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Race Change Service
By Lili 2025-05-19 02:15:45
Went live today apparently?
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/envi/racechange/
There's also a way to swap around gender locked items, for those who were worried (see the bottom of the linked page). Notably, it appears that it only allows to swap Dancer AF/Relic, plus all costume yukatas and swimsuits. It doesn't let you swap Agent/Starlet gear from Mumor's event.
By Mekaider 2025-05-19 04:36:30
It works!
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-05-19 04:51:03
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By RadialArcana 2025-05-19 05:31:59
I think most people will use it to just swap hair style / color around. Didn't they say you needed a teal mog pell or something?
In reality, you just pay for it on the website and login. Then the moogle does the stuff when you talk to it. They put quite a bit of effort into this, it's pretty polished.
By Lili 2025-05-19 05:36:02
Didn't they say you needed a teal mog pell or something?
There's a chance you will eventually be able to gift and/or win a race change token through some other stuff. An ingame item is a good way to do that.
By RadialArcana 2025-05-19 05:45:56
I was hoping for some new color options on hair, maybe they were unsure they could do it well enough though currently. Seeing the state of what they did on horizon and everyone having to look at those travesties, maybe it's best they left it as is. I would be outraged if they put some green or pink ***in the game.
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By GetHelpNerd 2025-05-19 06:46:13
I was hoping for some new color options on hair, maybe they were unsure they could do it well enough though currently. Seeing the state of what they did on horizon and everyone having to look at those travesties, maybe it's best they left it as is. I would be outraged if they put some green or pink ***in the game.
you are obsessed, seek help.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2025-05-19 06:53:43
This incentivizes them to make more options in the future though to sell more.
Also do we have a good listing somewhere of the stat differences at 99 to help decide if I want to change?
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-19 07:06:59
Quetzalcoatl.Jakey said: »Also do we have a good listing somewhere of the stat differences at 99 to help decide if I want to change?
It's extremely negligible
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By Dodik 2025-05-19 07:12:30
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-19 08:17:57
I have never, and would never, say it is 0. In fact, I linked directly to a place where they can see the exact stat difference for their current and target race and make a decision for themselves, exactly like they asked for.
It's my opinion that when your INT is 123+350, getting another 8 by switching races isn't significant, just like having 3,214 HP isn't much different to 3,104. If you feel differently, make whatever decision you want.
By Pantafernando 2025-05-19 08:20:28
Sometimes the downvote button could actually have some value
By Dodik 2025-05-19 08:25:28
Your claims of negligible is opinion. 11str is neither negligible nor insignificant, IMO.
What is fact is that at most it is a difference of 11 stat value, depending on race.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2025-05-19 08:31:11
And is that factoring in a subjob because the subjob stats while small are effected as well in the same way to further increase the differences.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-19 08:36:27
Quetzalcoatl.Jakey said: »And is that factoring in a subjob because the subjob stats while small are effected as well in the same way to further increase the differences.
Subjob stats are not affected by race.
By RadialArcana 2025-05-19 08:44:49
FFXI is a game built on min maxing, any difference matters if you're that kind of player.
If there was a piece of gear that was +1 that had 11str or 11int ontop of all the other stats it would cost millions more and people would buy it.
0 in any box is shown as the lowest max, and the higher numbers are above that lowest races stat by the number shown. so Elvaan has 11 more str than Taru at 99, Taru has 13 more int than Elvaan in the chart.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-05-19 08:46:04
I would argue that 11 stat is negligible, but 130 HP isn't. Either way, he provided the actual numbers so anyone can draw their own conclusions from that.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-19 08:50:00
11 is more than entire ring or earring slot, I'd have to be on the side of "that's not negligible" It's also 11 extra fire damage for flametongue =o
Elf war gets 3 earrings, would sell a lot of elvaans.
Though of course you then have to BE a dirty elvaan, so...
