Hey all, wow this thread became a bit longer than I would have originally expected! Sorry I wasn't able to reply back to the more recent posts due to work and other family/real life matters. I wouldn't be able to respond to everyone who posted, but I mainly wanted to conclude the thread with saying thank you to everyone for all the info and insight that was provided.
My intent on creating this thread was not just solely for myself or which Aeonics im going to make, as I was gonna make those other couple Aeonics regardless of whether I made Lionheart or not. While yes I was originally considering making Lionheart, I was also looking at this as a standpoint for other current and future players who take up RUN to help them determine which REMA would be worth their time. Which at this point I think is pretty clear for those players, it's going to be Epeolatry. Lionheart doesn't honestly seem worth it anymore from what nearly everyone on here has said.
Since I already had Epeo years before making this thread, my main focus wasn't so much about that, rather if Lionheart was still a decent DD weapon for RUN in 2025 like it was back in the 2016-2018 era of FFXI. The main reason I made this thread is because all the info I read online about Lionheart seemed to be from back in the Rhapsodies era praising it and I couldnt find any current info on if the weapon had aged well or not since then. I'm sure many other upcomming players on RUN probably ran into the same problem, so that was my main intent here was creating a source of information to answer this question once and for all. Which you all did a great job of, thank you to Kylos and Saevel especially for providing very specific detailed info on this topic.
Now there is one comment I need to address cause while normally I wouldn't care about stuff like this, and as much respect as I have for you as a player on here over the years Draylo, this comment kind of left me and probably others on here with more questions than answers:
There a lot of misinformation in this thread
The reason I'm very confused with this comment is because you didn't provide any context at all to what you were referring to. I'm assuming it was about the Epeo outparsing Helheim post that was made earlier in the thread, but it could of been unrelated to that. It could of had something to do with Epeo vs Lionheart or Dimi vs Reso weapon skill choice wise. But myself and others would have no clue what you meant cause no context or details were provided at all.
Again I normally wouldn't care about something like this, I only do here cause this was meant to be an informative thread, and that comment really hijacks the thread in a learning/informative sense for people who are wanting to know what the best options are on this topic for RUN. You gotta remember there's a lot of people who read these posts and aren't veterans at the game. Those people aren't going to know what you're talking about and will become more confused on what the best choice would be for their RUN in this aspect. That you again Kylos for the follow up post there to try and clarify what Draylo was referring to.
Last thing I wanted to address here was about Helheim. While I did not bring up the prime great sword in my original post because I have zero experience with any primes weapons up to this point, I understand why it was brought up due to being a much more powerful alternative to Lionheart as a DD weapon for RUN. When Atrox78 made that claim about Epeo outparsing Helheim, I was very skeptical about it cause I'm well aware of the DPS stats online of all 3 of these REMA weapons and I know Helheim blows both Epeo and Lionheart out of the water when it comes to pure damage, especially at stage 5. But obviously Epeo is king when it comes to RUN tanking.
At that point in the thread no one else had responded to what he wrote and calling him out on that claim being pretty much ***. So I was just being friendly responding to what he said, while still skeptical of that claim he made. While I do agree Helheim would be a much better alternative to Lionheart at this point in the game, the prime weapons are much more difficult and time consuming to aquire than the Aeonics are. Me personally I'm not even close to being able to work towards any prime weapon, as I took a break from XI during 2024 and haven't been on the game since like late 2023. So I'm still pretty new to Sortie and I'm mainly focusing on my Empy +2/3 gear for my jobs atm.
Likewise as Kylos mentioned about other Aeonics being much better options for other jobs than Lionheart is for RUN, there are probably some other prime weapons that I would have more interest in aquiring and higher priority for my other jobs than Helheim for RUN. Although I currently don't know much about any of the prime weapons except for the staff, since SMN has been my original main/career job in XI. So I was researching that one compared to Nirvana regarding it's physical and magical avatar damage potential. Honestly if I was going to make a prime weapon at all, my first one would probably be the staff.
So yeah I know the prime convo was a bit off topic for this thread but I get why it was brought up, just not the original point of the thread though. I was mostly just trying to focus on how useful Lionheart was in modern XI, which I feel has been pretty firmly confirmed to not be very good anymore outside of some niche situations. Which myself and probably most others aren't going to waste time making a REMA just for niche scenarios. (or maybe as a cool style lock :P)
