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By Tarage 2025-05-17 14:28:14
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It's these kinda of comments (on reddit, you slackers) that I wanted more of.

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i picked the chocobo knife for some reason and i instantly regretted it and have been thinking about it ALL DAY. im a wreck.
Have one straight from one of my alt's ls
The gear not being additive thing is new to me. Is that true? If so why is it not mentioned on the wiki?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-17 14:31:56
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It is

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Movement_Speed

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The effects of spells, abilities, and equipment stack up to the maximum movement speed of +60%. All sources stack additively, with several notable exceptions:

Only the highest value from equipment counts.
Mazurka and Quickening effects have a combined maximum value of 20%.
Bolter's Roll's effect is multiplicative with equipment, but not with other sources.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-05-17 14:32:18
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Tarage said: »
Is that true? If so why is it not mentioned on the wiki?

it is true, and wiki says it on the movement speed page:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Movement_Speed

Only the highest value from equipment counts.

edit: beaten, damn
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By Godfry 2025-05-17 14:34:42
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Is Nynja using forum claim bot?
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By Dodik 2025-05-17 14:39:12
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Nynja's comment spawned red, I saw it.

Reported.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-17 14:48:06
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My bots >>>>> thorny's bots
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By Tarage 2025-05-17 14:52:41
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
It is

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Movement_Speed

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The effects of spells, abilities, and equipment stack up to the maximum movement speed of +60%. All sources stack additively, with several notable exceptions:

Only the highest value from equipment counts.
Mazurka and Quickening effects have a combined maximum value of 20%.
Bolter's Roll's effect is multiplicative with equipment, but not with other sources.
Right, and then zero mention down in the equipment section... I'll edit the wiki later to make such an important bit of information more visible.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-17 15:03:24
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Its already listed on the page. It doesnt need to be repeated everywhere.
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By Godfry 2025-05-17 15:06:03
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By Asura.Hadroncollider 2025-05-17 15:10:54
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the chicken knife aint bad. I did about 600 Shinryu VD solo by now and still need 4 drops. I honestly think about getting the knife just for that. more evasion and magic evasion and less money on panacea while having lower delay and movement speed to run back to target after knockback...
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By Lakshmi.Sahzi 2025-05-17 15:20:54
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Can anyone confirm if the chocobo dagger clucks when attacking? Like, in a super annoying way?
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By Dodik 2025-05-17 15:22:37
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Wiki says yes.
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By Asura.Sylveni 2025-05-17 16:38:21
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I now dub ultimate weapons as:

MEMePRA

Edit: considerations for PARMEMe's
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-17 16:43:28
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None of these are REMA tier though? PREAM? Whatever it is now.

Im not saying theyre bad or useless, theyre just not at that level. Even the best ones people are finding reasons for why they suck.
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By Dodik 2025-05-17 16:45:38
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Debatable.

If you go by the amount of +skill they have, they are REMA tier.

Previously only REMAs had +269 skill. Primes are special and go up to +277 at stage 5.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-17 16:59:28
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I didnt know that title was granted to weapons because of their +269 combat skill.
What did we call REMAS before RoV?

I thought they were standout weapons because theyre generally the pinnacle of their class (also because of unique effects specific to their brand and PITA requirements). Not every REMA topped the charts, but every S-tier weapon fell under one of the REMA banners.

None of these items are near the pinnacle of their class.

There are people arguing why some of the best ones (shield, horn for example) are actually really shitty. The only safe bet so far has been onion sword.
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By Dodik 2025-05-17 17:03:48
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It's more a general tier of weapon, not a process description.

They don't come from where REMAs come from, but the relative skill gain, which translates to base acc and macc and so forth, is at the same tier as weapons that are REMAs.

Is my point.

Not all REMAs are good but they're still REMAs.
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By K123 2025-05-17 17:11:44
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Dodik said: »
It's more a general tier of weapon, not a process description.

They don't come from where REMAs come from, but the relative skill gain, which translates to base acc and macc and so forth, is at the same tier as weapons that are REMAs.

Is my point.

Not all REMAs are good but they're still REMAs.
Remember when they said they'd boost the ***relics to balance them and never did?
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By Asura.Sylveni 2025-05-17 17:14:58
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
None of these are REMA tier though? PREAM? Whatever it is now.

Im not saying theyre bad or useless, theyre just not at that level. Even the best ones people are finding reasons for why they suck.

They've ascended to that level in ethos ' ='.