Though really like I said previous only the taru INT really really matters. +13 int on kaustra is a bajillion dps.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-19 08:52:13
I already hashed out these points in the other thread but
1.) It's not going to make or break literally anything
2.) You're still losing some other stat, so unless you ONLY need a single stat and completely ignore all the other stats (this is basically impossible, even for a single job character), it all comes out in the wash
3.) This is assuming you're going from the lowest possible in a stat to the absolute max in that stat
Going from Hume to Galka, you gain 3 STR. Please tell me again how getting from ML30 to ML33 will be a significant and consequential upgrade to your contributions to the group?
People who obsess over 5 STR are, in my experience, the people who are repeatedly failing content over and over and think they just need another +1 item, 10 more MLs, or a race change and then they'll win.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-19 08:54:58
11 is more than entire ring or earring slot
Um Excuse me sir, IDK
I guess if you completely ignore all other stats on rings then yeah...11 STR is technically more *STR* than *most* ring slots but um...that's not how stats work.
You also have to consider, as my other post says, you're LOSING a ring slot when you switch to BLM. So...yeah IDK if there would be a load of elvaans. People would probably, rightfully, realize that there's a tradeoff to any race, and that tradeoff is extremely minimal.
By Dodik 2025-05-19 08:55:33
People freak out over another 5str in a ring slot then turn around and claim 11str is negligible.
Smh.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-19 08:56:46
People freak out over another 5str in a ring slot
Who is freaking out over 5 STR in a ring slot in this, the year of our lord, 2025? WTF ring are you guys talking about?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-19 09:01:13
It's all subjective. I happen to agree with Thorny's point that 100+ HP is actual notable, considering it allows flexibility across sets to not dip HP too low, allowing better options to swap in between for more defense. But I also understand what Maletaru was saying in his opinion, in that it doesn't really matter. (Does dealing 180 more Savage Blade damage or 300 more Kaustra damage really matter?). Either all of it matters or none of it does, and FFXI players have always obsessed over a literal 1 attribute, so I'm not surprised this is coming up.
With that being said, this does bring up an interesting discussion, and I would be interested (for semantics and subjective purposes) in seeing a ratings/tier list for job/race/abilities/ws etc combinations for what is the *optimal* pairing. Do we have any nerds willing to take this on?
Like say for example someone whose main is PLD wants to be the most efficient, and we say VIT/HP/MP are the best stats for a PLD - what would you rank Hume/Galka/Mithra/Taru/Elvaan given those traits? A BLM. A Savage user. Best race with XYZ prime weapon. etc. Do we have spreadsheets that can calculate the (theoretical) best race for each scenario, similar to how we have the All Jobs Gear Sets? Not saying it would be the final say, because situations matter, but we've calculated far more before, so I think it would be an interesting option to explore, since so many players DO actually care about the minor difference in stats (most players are gonna swap for cosmetics, but there will be people who want more "optimization").
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-19 09:03:38
I know you didn't say "does dps matter" in the church of freaking the *** out about not being bis in every thread lol
(it doesn't, but the ***some of you say sometimes would make you think otherwise...)
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-19 09:06:38
Difference between a reasonable person and an extreme person who cares about something. If you could give Usain Bolt a pill that would increase his performance by 3.5% or Michael Phelps a drink that would improve his endurance by 1%, they'd take it in a heartbeat. If I offered a pill to a UPS worker that could increase his calf strength by 3.5% so that he could reach boxes more efficiently, he'd super give me the finger because that does not matter to him.
Different players, different interests.
edit: By the way, 3.5% and 1% basically the stat differences from Maletaru's example above, so obviously more is more and better is better, but he covered the fact that you lose something elsewhere. Reason why I mentioned having a list or spreadsheet to calculate the race differences and optimizations from that perspective.
By Dodik 2025-05-19 09:09:06
The omen stat rings with 10 stat on them are a clear upgrade over any other ring, typically a 5 stat increase over the second best ring.
