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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-17 11:20:53
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Sylph.Snk said: »
I caved and got the Polearm. While I have Rank 15 Relic, Aeonic, Emperyan & Mythic, I'm having serious fun with this new one.

Should be the ultimate "oshi" polearm to keep wyvern alive. Looks pretty cool, don't have to resort to Spirit Bond and ride Spirit Link timers. I looked at it and thought it was interesting to have
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By Godfry 2025-05-17 11:27:39
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character value isn't equal to the sum of its parts, it's always less because no buyer wants exactly what's on it and recalls are a huge concern when buying an account that was originally played for fun

Not true. If you want to buy a paladin and the account has both, paladin and bard, you will have to pay for the bard. The account is legit the sum of its parts.

Of course for a person who wants to buy a very specific account will not be interested in putting money on other content in the account. It doesn't mean he will get the other stuff for free. Every single equipped job, rema etc contribute to the price of the account.

I must say that you having the Bonanza available will increase the price. Not having it will not make it cheaper.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-05-17 11:36:22
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Godfry said: »
Not true. If you want to buy a paladin and the account has both, paladin and bard, you will have to pay for the bard. The account is legit the sum of its parts.

If you buy an account with PLD+BRD, it costs more than an account with just PLD. It doesn't cost as much as it would to have the entire BRD added to the PLD account.

If you buy an account with 30 RMEA, you aren't paying for 30 RMEA. It's probably similar in price to creating 8-10 RMEA from scratch.

The cost is less than the sum of the parts. Each individual part gets a value reduction because it's only worth what someone will pay for it, and most buyers don't give a ***that you made 8 crappy RMEA for DRG and PUP. The part adds value, but it is not comparable to what it would cost on its own.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-17 11:36:56
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Meh. If I'm looking for PLD and you have all 22 m50, I'm just going to find the guy who will sell a pld, and not ***I don't need.
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By Godfry 2025-05-17 11:40:48
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Godfry said: »
Not true. If you want to buy a paladin and the account has both, paladin and bard, you will have to pay for the bard. The account is legit the sum of its parts.

If you buy an account with PLD+BRD, it costs more than an account with just PLD. It doesn't cost as much as it would to have the entire BRD added to the PLD account.

If you buy an account with 30 RMEA, you aren't paying for 30 RMEA. It's probably similar in price to creating 8-10 RMEA from scratch.

The cost is less than the sum of the parts. Each individual part gets a value reduction because it's only worth what someone will pay for it, and most buyers don't give a ***that you made 8 crappy RMEA for DRG and PUP.

Your original argument wasn't that REMAs all cost different prices. They do. The reason why 30 remas won't add the same price to the accounts is because they have different levels of usefulness.

A pup will add a lot less to the price but it will add its share.

The cost is not less than the sum of its parts. You are blurring concepts together and that's why you are making that claim. If you have, for example, full decked BARD, PLD, RUN, RDM it will cost 4x the price of the account just having PLD.


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Meh. If I'm looking for PLD and you have all 22 m50, I'm just going to find the guy who will sell a pld, and not ***I don't need.

Yeah... it doesn't mean you will get the account with BARD, PLD, RUN, RDM for the same price. You wanting to buy a Camaro does not make the Ferrari cheaper.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-05-17 11:44:36
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Godfry said: »
The cost is not less than the sum of its parts. You are blurring concepts together and that's why you are making that claim. If you have, for example, full decked BARD, PLD, RUN, RDM it will cost 4x the price of the account just having PLD.

That's just not true when it comes time to actually find a buyer, because there isn't an infinite supply of buyers who want exactly what you have to offer. The pricing is psychological, you can't just say your RMEA/gear are worth this and demand it; nobody will buy it. There's actually a very narrow pool of people who want to buy high end accounts, so the more things you put on it the less likely you'll get full value for any of them.

A RMEA BRD or GEO with the essentials sold by a reputable seller is going to get top dollar for every bit of effort you put into it. If you add 3 melee jobs and RMEA to the same account, you're probably not going to get back half of what they cost in additional sale price. You can ask for it and keep waiting, but that doesn't mean someone will pay.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-17 11:53:23
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Yeah... it doesn't mean you will get the account with BARD, PLD, RUN, RDM for the same price. You wanting to buy a Camaro does not make the Ferrari cheaper.

