Which Weapon Should I Get I'm Too Stupid To Pick!

Dumb question - is the animation the same as fast blade?

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Quoting this for visibility since it was the last post on the previous page.

I am curious to see what the dmg is like with just building. BF FBII spam might be a thing. Assuming ternary is going to give the bigger spike though.

Yes anyone with access to lots of TP Bonus and multi-attack are going to put up ridiculous numbers. The more important component is that it is a strong Fusion on a sword. This means it can open light for Savage Blade or act as a linker between Distortion and Light. Basically it's a better non-RDM-exclusive version of Excalibur.

And darn, I didn't expect to have to make a DEX DA (or maybe WSD) cape for my RDM, BLU and WAR. Well BLU has DEX WSD, but DA might be better overall I think.

Would you please share your base INT stat, if you are job master, debuffs applied to the enemy, applicable merits (ie: potency), what the days were, any applicable weather effects happening, what rank the bunzi rod is, and if there was any additional assistance provided by a COR's quick draw or a JA spell?

Thinkin' hard about Flametongue, Onion Sword III, Diamond AssThicc, and then vaguely being tempted just by wanting all of them for something.

Flametongue has my eye, because I assume it works in the offhand, and it boosts WSC mods of mainhand stuff, and this makes it great for dual wield. Particularly for WAR and BLU, which are the two jobs I have in Master Levels. The add effect sounds rather nice, if it really is just your STR translated into enspell damage. Cause with Farsha in mainhand, I'd have 100% datk, AM3 going, and then offhand enspell damage. Cloudsplitter would become 50%STR 40%MND. Axe WSes would get the boost they deserve, as well. But then even with Naegling, the enspell damage would still be pretty high, and I'd get to spam Savage instead. Like it's probably not breaking any boundaries, but it just seems like it'd be fun in my head.

Onion Sword III gives Fast Blade II, which is Fusion property. This would let any native Savage Blade user make two step self light. People always seem to forget that Savage without Naegling is still fairly damn potent. So the best way to leverage Onion Sword III is to still use Savage with it, but to play off of having Fast Blade II. But this choice also seems kinda like it'll be really common and ultimately a little bit boring, even if it's really good. I mean, looking at the really good sword jobs, this would let BLU have a Fusion WS, so they no longer need to rely on Chain Affinity to try and do self 3 step double light (nor having to scramble with the Red Lotus > Flat 4 step path). But of course, it also does neat stuff like letting Fomalhaut COR do self 3 step double light, and gives Dancer a good Sword WS to use for slashing times.

Diamond AssThicc has a great deal of utility. Longer JAs. No JA down time for certain ones. It might make me Master BST even... But then, idk, usually a lot of harder stuff dispels you anyway,, and you still don't wanna physical WS in it on WAR or PLD. Malevolence exists, so you won't actually see new record highs on your magic WSes either vs. a committed magic WS build.

Dadgum it! Maybe I'll check my mules first (of which Vyre actually is one these days) and pick some other fun stuff so that I can settle on something on my main.

So I need to test sometime later when I get a moment, or if anyone else has already picked one up, do you get the WS from offhand? So far all the special properties from all the other weapons are in effect while off handing and Onion Sword III doesn't mention anything about "Main Hand: Fast Blade II". If it's still active in offhand, other very interesting options just opened up.

I dont think Building is doing much if you are attack capped. WSD from building only works for first hit and add 1sec ja cooldown. With full buffs and Aria (no SV) in sim, it shows 51k median just spamming at 1000TP with cento. 67k+ at 3000TP

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Sorry about that, I was up in its face as close as I can get with Orpheus Sash, so my lua would put that on over Acuity +1.

Weather and Day had no effect on Aero itself. Wasn't wind or ice day / weather.

No buffs, no Ja bonus, no vido/shattersoul, no burn, no impact.

Merits:
Earth Damage 5/5
Ele seal 5/5
Ele Debuff Duration 5/5
Ele Debuff Potency 5/5

156 + 347 int

Rank 30/30 Bunzi

Monster was Apex Bat in Dho Gates

Koru Moru, Joachim, Ulmia, Slibby (BLM/DNC), Lemia (PLD/RUN)

Skillchain was Black Halo > Atonement

MLVL 43

Idk, but none of the other weapons that grant weaponskills work in the offhand.

I'm expected it to be, but those weapons special effects are main hand only and these seem to be both. If anyone has it yet, just equip it in the offhand with naegling or some other sword and see what pops up.

Thanks Saevel and Vyre for contributing to even more confusion and indecisiveness by making valid points...

Wheres the tier list?!?
7 pages and no tier list

The answer, confirmed by my mule, is that Onion Sword III only gives Fast Blade II in the main hand.

Yeah this is a tough one>..,> thank you guys for chewing the fat all day for us to read

Fast Blade II Summary:

It's like Ambu Axe's Decimation, but better. The damage varies with TP. Possible downside is that it is a DEX mod.

Stack PDL/Multi Attack/TP Bonus for a good time.

WAR/DNC/RDM can do some nasty things with this weapon.

Anyone know what RUNs Temper DA% usually caps at?

Let's everybody agree on making the shield so nobody is jelly.

So Exeter isn't good yeah? Just verifying.

Hmm somewhere around 30% (600 skill)? ML's and newer gear changed stuff and I haven't checked in a while. WAR, RDM, BLU, and DNC can all do silly stuff with Onion Blade II. Not sure about COR, RNG, BRD, and NIN though. Also THF? You really want a TP Bonus weapon or ability for FBII.

Thanks was, I was just curious.

I think DRG with Dual Wield could possibly partake in Fast Blade Shenanigans as well.

Edit: DRG/DNC with Ternion+1 is showing Fast Blade II to be more damaging than DNC (it's very close).. Damn


I hate what this game has become....

COR and RNG will be equally silly with it. COR has TP Bonus gun, and RNG has TP bonus bow with Hauksbok Arrow.

Idk... On a serious note, we all know where all paths lead when it comes to sword, and it's not Rome, it's Naegling.

Diamond aspis makes all your skillchain windows 10 seconds long if you close them (step 3-6). Ultimate solo skillchain shield.

Main hand only.

Onion sword won't win with Naegling. Onion is only better if you have people spamming savage already and need to break WS wall, or for jobs which don't have access to naegling or if you need specifically Fusion WS. So yeah Rng will be great with Onion, but it will be way better with Naegling. Same for DRG, COR etc. I can imagine solo SC savage > FBII is also better for jobs with native access to Savage Blade, than just spamming Savage with Naegling.

Do you get access to fast blade II when in the offhand with another sword in mainhand?

Also, for ice brand/flametongue, does the STR/INT mod 10% work from offhand, and on ranged? does enspell boosting equipment add to damage or it's straight int total?

It's all side grades at this point I feel.

Naegling + TP Bonus. Excellent Savage Blade #s, Sacrifices White Damage and accuracy.

Onion Sword + Gleti's/Ternion/Crep/Sangarius+1: Very Good WSDMG, Nice White Damage, High Accuracy, Also gives you a solid fusion option.

WAR with Onion Sword+ Ikengas Axe is probably the play style I honestly crave.


Though Naegling/Ikengas is very nice too


Too bad I am picking the shield.

Not sure what's wrong with everyone here but with the staff you can effectively "sac pull" in dyna without having to wait for weakness. Everything else is the wrong choice.

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