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By Taint 2025-05-16 11:15:03
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WS > swap > build 1000, warcry > WS > swap back

The 15 seconds is worth it.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-16 11:16:39
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Why not just warcry at low TP the equip blurred+1 right away? Does Aspis have to be equipped the entire time for the duration bonus?
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By Felgarr 2025-05-16 11:18:54
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SimonSes said: »
shield: very good for BST, especially to pair with mythic. Great for WAR zergs I guess with Warcry. Not sure if worth it just for that though. Great for PLD JA swap.

I get PLD and WAR JA swap ....but Why Aymur and Diamond Aspis together? (I didn't sleep well, so I might be missing obvious). Are we talking about Master + Pet Skillchains?
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By Godfry 2025-05-16 11:19:24
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Why not just warcry at low TP the equip blurred+1 right away? Does Aspis have to be equipped the entire time for the duration bonus?

Idk why people have a hard time understanding this. Of course I will dump TP first before Warcrying. And how many WS can war do in 15 seconds? 2-3? Yeah, that's 1k TP for 2-3 WS.
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By Godfry 2025-05-16 11:19:58
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Felgarr said: »
I get PLD and WAR JA swap ....but Why Aymur and Diamond Aspis together? (I didn't sleep well, so I might be missing obvious). Are we talking about Master + Pet Skillchains?

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By SimonSes 2025-05-16 11:29:17
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Felgarr said: »
SimonSes said: »
shield: very good for BST, especially to pair with mythic. Great for WAR zergs I guess with Warcry. Not sure if worth it just for that though. Great for PLD JA swap.

I get PLD and WAR JA swap ....but Why Aymur and Diamond Aspis together? (I didn't sleep well, so I might be missing obvious). Are we talking about Master + Pet Skillchains?

30mab for WS and longer duration on killer instinct. Also longer duration on buffs from sub.
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By Dodik 2025-05-16 11:33:22
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Also Bst doesn't get blurred shield or any other good shield options.

By far the best shield bst can actually use.
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By Taint 2025-05-16 11:35:32
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Why not just warcry at low TP the equip blurred+1 right away? Does Aspis have to be equipped the entire time for the duration bonus?

My thought was JA delay from Warcry and how fast WAR gets to 1000+ TP but your way would be much more simple.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-05-16 11:35:48
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The absolute disrespect to parana shield BSTs everywhere
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-05-16 11:36:12
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I honestly wasn't expecting them to give us a free handout just because they made reforged versions, but I won't complain. Air Knife for me. I'll be very happy to play around with that toy.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-05-16 11:37:05
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Asura.Melliny said: »
I honestly wasn't expecting them to give us a free handout just because they made reforged versions, but I won't complain. Air Knife for me. I'll be very happy to play around with that toy.

These are going to be a very personal choice, I don't think any of them are "wrong" or "bad". Just gonna have fun and enjoy whichever one someone wants.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-16 11:38:37
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Asura.Melliny said: »
I honestly wasn't expecting them to give us a free handout just because they made reforged versions, but I won't complain. Air Knife for me. I'll be very happy to play around with that toy.

It's a solid pick. Can actually respect a person picking something they'll enjoy instead of what the meta makes them pick.

Solid chance en-aero is directly related to your AGI, just like flametongue is STR. Worth a confirmation when you get it.
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By Godfry 2025-05-16 11:39:49
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Asura.Melliny said: »
I honestly wasn't expecting them to give us a free handout just because they made reforged versions, but I won't complain. Air Knife for me. I'll be very happy to play around with that toy.

It's a solid pick. Can actually respect a person picking something they'll enjoy instead of what the meta makes them pick.



Aspir Shield meta onry!
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-05-16 11:40:04
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3 extra minutes of SV songs (minus Aria/HMarch obviously, but its still 3 minutes for the other 3-4 songs). Granted there aren't a TON of 17-20 minute long events, but it's a thing.
I'm a but unconvinced by this. I mean sure, there might be that rare time where it could be nice, but there's the problem with Passion and Honor. Passion now it's not a big deal as it's not like it's used all of the time, but Honor Much pretty much is.
Having 4 songs with long duration and a single one which is not is... I dunno, it irks me a lot but maybe it's just me.
Furthermore there's the potency issue.
It's probably not a big deal, but you lose ~20% potency during SV using Cheer instead of Ghorn.


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Also: replacing Nitro songs with new songs (that also last a while).
Now this is super duper nice imho. Especially for ballad but not just that. Yes you do lose a 10% potency (outside of SV) but it's an acceptable compromise.
When the regular songs will have 1+ mins left, the Cheer ones will probably have like ~6 mins left. According to the exact amount it means it could be annoying to overwrite them with non-nitro songs but this sounds like a non issue honestly.


So basically you have to choose between a super nichey instrument that could be nice (especially for the second part, I'm still not overly sold on the SV one) or a cool weapon for other jobs.

I dunno. Yagyu is nice but lolNIN atm so yeah, meh.
Onion Sword III is a very interesting Slashing Option for some jobs, mainly DNC, then again I use DNC so rarely these days... think I'm gonna wait with my Kupon for like 1-2 months and see if I make up my mind.
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2025-05-16 11:40:15
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Godfry said: »
Don't come to Asura if you are unwilling...


