Dispel On Hit Unity Greatswords?

Does anyone use Nullis +1 or Ushenzi +1 for the on hit dispel?

Seems really weird that there are 2 dispelling greatswords and 1 is specifically for DRK. Does anyone know if they are particularly very accurate, proc often, or there is any difference between the 2?

I'm absolutely bored and looking for silly projects, but I figured I'd ask before I start in case anyone already knew the answer.

Not seeing anything other than 1 rando saying the proc rate on Balmung(the non-ilvl version of nullis) was pretty high


Really only exists just cause the old NMs had one, and SE had all sorts of useless en-effect weapons back then

There's also https://www.ffxiah.com/item/21657/dyrnwyn-1 if you want to put those Balmungs to good use. Good luck!

I imagine they have similar proc rates to their level 75 era counterparts that they are based upon.

Chiefly the Lockheart/Mythril Heart Great Swords.

But then I don't see any data on those either, and macc and proc rates on additional effects were usually lower back then...

I have an NQ Ushenzi from when I farmed Glazemane (he is a PITA to solo on WAR btw) to make Kustawi +1 for my Ullr PLD... errr I mean for my COR of course.


I guess I could upgrade it and try it out on several things... Even though I should be hoarding gil to finish/R15 Farsha...

given balmung/nullis was from nidhogg/ilvl nidhogg if either of them were respectable rates id figure that one just cause it was from an HNM

Oh no, make that Farsha. I have one. They are great. I just picked up the NQ Nullis and i'll probably try it on crabs in bibiki bay. If you want to see the same with the other NQ then we can compare notes. I'll probably get around to doing this in the next week or so.

Edit: So very quick test on bibiki bay Locus Ghost Crabs. It takes the shell or defense boost off within the first or 2nd round frequently. It seems to proc on first or second hit of an attack round, didn't see any third swing attack rounds that dispelled but that seems unlikely to be different. Some of the time it took like 5~10 rounds. So higher rate and decent accuracy seems likely. I guess it could be extremely high rate and I just didn't have enough M.acc to land it.

My M.acc for the set was 188 magic accuracy skill on the NQ Nullis + 310 on gear.

While I was doing this Qultada was doing dark shot and missing consistently.

That's actually surprisingly decent

Stupid question: Does magic accuracy that you wear in gear affect the magic accuracy of the Additional Effect: Dispel on the great sword?

That's beautiful because it opens up EXPing on them without needing Full Break necessarily. (Though Full Break is still better though cause it makes Scissorguard not even work)

I guess I will go ahead and stop writing for a moment and go test NQ Ushenzi.

Promising. Fought about 10 Locus Ghost Crabs. Macc from gear +361 along with the +188 from Ushenzi.

Dispelled Scissorguard and Bubble Curtain fairly quickly. Usually within 4~5 attack rounds. Procs on second hit of Double Attacks and Weaponskills. Though the dispel is not applied at time of weaponskill, so WS damage will suffer. Sometimes took as many as 10+ attack rounds though.

Confirmed works in WS by auto attack damage. Auto attack damage is ~1200 for regular hits ~2430 for crits. When Scissorguard up, dropped to 400 and 900. Did a Resolution immediately after a Scissorguard and autos returned to 1200 range without any dispel animation.

It should

Slightly off topic, I miss additional effects. So many weapons had endrain, defense down, stun, an entire subset of battery/pump/fan powered enspell damage. Status bolts. Mostly relegated to the before times. (because everyone is expected to have a rema, they have no place to be anymore)

To my knowledge, yes. That's how all melee additional effects and break weaponskills work (except the WS that say, "Chance of inflicting depends on TP or whatever).

Ranged additional effects as well. See: Demon or Kabura arrows.

Especially sucks cause we actually have macc so that they could be decent if they were put back in.

Far as the gs goes, could try ambu ramuh and see how it fares on something like that, or escha genbu. If it lands on genbu its got some strong macc and/or isnt element aligned

I'd be curious to see how Spartan Bullets perform now.

I've tested them a while back in level cap and decided to use a stack of them recently that I've had lying around, with my regular ranged build as well as a ranged build topped off with as M.Acc as I can.

Testing against low level mobs (Efts) and working my way up towards Catoblepas and eventually Bight Rarabs in Bibiki Bay: The bullets seem to have always stunned on its first hit. After spamming the pants out of them, even with Double Shot active, none have been able to proc even I was filled to the brim to Magic Accuracy (aside from a Mule GEO) after the first initial stun.

What I did notice was that it works on an internal clock. I noticed every time I fought any enemy with enough HP, I counted the seconds on the Vanadiel Clock. Every 13 Vanadiel seconds (roughly 31 Earth seconds) in game I was able to proc a Stun on a Bight Rarab. Same is true for other mobs like a Matamata at the HP in Morimar. Anything before was met with regular hits. Could be unique to those bullets alone due to the fact it stuns.

I always keep these items just in case that magical days appears where you were like damn I wish I had this. The DRG polearm that adds Stun to jumps is a neat emergency thing if you dont have TP for leg sweep. We should compile all these cool weird weapons that might be useful.

I read somewhere the defense down Magian weapons are like tier 3 or 4 in defense down priority, meaning they overwrite/prevent almost all defense ups too.

If they unshackled Trials of the Magians, we'd get so many of these kinds of weapons back.

Silversean told me tested this and it's DEF-16%

Edit: sorry, accidental double-post.

Stun Jamadhars +1 and Shiva Claws both saved my life multiple times at 75 cap. Shiva Claws on Iceday was always good times.

Nitric Baselard lands on Shinryu VD as a RDM or Locus Mobs in KRT. It's nowhere as fast or consistent as the dispel on the greatsword i tested. Almost 20% defense down. I'd love an ilvl version of this.

the reisenjima t2 katana can be augmented with add. eff. stun, but I don't remember if it got resisted on anything beyond that era.

I played a bit with Jinx Discus a while ago. I landed it on some iLevel monster after a few tries. I can't remember if I tested it on NMs. If so, I wonder if you could land it on Odyssey bosses.

That'd be nuts if you could. 12.5% HP from curse application would be wild on something millions of HP.

what does the 1-9 mean? 1-9 seconds stunned or 1-9% chance to proc?

Can anything still attack with 6 NINs DWing these?


I've tried the jinxed discus too a while ago in abyssea, couldn't land it at all but now that I think of it me fool might have tested it around the doomed where the NM drops the weapon...

Would be nice if you wouldn't have to gear BST for the odyssey amplifier shenanigans.

not sure but I am playing ninja lately, will have to make a pair and test them

Has anyone tested the additional effect grips?

Ultio Grip also has a curse effect

Then there's the Platinum Grip +1 with stun. Couple others too, I think?

Ultio Grip still works, but not on anything good that i've been able to land. If someone figured out how to 'ooze' anything important, that would be news to me.