Prime, Relic, Empy, Mythic, Aeonic. And now, Meme weapons.

MEMePRA/PARMEMe's.
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By Nariont 2025-05-17 17:20:45
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Remember when they said they'd boost the ***relics to balance them and never did?

I wanna say that was before the reforge process, which kinda did that(if you take away TP bonus options), then they mentioned fixing the relic ws and they did... by placing it on a whole other weapon
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By K123 2025-05-17 17:21:15
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Where does the shield come in order of calculation? Like for berserk is it additive with duration gear or multiplicative at the end? I see people saying it allows berserk and aggressor to be up full time which implies the latter?

Also the web page for Conquerer is confusing. It says it takes berserk from 25% to 33.5% but the base value at 99 is 35% already? Is this just not updated and it actually takes it from 35% to 43.5%?
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By Tarage 2025-05-17 17:22:28
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They are listed in game as Bonanza weapons yeah? PREBAM? BRAMEP? PRABEM sorta sounds like "problem"...

Edit: Oh god... BRAPEM.
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By Dodik 2025-05-17 17:23:57
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Obviously REMABPs.

Edit: Reported.
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By Nariont 2025-05-17 17:25:43
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K123 said: »
Where does the shield come in order of calculation? Like for berserk is it additive with duration gear or multiplicative at the end? I see people saying it allows berserk and aggressor to be up full time which implies the latter?

Just assuming so could be mistaken and ill get corrected hopefully but for zerk should be multiplicative at the end since theres no additional +% duration gear for zerk so all the +second gear first then +25%, for things like circles should just stack with whatever is available, i.e pld feet + shield should be a 75% increase
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By K123 2025-05-17 17:31:47
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Nariont said: »
K123 said: »
Where does the shield come in order of calculation? Like for berserk is it additive with duration gear or multiplicative at the end? I see people saying it allows berserk and aggressor to be up full time which implies the latter?

Just assuming so could be mistaken and ill get corrected hopefully but for zerk should be multiplicative at the end since theres no additional +% duration gear for zerk so all the +second gear first then +25%, for things like circles should just stack with whatever is available, i.e pld feet + shield should be a 75% increase
You're right, they are +seconds. For berserk +8.5% attack Vs duration is hard and of course context dependent. For warcry I'm not even sold on the idea. I like to warcry when I have tp to use for the first ws. Losing tp to start before using it means I reckon you only ever get an extra 2 ws with the shield (naegling) at best
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By paladinepsot 2025-05-17 17:33:26
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Tarage said: »
They are listed in game as Bonanza weapons yeah? PREBAM? BRAMEP? PRABEM sorta sounds like "problem"...

Edit: Oh god... BRAPEM.

PERMAB... Now we just need "Ascended" and "Noble" weapons.


Chicken chat: I actually kinda wish I got this for bard evasion pulling. Moving movement speed off of pants and onto a dagger that also has BIS evasion would mean a gain of 81 eva from choco/empy over gleti/carmine
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By Asura.Sylveni 2025-05-17 17:55:31
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BRAP-EM
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By Godfry 2025-05-17 18:16:26
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paladinepsot said: »
Tarage said: »
They are listed in game as Bonanza weapons yeah? PREBAM? BRAMEP? PRABEM sorta sounds like "problem"...

Edit: Oh god... BRAPEM.

PERMAB... Now we just need "Ascended" and "Noble" weapons.


Chicken chat: I actually kinda wish I got this for bard evasion pulling. Moving movement speed off of pants and onto a dagger that also has BIS evasion would mean a gain of 81 eva from choco/empy over gleti/carmine

Don't try to justify it. Just suck it up now and admit you made a mistake!
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By SimonSes 2025-05-17 18:32:38
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PERMA B__

Two more sets of weapons and server shutdown guys
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By Tarage 2025-05-17 18:36:45
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SimonSes said: »
PERMA B__

Two more sets of weapons and server shutdown guys
You're late.
paladinepsot said: »
Tarage said: »
They are listed in game as Bonanza weapons yeah? PREBAM? BRAMEP? PRABEM sorta sounds like "problem"...

Edit: Oh god... BRAPEM.

PERMAB... Now we just need "Ascended" and "Noble" weapons.


Chicken chat: I actually kinda wish I got this for bard evasion pulling. Moving movement speed off of pants and onto a dagger that also has BIS evasion would mean a gain of 81 eva from choco/empy over gleti/carmine
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