RTX 5060s Announced.

Nah, his social influence in the world has elevated several times higher because of AI hardware. No one, except game nerds, cared about him when he only sell GPU to gamers back then.

These days he can wear leather jackets and stand on stage acting like he's Steve Jobs talking about AI stuff. And every big manufacturing company CEO and politicians listen to him talk below like he is Jesus alive, with media talking about him 3 days straight.

And all those social influence came from AI server, not 5090. Even if he wants social influence, consumer GPU doesn't offer them nearly as much.

Ok meta might be using 5nm but it definitely wouldn't be out of choice, they just don't have the might to get capacity on 3nm. Noone right now will be designing and making chips for 3nm that aren't already far down the design pipeline. I struggle to believe Nvidia got the demand wrong. Everyone was trashing the 5070 and 5080 since specs were released long ago. Could have been stuck into quantities they ordered before this, maybe, but they are far under market demand for 5090. I'd have bought a 5090 at £1800, maybe at £2000, but I'm not paying any more out of principle.

Don't then. 5090 is luxury item for rich people that can pay anything for the best, it's not a requirement to play games. You are not their target audience. You can play majority of games with lower settings with weaker GPU.

Seconded.

It's discretionary spending for a gamer, but it's a business expense and a write off to a professional. There really isn't any value to be found in a market where some of the consumers don't have to care about the cost. We can keep fooling ourselves with the pretty charts and graphs, but it's fallacy.

I only have the 3090 for AI. Same reason the demand is so high for the 5090. Prior to this I was happy with a 4GB AMD card for FFXI and emulators.

I posted it earlier .....

4060 Ti 8/16GB was already done. It's the exact same card with the only difference being memory and you can see when and where more memory starts to matter. And WTH you talking about 28G/s? 4060 TI is 288GB/s memory bandwidth. 5060 Ti is 448GB/s.

MB I thought it was normal vs OC. I didn't think 8GB cards were released to reviewers so I wasn't expecting to see anything before next week.




28 x 16 = 448? That not how it works?

You need to specify what your referencing to. In this case it's the memory bus speed measured in Gb/s clock.

Convert bits into Bytes we get 3.5GB/s per pin.
28/8 = 3.5

We have 128-bit width meaning 128 pins so 3.5 * 128 = 448 GB/s.

The other way is to do a per-package conversion, (28 * 32)/8 = 112GB/s per chip. Four chips gives us 4 * 112 = 448 GB/s.

28Gbps is the modules that nVidia purchased from their suppliers. The 5080 use's 32Gbps modules instead.

I arbitrarily picked the bus speed because 32 sounds better than 28, but I meant more bandwidth in general. Thanks for the breakdown though. I wasn't visualizing the configuration correctly.

https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-5080-super-rumored-to-feature-24gb-memory-rtx-5070-super-with-18gb-config

Says everything I was saying, e.g. 5060 should have used 3GB modules for 12GB, etc.

Nvidia have completely butchered this gen. If there are 2-3 years before 6000 series then I don't even expect desktop PCs to be anything like they are today by then. CAMM modules, etc.

Would it really be worth giving up speed and bandwidth for capacity here?

It was assuming they didn't use such low bus also I suppose.

I suppose they wouldn't have to, but the 5070 would look even more out of place if a 5060 had the same memory configuration. Plus the 5070 still runs out of memory so I assume a 12GB version of the 5060 ti would have the same issue.

Wow, I hadn't heard of CAMM modules until I read through this thread. However, I expect CAMM modules to be in thin laptops and less-likely to see them in ITX/mATX/ATX motherboards for desktop PCs. Still Interesting though

What other changes do you forsee to desk PCs in 2-3 years?

CAMM are nonexistent in the consumer desktop space. Some companies made them but ultimately there was very little demand, it's a solution looking for a problem. The two to four slot DIMM formfactor is just too useful and flexible, it'd be like trying to replace USB peripherals with a proprietary fruit branded... ohh wait. It's like MXM, useful for notebooks or embedded devices, scant everywhere else.