Would you advise someone not farm omen rings because 5 stat is negligible?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-19 09:11:35
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »People freak out over another 5str in a ring slot
Who is freaking out over 5 STR in a ring slot in this, the year of our lord, 2025? WTF ring are you guys talking about?
Plenty of people have discussions and back and forths about which Adoulin/TVR Ring |is the best|. Which Unity ||. Is switching Unities worth the stat increase on x unm gear. Cheer effects. Is this bonanza weapon BIS offhand for Blue nuking subduction vs Sweetwater Leeches or for Savage Blading Kalunga while your attack is capped but your haste is not capped but you have slightly uncapped acc. Maybe not you, but yes, others do obsess over 5 str in the ring slot, lol.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-19 09:15:45
I happen to agree with Thorny's point that 100+ HP is actual notable, considering it allows flexibility across sets to not dip HP too low, allowing better options to swap in between for more defense.
What does "dip HP too low" mean? Like...going to yellow? Becoming at risk of dying?
Here are my problems with arguments about max HP mattering:
1.) You only live through an attack because of your race if you ended up at < the difference between the races. How often do you find yourself at 110 HP during the average event?
2.) Most of the time you're not at your max HP. The second you get hit once, your max HP no longer matters.
3.) With equip sets, your HP is fluctuating so much between sets anyway that having 3120 HP in one set doesn't actually mean anything if your next one drops you to 2900.
The biggest difference is for tanks who are losing threat based on the % of their HP they took in damage, but that's so again...incredibly negligible. For an example: as a PLD/BLU I have 3201 HP in my idle set. If I take 1000 damage from a hit, that's 31.24% of my HP. If I were a Galka, the absolute opposite end of the spectrum, I would have 3331 HP, meaning that would be 30.02% of my HP.
Do you think a 1% change in the enmity loss calculation will make a difference? That would be 540 enmity lost vs 562. FOR A 1000 DAMAGE HIT. The difference is 1.5% of one Flash (with no +enmity gear).
There's absolutely no chance that in 99.95% of content, having 130 more HP will ever make any difference. This is what I would call, the definition of negligible.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-19 09:18:40
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »People freak out over another 5str in a ring slot
Who is freaking out over 5 STR in a ring slot in this, the year of our lord, 2025? WTF ring are you guys talking about?
Plenty of people have discussions and back and forths about which Adoulin/TVR Ring |is the best|. Which Unity ||. Is switching Unities worth the stat increase on x unm gear. Cheer effects. Is this bonanza weapon BIS offhand for Blue nuking subduction vs Sweetwater Leeches or for Savage Blading Kalunga while your attack is capped but your haste is not capped but you have slightly uncapped acc. Maybe not you, but yes, others do obsess over 5 str in the ring slot, lol.
Ephramad has 10 STR AND 10 DEX AND 10 AGI AND 20 ACC/RACC AND 20 ATK/RATK AND 10 PDL. Believe it or not, changing from Taru to Elvaan won't give you 10 PDL 20 ATK 10 AGI and 10 DEX. In fact you'd lose 3 DEX and 9 AGI. It's like an Ephramad's Ring, but without any of the good stats.
And again...all the other stats are WAY more significant than 10 STR. The comparisons are like: is this weapon with 15 more MAB and 10 MBB, better than this one with 50 more mdmg and 15 more INT?
Absolutely nobody is deciding between two pieces of gear based on a 5 STR difference.
Please, someone give me an example where someone is deciding on a piece of gear because it has ONLY 5 more STR than another, alternative piece.
By Dodik 2025-05-19 09:28:49
Give me an example of two rings one with 5-10 stat less than the other and explain why you should not use the higher stat one because 5-10 stat is "negligible".
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Went live today apparently?
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/envi/racechange/
There's also a way to swap around gender locked items, for those who were worried (see the bottom of the linked page). Notably, it appears that it only allows to swap Dancer AF/Relic, plus all costume yukatas and swimsuits. It doesn't let you swap Agent/Starlet gear from Mumor's event.
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