Using /check In-game (A Morality Topic)

Are we talking /check specifically in certain situations like you described (during combat, backline constantly checking to judge and neglecting their job) or checking in general? I get it, it can be annoying, just like the death check to judge the lack of -DT in your WS set.
However, jokes on them - they most likely botting or they wouldn't have the time to check random people mid combat.

Thing is you need to check in order to see peoples bazaars and many people afk for the purpose of looking at their bazaar. There is no way I'm going to ask for permition to take a quick glance at their wares, if that's a realy issue for JP players why haven't they escalated it to the attention of developers so they could simply remove the message displayed when getting examined or block people from beeing able to examine them?


If someones equipment is too weak for the content it will be obvious, no need to check mid battle.
unless you have a kraken club model equiped, at that point it's a duty to /check to confirm it's not just a octave club or, god forbid, a shellbuster!

Not during that specific Omen fight, no. But yes I check other people all of the time and they are not bothered.

Well this person is a LS/Linkshell member. Not a stranger.

The topic question posed the question it if is okay to use /check at any time, even during combat when idle (like I was on White Mage at the time).

Without /check, it is impossible to see someone's title, bazaar, ML/Master level (if not anon), current linkshell name, and equipment, so I don't think it is going away soon. Perhaps they could add another user feature config to prevent it though like POL Away prevents tells, but it's up to SE.

I accidentally deleted the original post. Here is the original text:

I don't think it was really an accident. I heard from some LS members later that you had also /checked a few other people too, right?

"Not during that specific Omen fight, no. But yes I check other people all of the time and they are not bothered. "

That's not true. Other LS members have also warned you about using /check.

So, just to make sure
Is it the chat log spam that upsets you? Would you be equally upset if someone did
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And spammed chat?

Or is it because of how the /check message is worded on the JP client?

I also just tested, you can /blist someone and their check message will stop showing up on your client.

The Me Too movement hits FFXI ten years later

johnb even if you honestly forgot being asked not to check, you could have simply apologized instead of doubling-down and trying to deflect blame away from yourself.

wingath thank you for coming here and going through the trouble of translating posts to share your side of the story. I appreciate the time and effort and wish we had more communication between our JP and NA players.

Spamming /check in the middle of a fight instead of paying attention to the fight itself is very....... Amateurish. As many people have said, gear swaps happen, you're not seeing anything special. And the weak excuse of checking out bazaars is not even close to cutting it. You shouldn't be shopping in the middle of a boss fight.

Thank you for all your thoughts and opinions.
I actually had a few other close friends who weren’t Japanese. Most of them have quit the game, and I really miss them.
FFXI has been running for a long time, so I guess it’s natural that the player base slowly decreases.

As fellow players, I hope we can all try to understand and respect each other's manners, even if our perspectives differ depending on our countries or cultures.

Regarding the recent issue, I don't think the problem is the use of /check itself, but rather using it during content without focusing on your role. That’s what I see as the real issue, and it’s unfortunate that he didn’t understand that.

This was my first time using this forum, so I apologize if the thread got split or if I wasn’t using it properly.

They actually did remove it in xiv because it was an issue in xi lol In xiv the check msg no longer exists and the new nameplates that are customizable are able to be hidden from general public iirc.

In japanese the /check is worded "Nameはあなたをじっと見つめた。" and the /stare emote is worded "NameはNameをじっと見つめた･･････！" quite literally the same. じっと jitto means motionless or intently and 見つめた mitsumeta means to stare. It's not quite as innocent as the english examine.

It's 2025 and y'all still take offense to this?

If we're going back to 2007, then I want 2007 Five Guys prices. Otherwise, we solved this one when our chars were at 75 cap in my opinion.

Someone staring at you intently will still be weird in 3025.

You should've asked "Is it OK to check people at any time, even during combat when idle, AFTER SOMEONE TELLS ME EXPLICITLY NOT TO CHECK THEM?" and you might've gotten a more honest and complete answer.

Side note: you can see someone's ML with /search. You need to hit + to see "additional info" and bam there it is.


More extremely dishonest framing. It's obvious from the additional context your LS has provided that it wasn't about ONE TIME but it was about a pattern of behavior, including after being explicitly told about this pattern of behavior. So um...no, it's not a problem with "one time" that you did something, actually. You knew this, and the audience didn't know this, and you chose not to share it. I wonder why.

Now I was giving the OP the benefit of the doubt until I read these. And I'll share a bit.


I was naive back in the old days before learning JP culture and back then when there was no lockstyle many players would intentionally change gear to blink their character when checked as they didn't like being checked, their choice. But, I've never seen a person with a bazaar have an issue unless maybe you /check without actually going into the bazaar, as that chat msg also exists.

But now I reside in a JP ls and have for quite some many years and everyone has always asked to check gear first, both due to etiquette and out of respect. We are quite close knit at this point so it's not much if a deal, but our LS leader has on occasion unprompted /check myself and others before and we jokingly call it out in ls chat as a "AH I'm embarassed!" or that he's a peeping tom.

And while you may not take an Omen boss seriously many other people still do it doesn't matter if you can steamroll it or not. Many of the JP community still intend to play at a high skill even in lower end content. Even the other day I was in a pug Ody C seg run as Sch (which I am basically afk for 30min) and waited until after the run to ask the brd if I could see their eva/tanking gear as my own brd feels very squishy compared.

/stares intently at Seun. With extra Intent, more intent than has ever been intended before.

Skill issue on the snowflakes part.

If youre so offended by the message, turn on the filter. Otherwise youre just asking to be triggered by your micro aggressions. Its a *** video game.

That's a bit like a woman catching someone looking up their skirt and saying "you can solve that by closing your eyes, then you'll never see anyone looking up your skirt! Skill issue."

...Obviously the seriousness of the two is extremely different. The suggested solution is the same though; "Just ignore the behavior you don't like and even though it's still happening, at least you won't be aware of it."

It's not about someone being offended at being /checked, it's about someone disregarding all of their LS member's requests.

Repeat after me:

ITS
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VIDEO
GAME

“Muh pixels are being stared at”

Guy literally strawmanned sexual assault (taking upskirts falls under SA, right?) vs an in game check function.

My word


Nvm it wasnt taking pics, just leering. Point still stands.

Tbh I agree with Maletaru, I literally wrote this just before lol We are talking about Japanese culture, not western. /shrug

I'm so confused, but if you don't want someone looking up your skirt you should definitely not wear a short skirt or walk up steep or tall stairs or stairwells. If a man wore shorts so short their *** hung out of them women would look. Just sayin.

Wow wow this is Anti-dwarfism prejudice ! TaruTarus physically can't /check people any other way !
Do they enjoy it ? Yes most likely.
But still, it's a "serious" physical disablity, just as "serious" as this thread.

Or god forbid I wore a Kilt on some stairs the traditional way.

Pls dont

You mean what I think you mean, right?