I'm guessing this person doesn't know that only the WAR gets the extended duration on Warcry and not the whole party.
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By Phoenix.Gavroches 2025-05-16 11:40:20
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So, we all agreed that shield is the best one and if you don't have shield in Asura you won't get invited, right?

Gonna wait to see more testing, but yeah the shield for /DRK IS 42 seconds extra "Last resort" and 15 seconds extra "soul eater”. Right there for aminon RDMs is a lot.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-16 11:42:11
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I've got most things picked out for my chars, I'm just not sure what to pick for my cor.
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By Siren.Dekoda 2025-05-16 11:44:00
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I play almost exclusively COR. Exeter isn’t great so I think I will get Onion Sword. Bonus points for my DNC
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By Godfry 2025-05-16 11:44:16
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Bahamut.Creaucent said: »
Godfry said: »
Don't come to Asura if you are unwilling...


I'm guessing this person doesn't know that only the WAR gets the extended duration on Warcry and not the whole party.

I'm already pissed I'm forced to share my Warcry with a stupid spamga SAM... I need to share my Bonanza effect too? Would be better if it extended warcry and made it single target.

It's not about segments, it's about the parse!
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2025-05-16 11:45:29
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Shame COR isn't on Air Knife.
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By Carbuncle.Slib 2025-05-16 11:49:09
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Also does anyone know what the proc rate is on Wizard's rod?

10% I'm getting in a 100 sample set
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By SimonSes 2025-05-16 11:50:06
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Ice brand test:
- enspell has priority over add. effect ice damage
- Composure has no effect on add. effect
- damage of add. effect is exactly the amount of your INT. 300INT => 300 damage from ice add. effect
- proc on every hit including multi attacks
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-16 11:57:26
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The shitty part of Dragon Fangs is that even though you can FINALLY make darkness, you still can't make double darkness. So it's neat to get the distortion... on an inferior ws

...and you have to actually unlock asuran fists cause you can't use karambit lol

For the, I'm not making a prime / rema - monks/pups
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By SimonSes 2025-05-16 11:58:50
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
The shitty part of Dragon Fangs is that even though you can FINALLY make darkness, you still can't make double darkness. So it's neat to get the distortion... on an inferior ws

For the, I'm not making a prime / rema - monks/pups

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By Phoenix.Jakarai 2025-05-16 11:59:21
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Godfry said: »
Don't come to Asura if you are unwilling...



i wonder why bonanza brd ?
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By yossarian 2025-05-16 11:59:55
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
3 extra minutes of SV songs (minus Aria/HMarch obviously, but its still 3 minutes for the other 3-4 songs). Granted there aren't a TON of 17-20 minute long events, but it's a thing.
I'm a but unconvinced by this. I mean sure, there might be that rare time where it could be nice, but there's the problem with Passion and Honor. Passion now it's not a big deal as it's not like it's used all of the time, but Honor Much pretty much is.
Having 4 songs with long duration and a single one which is not is... I dunno, it irks me a lot but maybe it's just me.
Furthermore there's the potency issue.
It's probably not a big deal, but you lose ~20% potency during SV using Cheer instead of Ghorn.


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Also: replacing Nitro songs with new songs (that also last a while).
Now this is super duper nice imho. Especially for ballad but not just that. Yes you do lose a 10% potency (outside of SV) but it's an acceptable compromise.
When the regular songs will have 1+ mins left, the Cheer ones will probably have like ~6 mins left. According to the exact amount it means it could be annoying to overwrite them with non-nitro songs but this sounds like a non issue honestly.


So basically you have to choose between a super nichey instrument that could be nice (especially for the second part, I'm still not overly sold on the SV one) or a cool weapon for other jobs.

I dunno. Yagyu is nice but lolNIN atm so yeah, meh.
Onion Sword III is a very interesting Slashing Option for some jobs, mainly DNC, then again I use DNC so rarely these days... think I'm gonna wait with my Kupon for like 1-2 months and see if I make up my mind.

you wont lose ballad potency in this situation because you dont need to wear duration pants anymore. I haven't check on this yet, but it also could help with getting Mousai +1 minnes up over NITRO songs
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-16 12:00:01
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Siren.Dekoda said: »
I play almost exclusively COR. Exeter isn’t great so I think I will get Onion Sword. Bonus points for my DNC
I was leaning to Onion Sword as well for my cor. Air knife is on the table since they're one of my two main thf's, but I think I'd get better mileage out of the sword.
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-05-16 12:01:01
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I think the swords, shield, dagger, and horn are all good and viable picks for anyone playing jobs that use them. And I have a soft spot for the dagger because I spent so much time with my Blau dolce / sirocco kukri combo back in the day. I don’t overthink decisions like this. I’ll take my shiny toy and be happy with it. Delay 150 is just fun to swing too.

Also I thought it was already established the wind damage was the same as sirocco and jugo which came before it. If it’s anything different I’ll let you guys know, but I don’t think it’s the case.
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By SimonSes 2025-05-16 12:01:41
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yossarian said: »
you wont lose ballad potency in this situation because you dont need to wear duration pants anymore. I haven't check on this yet, but it also could help with getting Mousai +1 minnes up over NITRO songs

It was discussed few months ago and yeah overwriting songs for tank and mages was the main pros for BRDs having everything.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-16 12:03:05
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It should be vastly superior to their wind damage

Though that's not saying a lot. Like 400
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