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Kalunga v25 static
By marlinselfish 2025-02-05 12:35:18
Hi all. Looking for a group that can work on getting a v25 Kalunga clear. LFM experienced Drk Whm Brd Geo Pld Run. Would like to run around 6-8 pm est a few nights per week. I am flexible on what nights. Rymann is my characters name on Asura give me a tell. Thank you.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-02-05 13:01:37
Good luck!
By Felgarr 2025-02-05 16:41:28
Good luck! (Has the Strat changed? I remember a doing this in 1 KI with a BLU and no RUN, but my memory is fuzzy).
By marlinselfish 2025-02-06 08:11:46
Yes that is another job group you can use. Not much has changed.
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By Bahamut.Senaki 2025-02-06 08:25:59
Best of luck!
By Taint 2025-02-06 09:10:10
Good luck! (Has the Strat changed? I remember a doing this in 1 KI with a BLU and no RUN, but my memory is fuzzy).
Yeah we slammed our head against Kalunga v25 until Maletaru suggested we run WAR and BLU. Was a MUCH easier fight with Mighty Guard.
Tomahawk, Warcry and Might Strikes is also very important to damage.
By K123 2025-02-06 09:26:45
So PLD BRD COR WHM WAR BLU?
By Shiva.Myamoto 2025-02-06 10:20:29
Good luck! (Has the Strat changed? I remember a doing this in 1 KI with a BLU and no RUN, but my memory is fuzzy).
Yeah we slammed our head against Kalunga v25 until Maletaru suggested we run WAR and BLU. Was a MUCH easier fight with Mighty Guard.
Tomahawk, Warcry and Might Strikes is also very important to damage.
This, 100%. We did the same. WAR+BLU is a strong pairing. But DRK still works for some, just didn't seem to for us. We did try at first but ended up swapping to WAR+BLU. There are many ways to accomplish it, ultimately its about what works for the group.
Also, good luck! Hope you find some interest.
By marlinselfish 2025-02-06 11:32:25
I will have to try the blue set up. Hard to find good blue's.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-06 12:03:48
It really is whatever works for your group. The issue I found the most early on before using BLU was a thing, was that getting something like Debilitating Spout later in the fight was a run ender. It was generally not a common thing to have happen, but it always seemed to happen towards the final stretch where we absolutely would have won otherwise. Even doing it the "BLU" way, I have had it happen to my group a few times.
As I've said before, the advantage of having a DRK is that it can pop Soul Enslavement on the final stretch and drain both Matamata TP, so that they'll never get a move off the entire fight. This at least completely removes one major annoyance factor from ever happening, if you opt for DRK in your group instead of BLU. From there, it's just killing Kalunga before someone caps hate.
There's pros and cons to any combination of jobs, so pick what you think works best for your group. Mine did it very early on with a very good DRK, but others have stated that BLU can be easier, though, as you mentioned, finding a BLU worth a damn in a non static scenario for that high level of a fight is a challenge in and of itself (on asura at that), so get whatever helps you out the best.
Also, sidebar conversation about BLU in Kalunga: Reaving Wind + Father Tickle don't land on either Matamata, at least not without maybe threnody. I wasn't able to land a single TP reset spell after about a dozen casts on both.
I have capped RP on Kalunga and don't need this clear anyways, but if you need a body for the fight, send me a tell. I have all the DDs/support for this fight and I don't mind doing a few here and there if I am free.
By SimonSes 2025-02-06 14:35:47
We did it with DRK BLU COR RUN PLD BRD.
PLD tanks adds and cures party. Blu helps to cure party in emergency situations. Pretty simple fight. Just need to look out for RUN not to get two shooted with some back to back TP moves.
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By Asura.Hya 2025-02-06 17:57:37
We did it with BST RUN WHM COR BLU BRD. I wouldn't recommend it for a pickup though. You'll never find a BST good enough to fill the role. Stick to WAR + BLU strat as others have mentioned.
By marlinselfish 2025-02-07 07:38:41
Thanks for all the feedback.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2025-02-07 07:51:33
Was the BST beast KI pet from the lobby and the slug for ooze/defense+attack down or was there more to it?
By SimonSes 2025-02-07 10:20:53
Was the BST beast KI pet from the lobby and the slug for ooze/defense+attack down or was there more to it?