When everyone keeps buying camaros and the ferrari sits on the lot for a year, it does in fact make the ferrari cheaper.
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By Godfry 2025-05-17 11:54:47
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That's just not true when it comes time to actually find a buyer, because there isn't an infinite supply of buyers who want exactly what you have to offer. The pricing is psychological, you can't just say your RMEA/gear are worth this and demand it; nobody will buy it. There's actually a very narrow pool of people who want to buy high end accounts, so the more things you put on it the less likely you'll get full value for any of them.

That is very true. I have been buying and selling decked out accounts for a while. Unless you are talking about people desperate to sell the account because they need money, they will hold onto to the account if you bring the "I only want the bard in it" argument.

The usefulness of the jobs on the account will always increase the price by the same amount. The argument "oh, but I just want the the RUN in that account" will not get you a discount. There is even the concept of Sortie-Ready jobs.

Now, I am not saying that if an account with PLD cost $1k, an account with 4 useful jobs will cost $4k. A PLD account does not cost $1k because of the PLD. It's because of Oddy progress, Sortie progress, if you have muffins available, nyame ranks etc.

Suppose that the account with no jobs cost $1000. The account having PLD (with all paladin JSE) will add $500, if the account has BARD (with bard JSE) you will not get the bard for $250... you will pay full price for the bard.

Asura.Eiryl said: »
When everyone keeps buying camaros and the ferrari sits on the lot for a year, it does in fact make the ferrari cheaper.

SleepyKnight, known for selling ferraris for 2 decades, almost never has them available. He puts up a $4-5k account on his website and you have less than a day to buy it.

My ferrari accounts never even get announced. I tell a few people Im selling it and there are always buyers for it. The game itself is run by dollars.


Edit: Tying this to the topic - Having the Bonanza available will definitely make the account more interesting.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-05-17 12:13:30
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Godfry said: »
Now, I am not saying that if an account with PLD cost $1k, an account with 4 useful jobs will cost $4k. A PLD account does not cost $1k because of the PLD. It's because of Oddy progress, Sortie progress, if you have muffins available, nyame ranks etc.
Yes, most of the cost comes from general progress not specific RMEA. I agree fully on that.

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Suppose that the account with no jobs cost $1000. The account having PLD (with all paladin JSE) will add $500, if the account has BARD (with bard JSE) you will not get the bard for $250... you will pay full price for the bard.
I think you're only looking at the highest end accounts on the market, where the buyer is paying for the best they can get. Once you go down one tier, you're marketing to people who want an additional mule more than folks who want a 'good' character for the sake of it being good.

It doesn't seem likely we're going to agree, but I'd look at it in the context of what the buyer wants. If you're selling an account with RMEA brd that isn't fully nyamed and top of the market, that's only appealing to someone who wants a quick BRD mule. Adding a yagrush and geared whm isn't going to add a ton of value, because most of your potential market already has a healer alt. The most extreme example of this is when you put multiple POL IDs on the same SE ID. You will never get the full value of every POL ID there, because the target audience is so small you'll end up compromising.

If you're selling something that's in the top 3 best on market, then you can set your price anyway. The whales will pay it, and you can get a reasonable bit of added value for anything you add.
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By Kaffy 2025-05-17 12:13:58
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i know some of you guys have made a living off of this game and even have some respect for that hustle, but please remember for others its just a hobby they are passionate about. there are plenty of other places to go for that.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-05-17 12:16:08
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Someone asked about it in the context of sitting on their bonanza kupon. I'll drop it, but in regards to the initial question, I don't think you should. Just use it for something that fits your jobs that you'll enjoy, your character isn't going to become worth massively more because you saved it.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-05-17 12:22:41
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Day 2 of indecision. There’s a senseless war outside with other players struggling with theirs. What did SE do to us? Why would they put us in this predicament? How can we live with ourselves after we finally decide? There has to be a way forward for us all. One day, we’ll look back and laugh at how difficult it was to choose. For now, I sit in this trench, my brain whirling as I drink my tea. We can get through this if we stick together.
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By Godfry 2025-05-17 12:28:02
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Kaffy said: »
i know some of you guys have made a living off of this game and even have some respect for that hustle, but please remember for others its just a hobby they are passionate about. there are plenty of other places to go for that.

