then better is better. Whether that results in a win or not is completely different story, but I don't think I ever said having more would be the difference between winning and not, only that someone might choose the better option for any given circumstance because it gives them an "advantage". The results may or may not change, but again, that's literally called minmaxing for the occasion.

Spoiler because kinda not on topic

Ok, but if you take this logic then any single INT is an advantage. Time to server transfer so you can get a better luminous isle tincture. Why aren't you using an altana's repast+2 on every attempt?

The problem i have with this mindset is that the measuring stick is just wrong. If you lose as a galka then also lose as a taru, you could say that being a taru gave you an advantage, but what's the advantage worth when you lost?

Unless your bumba is sub-1% when you timed out, your race didn't matter. That's why I said pretend, because it didn't matter and if you think it did, you're living in a fantasy pretend land.

It's fine if people want to live in fantasy pretend lands where being a Galka is the reason they're able to hold hate, being a taru is why they beat bumba, and being an elvaan is the reason they do so much damage. I'm gonna point out how wrong and stupid it is though.

https://x.com/mawatarium/status/1924399862105382928

"hei guyz y arent u using the 65 million dollar food lulz"

Shittiest and absolute stupidest bad faith counterargument I've ever seen here. 5/5 Eiryls.

That's funny because a guy in my Sortie group who has nothing left to buy in game does volunteer a Repast (not +2 because they're not usually in stock or are terribly overpriced) before every run he's there, lol. And there was a guy who was desperate for a certain V25 clear and shouted for a merc, but instead, a group of us just told him he had to supply the Repasts for the attempts in exchange for our help, instead of the 100+ M he was willing to pay an RMT. #minmaxing

I have to disagree with you Nynja. I think the min-max argument should not stop at race change if you want to go this far. If you are telling me that you are such a min-max shizzler that you changed your race because that's how serious you are, then you better be bringing repast +2.

That's because min-maxing with repast+2 is just as stupid as min-maxing with race change.

Also, a whole lot of the min-max gang are mediocre players. I often see people treating min-maxing as an accomplishment in itself. Bros talking about how they min-max that 1% HP while sporting their R25 gear, 2 years after V25 come out.

How good is your min-max if you aren't beating anything relevant with it? Just swap to the race that you like and stop pretending the min-max argument has any meaningful impact in it.

Are the stats really that important? As long as you switch from Tarutaru to something else then you are good to go!

What job is this hypothetical taru gonna play for the first ki of bumba? Hope it's WHM, because otherwise his MNK, WAR, BRD, BST, DRG, etc are going to be seriously un-minmaxed. He's gonna have a hard time doing ongo too, especially if it's 3 ki, because it's really tough to be minmaxed on all 3 jobs with a taru...

Hope his sortie group is running mage strat, because taru INT and MP aren't minmaxed for DNC, BRD, GEO, COR, RDM, or PLD. In fact, he might as well not even attempt PLD because his HP is so far from minmaxed, he probably can't even enter.

There aren't a lot of minmaxed spots in segments for a taru either. I guess he's gonna have to play SCH again, since WAR, SAM, DRK, MNK, DNC, RNG, DRG, PUP, THF, COR, BRD, NIN, PLD, RUN, RDM, BST, and BLU are definitely not minmaxed as a taru.

Good news is you can change every 14 days, so you can try Kalunga in a couple weeks when you can change back to Galka so you have the bestest advantages to try him

The arguments are silly, almost everyone that does this will be doing it for cosmetic reasons.

Personally I've done 2 race changes in the 21 years I've played FFXI.
I started in February 2004 as an Elvaan M and within maybe a couple of weeks rerolled as the Hume M I was until last night.
I literally did a 1:1 (excepting size) swap Hume M F1A -> Hume F F1A (med.->large).
Could I have swapped to Elvaan F for the increased STR and MND for more Savage Blade damage? Sure, but would I have liked the animations? No way.
I was always satisfied as a Hume, so "correcting" the gender was sufficient for me.
If you wanna throw $11 at SE every 2 weeks to min/max, more power to you.

All dogs go to heaven... except that one.

8th post in this thread is all it took for someone to ask for the actual difference in stats.

No galka goes to heaven. They aren't even good though for hell.