TP drainkiss on matamatas probably.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2025-02-07 10:35:32
WAR, BLU, COR, BRD, PLD, RUN imo is the safest, most reliable Kalunga setup you can ask for.
Don't proc and you don't get Lahar'd and RUN has 0 risk of ever being 1 shot. If you're scared about back to back TP moves, save Battuta for final zerg (or save for a potential DEF down aura) with MS + Wild card resets for back to back Battuta usage. PLD use Priwen + fast cast set for Reprisal so even if PLD does get dispelled, they have good recasts on reprisal to get back up. Takes 0 damage from blocks to reduce TP feed. 0 luck in this strat, auras do not influence a win. With the right people you can 1/1 every time...
PLD + BLU heal, fulltime MG if kill speed is good, otherwise full time MG from 75% onwards and do entrust haste pre-buff for initial haste cap.
RUN 5/5 Vallation merits drastically reduces Searing Serration's damage + helps AoE party mitigation. Vallation/Valiance cannot be dispelled if used with 3 Runes beforehand so you have that fulltime SDT/MDT while cycling both JAs.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2025-02-07 10:50:43
WAR is definitely the way to go over DRK in my opinion, the damage from Mighty Strikes is just a complete game-changer for that last 40% where you're fighting the regen hard.
I dunno if this is still true with prime weapons in the mix, but originally the best weapon was R30 Ikenga Axe with Calamity.
save Battuta for final zerg (or save for a potential DEF down aura) People also underestimate the usefulness of parrying in general on this guy, probably in part because the log doesn't report parries against his attacks so you wouldn't know they're happening. I run full inquartata setup when tanking Kalunga, even when Battuta is down (Empy legs, Turms feet, Ambu cape with parry+5%, etc).
Don't proc and you don't get Lahar'd and RUN has 0 risk of ever being 1 shot. Wait he can only use Lahar if you proc him?
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By Taint 2025-02-07 10:56:11
Yes and if the Tank is at max range and the party behind at max range the fetters don't hit anyone.
We tried that method a couple times but with using pick up players it was easier in the end to just proc and play it safe. Aegis PLD in full meva/mdb does fine even when Lahared.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2025-02-07 11:01:42
Wait he can only use Lahar if you proc him? Yeah using the strat I wrote I'd genuinely have Kalunga as one of the easiest, most reliable V25s to clear. There is only 2 things that cause Kalunga wipes from my experience: Spout dispelling people or Lahar spam causing a time out/death. This strat nullifies both and has ton of party protection with a lot of dps.
DEF down aura is still scary not gonna lie, on my clear we had DEF down aura > Attack down and I fumbled and WS'd on RUN and initiated a proc lol, so we got Lahar'd and yeah... you do not want Lahar + DEF down aura, it's *** clenching scary. Outside of those 2 combo'd together it's chill.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2025-02-07 11:31:35
That's really interesting I had no idea, thanks!
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By Godfry 2025-02-07 13:26:36
Wait he can only use Lahar if you proc him? Yeah using the strat I wrote I'd genuinely have Kalunga as one of the easiest, most reliable V25s to clear.
My group when we did it and I was the PLD...
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-07 18:41:22
That is fascinating information about Lahar, using RUN+PLD for Tank+Adds Tank, and juggling heals with BLU+PLD. That sounds remarkably easier and innovative (idrk why we don't use PLD offtank more, or why it took so long for that to be the standard outside of Arebati).
Have a video of this setup? I already prefer this over any other version I have tried and haven't seen it yet.
By SimonSes 2025-02-07 19:19:43
why we don't use PLD offtank more, or why it took so long for that to be the standard outside of Arebati).
Bee has hate reset, so it would eventually turn to PLD and it will lose hate on adds.
Shark is easier to put adds on automaton and has normal healer and PUP for damage.
Mboze is tp on adds, so whole different fight all together.
Bird is mage setup, so also different.
Not sure how you missed this strat for Kalunga though. It's widely known. We used it to clear Kalunga like 2 years ago and it was already known back then.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-02-07 21:57:24
Shark is easier to put adds on automaton and has normal healer and PUP for damage.
I've sometimes wondered about Ngai, wouldn't having a PLD be a frontline healer combined with Rampart help prevent Tidal deaths? That seems to be the #1 cause of Ngai losses, at least the runs I've done (aside from people not removing the def down effect).
