Using /check In-game (A Morality Topic)

Different cultures you say?

Well then, you'd think the culture that mandates you ask for permission before checking their pixels would put a yes/no prompt on the check function, considering the game was made in that culture, similarly how they have a yes/no prompt on trades, party invites, tractor, raise, etc.

The culture that made the game decided to not change the check message, not alter the check message, but instead opted to put a filter. Its almost as if the people who made the game, that are part of that culture, essentially said "skill issue, heres the filter if the message upsets you".

Or maybe, jussssst maybe, they understand that their beliefs don't get to dictate the choices and preferences for an entire globe's worth of players, and knew it just wasn't that big of a *** deal to 95% of said planet.

What's this WE bs, WE were in gradeschool. Unless you're like 18-20 years older than most of the aging FFXI population, WE didn't do ***to the wall.

This ***is like boomers trying to claim they beat Adolf.... TF you on?

This right here is the crux of what the "snowflake-haters" seems to like to ignore. And the main issue at hand.

Plus yea, deciding to be a dillweed about treating others with respect, when they mention something bothers them, wether they are a stranger or not, and wether the offensive action is truly harmful or not is irrelevant. Grow the *** up, if someone said your actions bothered them, it's just considered an act of respect and maturity to avoid acting like that with them anyways. *** grow up.

Edit: repeatedly checking someone that has specifically and politely asked you not to, is harassment by any metric of civil politeness.

Talk about snowflakes, y'all are more worried about "being able to do what I want".... Again I say, grow the *** up you immature ***.

It's like you've never heard of debate or discussion before. I can break it down for you if you'd like, but it's rather demeaning to have to explain the absolute junior high school basics.

If we disagree on a point (that people should find a way to ignore bad behavior) in FFXI, then I provide a different example outside of FFXI. If you agree with the different point, AKA women shouldn't find ways to ignore bad behavior in real life, then YOU explain why it's not acceptable to ignore bad behavior IRL but it is acceptable to ignore it in game.

This is how you debate a topic. You pick different situations that are similar and try to find common ground, or flesh out yours/your opponent's points of view.

You pointing out that the scenarios are different is incredibly stupid and childish. I know they're different, that's why I chose them, that's the whole *** point. I'm not equating them, in fact I'd say I'm doing the polar opposite, I'm saying these things are NOT THE SAME...do you agree about this one? Then why not agree about that one?

Or you can just be intentionally obtuse for the memes, I guess. Doesn't seem very intellectually honest, but I guess that's where we're at.

Very well said Maletaru.

Yes, because we all the know standard way of demarking generations historically has been what video game they play.

Hey dude. There are folks on Social Security playing this game (and playing it well, not talking about myself here^^), so expand that tunnel vision just a hair and then we can start.

Well maybe YOU should clarify how old you are before start lumping US into your WE group. Damn cel, normally you're a pretty mature person, you're talking like an edge lord, so it's no wonder I mistook your age based on what age the MAJORITY of XI players are. This is cut and dry. Nothing to do with snowflakes, just basic ***a mature fellow like yourself should have *** figured out by now.

Edit: just to clarify, YOU are part of the generation that dropped the wall? May I ask how you partook specifically in the effort to do so? Or were you just born earlier than when the wall fell (as I was) and want to act like your direct activism had a major impact on the wall? Or are you just trying to claim glory for the accomplishments of others of your generation? Or are you full of ***on this point and just tripling down?

source:

The person throwing around "grow the *** up you immature ***" is triggered over the in-game status message of "Nameはあなたをじっと見つめた。"


aaaaaand Maletaru is once again equating the FFXI /check message to looking up a womans skirt.

No you dumb ***, I am just pointing out how much of a little *** you're acting over this.

This thread was opened with the of if the OPs action was moral or not and we were given 0 information/context. Whether this intentional or not doesn't matter at this point.


And later OP reframed the original intent.


Which is already borderline a jerk move considering he's supposed to be in combat and paying attention. But this is also still not the actual issue.

We find out the whole story from wingath who was kind enough to not only get their story translated, but also nagivate an english website that (I argue) most JP players don't use/even know about. And OP confirms this is what actually took place and uses excuses as a defense. Which I'll spoiler as it'll make this post extremely long.
On top that, OP wasn't told by just 1 person, but by several and all within the same linkshell.


