Which Weapon Should I Get I'm Too Stupid To Pick!

> In your case, I'd personally say that Miracle Cheer is the best if you want to start playing BRD

Dont I also need to make the other REMA instruments for bard to be worth considering, otherwise I wont have a hope in hell of it ever being used in parties?

Cuz thats a *loooot* of work, I dont think Miracle cheer alone is enough to make it good right?

> Base damage means absolutely nothing when compared with mythic AM3

That was my thoughts as well, Epeo hits pretty hard and I do quite like the comfort of DPSing in such a tanky sword

> Base damage means nothing, it can't even remotely compete with any REMA weapon.

Its not competing with a REMA though, it's competing with uh, *checks notes from years ago* Crepuscular knife + Tauret? or something? Like very much not super jacked in terms of gear. Mostly I used Thf and Dnc for just soloing stuff cuz they travel fastest and THing stuff.

Also Im realizing that I was looking at the reforged stats not the normal stats, I see now that the reforged versions are different and unacquirable effectively.

> but long-term when/if you get some REMA

This likely will never happen, Id be much more inclined to make something like Nirvana or Opashoro if I was to dump that sorta time and effort into such a task.

> Diamond Aspis is the clear winner

Am I missing something, or is the only appeal of Diamond Aspis merely just getting the duration bonus on a handful of my buffs as paladin, namely sentinel, rampart, and palisade?

Just wanna confirm there isnt something else to consider on that one.

Actually, I just realized I was looking at the reforged versions and not normal versions, which explains why its way less of a big deal.

Okay so, now I think what I wanna be looking at is Air Knife as an offhand option, its the highest damage 150 delay dagger, though I have zero clue how that shores up against other offhands nowadays with extra hits or whatever

But my gut says the added damage and wicked low delay makes it a very solid offhand option ?

So it seems like my options are either Air Knife offhand for tping/extra dmg on thf/dnc/brd to substantially boost them up, or, Diamond Aspis for a kinda neat but doesnt seem ultra impactful bonus on my paladin.

Onion Sword >>> all

you can full time holy circle dawg

MC-only BRD is good but not great. It's missing:
Mythic for Macc, meleeing, debuffs, & Non-MC song duration
Empyrean for 4th/5th slot
Aeonic for Honor March
Relic for slightly better buffs/debuffs
Prime for Aria

It's still decent for low-mid tier content and can clear plenty of stuff. Crucially (for me), MC will always be useful for BRD and never be replaced by another item (currently in the game).


For offhand it's competing with TP Bonus dagger and it's not even REMOTELY close to as good. Base damage of your offhand means *checks notes* basically nothing. If your accuracy is really bad then...I guess, but for soloing nonsense it's unlikely to matter.


Not missing anything, that's the deal. Getting 15+ seconds longer on Sentinel, Rampart, Palisade, Fealty, Majesty is huge and completely unachievable with any other item in the game. The SC cheese can be neat too.


I mentioned this above but no, base damage and 36 delay reduce mean very little compared to 1,000 TP bonus in your offhand. It's an....eh....offhand if you need accuracy, but compared to things like Gleti's Knife, Crep knife, etc. it's like...a side grade at best (IMO), or possibly a down grade.

Sorry for the late reply. Went to Zi'tah. It's piercing.

Huge. On ws too?

Yessir.

Any opinions on Wizard Rod for GEO? Don't have Myrkr for MP so the rod saving mana is nice, and the rod itself seems comparable to Bunzi if maybe a little worse? Has anyone tested the numbers for stuff like Sortie? Ongo?

There is lots of info about the wizard's rod on this thread.

It seems to do very good MB damage.

It could be the best for magic bursting even if not for nuking

Still undecided. So far thinking this order of priority

- Diamond Buckler, for PLD, RDM (Saboteur) and maybe WHM self skillchaining for lolz

- Miracle Cheer, I have bard but it isn't quite BIS, I do have Gjallarhorn/Dardaubla/Marsyas

- Wizard's Rod for GEO or RDM nuking


I excluded Pandit's Staff despite being a career WHM (yes, I am not a mule), as it's very meh. Not sure what else I'm missing.

The more I think about it the more I want to pick a bunch of onion swords and have a plastic sword swinging party.

Someone convince me otherwise.