I'm not making a living out of it. I've sold my accounts due to necessity. I don't make a profit on it. I come back to the game when I can and sell the account when I have to.

The argument is related to the topic and I am not violating the rules of forum.
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By Asura.Sylveni 2025-05-17 12:54:38
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Day 2 of indecision. There’s a senseless war outside with other players struggling with theirs. What did SE do to us? Why would they put us in this predicament? How can we live with ourselves after we finally decide? There has to be a way forward for us all. One day, we’ll look back and laugh at how difficult it was to choose. For now, I sit in this trench, my brain whirling as I drink my tea. We can get through this if we stick together.


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By Lakshmi.Sahzi 2025-05-17 12:57:05
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Dear lord what happened to this thread?

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By Asura.Saevel 2025-05-17 12:59:08
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Sylph.Snk said: »
I caved and got the Polearm. While I have Rank 15 Relic, Aeonic, Emperyan & Mythic, I'm having serious fun with this new one.

Should be the ultimate "oshi" polearm to keep wyvern alive. Looks pretty cool, don't have to resort to Spirit Bond and ride Spirit Link timers. I looked at it and thought it was interesting to have

If he dies, he dies. (in fake Russian accent)
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By Asura.Yankke 2025-05-17 13:04:59
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I'm lost, they giving these weapons for free now?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-17 13:09:42
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Yup, log in

Then join the deathbattle picking one and explaining why
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By Godfry 2025-05-17 13:13:19
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Asura.Yankke said: »
I'm lost, they giving these weapons for free now?

If you don't pick the shield your account will devalue by $100 thousand Windurst money...
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-17 13:15:47
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It's these kinda of comments (on reddit, you slackers) that I wanted more of.

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i picked the chocobo knife for some reason and i instantly regretted it and have been thinking about it ALL DAY. im a wreck.
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By Godfry 2025-05-17 13:16:46
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
It's these kinda of comments (on reddit, you slackers) that I wanted more of.

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i picked the chocobo knife for some reason and i instantly regretted it and have been thinking about it ALL DAY. im a wreck.

The lockstyleset alone is worth it on that knife!
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By Dodik 2025-05-17 13:21:56
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Day 2 of indecision. There’s a senseless war outside with other players struggling with theirs. What did SE do to us? Why would they put us in this predicament? How can we live with ourselves after we finally decide? There has to be a way forward for us all. One day, we’ll look back and laugh at how difficult it was to choose. For now, I sit in this trench, my brain whirling as I drink my tea. We can get through this if we stick together.

Do a Dodik and leave the vouchers in your inventory unused.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-17 13:23:45
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Trade the voucher to the moogle then back out. He will convert it to a key item that you can never lose unless you use it. I'd rather have a KI than a disposable kupon, with my luck, I'd accidentally try to throw away a Fenrite and it would skip up to the kupon, then I would R0 and lose it in my recycle bin forever. Murphy's Law. Just don't allow it to ever happen.
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By Lakshmi.Sahzi 2025-05-17 13:40:55
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Godfry said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
It's these kinda of comments (on reddit, you slackers) that I wanted more of.

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i picked the chocobo knife for some reason and i instantly regretted it and have been thinking about it ALL DAY. im a wreck.

The lockstyleset alone is worth it on that knife!

Regretted it?!? Dude... wtf that dagger has a chicken on it. IS a CHICKEN!

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By Ultimaetus 2025-05-17 13:53:15
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chicken is the Bis choice for those who are touring for the story and have no interest in the grinds.
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By Godfry 2025-05-17 14:06:17
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Ultimaetus said: »
chicken is the Bis choice for those who are touring for the story and have no interest in the grinds.

Would have been my pick if it was all-jobs!
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By Asura.Sensarity 2025-05-17 14:15:30
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
It's these kinda of comments (on reddit, you slackers) that I wanted more of.

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i picked the chocobo knife for some reason and i instantly regretted it and have been thinking about it ALL DAY. im a wreck.
Have one straight from one of my alt's ls
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-17 14:18:30
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Oof indeed, poor guy
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By xdajokerx 2025-05-17 14:25:30
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https://youtu.be/wCDIYvFmgW8?si=i3jOlm_fTrV83v7G
I have been staring at my screen all morning trying to decide with this song on repeat.
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