OP started the thread about the /check action itself, but the issue was never that, it was about repeated behavior.

Let me use the example of inviting a friend over to your house who doesn't wipe their shoes. Tracks dirt/mud/etc all over the floor. You tell them you don't mind them wearing shoes inside the house but ask them kindly to just wipe them when they enter. They tell you that noone else asks them to do such(this is a lie) and chooses to not wipe their shoes entering your house. Would you brush this off and let it be or stop inviting them over?

Or you go to a restaurant and maybe not necessarily a friend, but an acquaintance across the way just stares at you even after asking them to stop, at what point does it get under your skin?

Take your pick of either scenario doesn't matter, in the end, OP was requested to stop a specific behavior and chose to not stop and continue to be disrespectful. In my book he's a jerk that I would also leave and stop helping. In line with the topic title, it is immoral imo.

And the other 2+ pages of this thread never left this comment which missed the whole mark.

/c Draugo

You are absolutely correct, I got confused between this thread, and the one posted in the WHM sub. My bad.

Now were equating the /c function in FFXI to wearing muddy shoes in someone elses house lmao


but hey, theres a solution to that:
aka: kick them out your house.

But not before a lil bit of this:

Still missing the point, its not the /c that I am arguing about, it's the intentional disrespect to another person to continue actions at someone who has specifically requested, politely I might add, to stop behaving in that manner, and continuing to do so just "cuz I can, suck it snowflake". That is antisocial behavior that a emo 12 year old will partake in. So yea, that's the *** point.

The examine feature was designed this way and naturally inherited this habit among a specific region of players. The game was made in that culture yes, but I am pretty sure jerks like OP's behaviour were not a top priority to MANDATE a prompt, lmfao, dude.

Pixels pixels pixels, you like that word. Different players immerse themselves in various way with the game. What's trivial for you could be significant for others.

You are bringing arguments to this topic to discuss the examine feature in a generic manner, while this is not the case anymore, after OP bullshitted his side of the story, where it turned out he was an idiot in many forms. Had it been otherwise, then ya, but it is not.

On a personal note, I've been slapped before for examining Japanese players and friends, wherein the slaps were a reactive response or humorous one respectively, sometimes a /blush from close friends.

It's really not that big of a deal as you make out to be, try to relax.

This is exactly what happened to the OP more or less and why he came here asking the question in the first place, I'm glad you understand and agree ;)

I dont see where OP said he got kicked from the LS, unless someone else posted it, I was only looking through OP's posts.


OP's story full of lies
JP story is 100% factual, they would never lie lol


Can we come up with some more absolutely bonkers equivalences of /checking someone in FFXI?
We've got upskirting, we've got dragging muddy boots across someones floors, we can do better.

I have never been examined in-game, not a single time in over 20 years of gameplay.

Cele, however, he gets examined a lot.

But Cele doesn't give a ***, and Aron is an adult who knows Cele isn't Aron, so both sleep fine and without a care or worry.

Jesus.... Get the *** point already.

that's what we're hoping.


You're hoping for Conversion; we just want Relaxation.

Saying the lords name in vain is deeply offensive.

Just block him, you won't be able to see him say it in vain.

It's not that he lacks the comprehending ability, it's just really hard to argue with bias, prejudice, and bigotry.

Cele likes to shitpost sometimes, ask him what happened when he ran his Cele ***talking in Lex's Inquisition/Gunslingers LS during events, when Lex's wife/gf Xiutaru told him off to stfu and do his job properly (very similar to how OP didn't do his job properly lol) then went EMO and quit the LS, and changed server... lmfao remember that Cele? :D good times in Bahamut man...

You should relax too Cele :)

The difference is that I'm being sarcastic when I say that.

You're actually spooked over "Nameはあなたをじっと見つめた。"

Superb, this is exactly what I was looking for. /c is what Nazi's do. /c is literally sieg heiling!

Its right in the command if you look deep enough: / is the arm, c is the hand. It only took three bonkers equivalences to get to "its literally Hitler"