PLD could hold him while able and between hate resets, spam heals, and keep up Rampart to reduce likelihood of Tidal KOs. Since it's a KO below a certain % though, I'm not sure how or if it would play into the calculation. I knew folks who used a RUN for similar purposes for v20, but seems like PLD would be more effective if Rampart's SDT would apply before the Tidal damage calculation.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-07 23:19:10
Bee has hate reset, so it would eventually turn to PLD and it will lose hate on adds.
Shark is easier to put adds on automaton and has normal healer and PUP for damage.
Mboze is tp on adds, so whole different fight all together.
Bird is mage setup, so also different.
I wasn't speaking solely about T3s. Struggling groups would avoid a lot of problems by using a PLD to hold adds even on lower tiers, despite how much simpler the fights are. It takes the RDM babysitting via Bind/Gravity/Sleep rotation out of the equation and makes the fights more straightforward.
Not sure how you missed this strat for Kalunga though. It's widely known.
Oh, ok. Was not known to me.
By Felgarr 2025-02-07 23:48:50
Not sure how you missed this strat for Kalunga though. It's widely known. We used it to clear Kalunga like 2 years ago and it was already known back then.
I think it's common for many folks to hear certain strategies by word of mouth and then check sources of truth, like BGwiki, forums, etc, to verify what was said to them.
Unfortunately, BGwiki only lists the Kalunga v25 strat as PLD/DRK/WHM/COR/BRD/GEO strat: here
Otherwise, 'widely known' just doesn't mean anything.
By kasnuaku 2025-02-08 00:41:53
we used farsha war, drk, run,brd,cor whm*. good luck thou
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-08 00:50:08
We did it with BST RUN WHM COR BLU BRD. I wouldn't recommend it for a pickup though. You'll never find a BST good enough to fill the role.
Was the BST beast KI pet from the lobby and the slug for ooze/defense+attack down or was there more to it?
There's a few Beast pets you can use for Killer Instinct, all with unique benefits for the BST/party.
Pondering Peter (Rabbit): has a 2-charge AOE heal in Wild Carrot for emergencies/spot healing, especially if paired with a BLU. Gives WHM some breathing room. Peter could probably survive quite a beating over time by alternating Reward and Wild Carrot.
Vivacious Vickie (Raaz): Can apply 25% self-haste via Zealous Snort, so you're not disadvantaged when Mighty Guard wears off. Sweeping Gouge allows you to re-apply Defense Down at a lower potency than Corrosive Ooze when it wears off.
Vivacious Vickie (Lynx): Can apply 25% self-attack bonus via Frenzied Rage.
I wouldn't use the Sheep since the Berserk penalty is too dangerous.
You could start the fight with Generous Arthus, knock off a quick 10% health with Purulent Ooze, throw up Corrosive Ooze, then swap to one of the above Beast pets. At lower health or after a while when the first Matamata has been gaining a lot of TP over the fight, you can pop Fatso Fargann with Unleash, drain their TP, then cycle through other pets for buffs/KI refresh, or just sit with Fargann and babysit the adds. I think once or twice is fine, then maybe go back to Arthur fulltime. You're also practically never at risk of pulling hate as BST since DPS is lower (but steady), but moreso because you have Snarl to get rid of it.
I agree with Hya, though. You'll probably not be able to find any PUG BST capable of pulling all that off, but BST does have a lot going for it in that fight if you ever did happen to use one.
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By SimonSes 2025-02-08 02:21:19
Not sure how you missed this strat for Kalunga though. It's widely known. We used it to clear Kalunga like 2 years ago and it was already known back then.
I think it's common for many folks to hear certain strategies by word of mouth and then check sources of truth, like BGwiki, forums, etc, to verify what was said to them.
Unfortunately, BGwiki only lists the Kalunga v25 strat as PLD/DRK/WHM/COR/BRD/GEO strat: here
Otherwise, 'widely known' just doesn't mean anything.
I mean we used video as an reference if I remember correctly and that video was posted here too. I might look for it later. I consider if something was on both YouTube and here as widely known for this community.
Edit: This is probably first time it was mentioned. The video is made by well known here jp YouTuber.
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/54555/the-odyssey-strategy-and-discussion/213/#3652248
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2025-02-08 07:40:35
So Vickie is definitely the lowest maintenance because she can defense down and KI without a swap. Her auto's are blunt and sweeping gouge is also blunt which means you can keep her engaged for the tandem blow/strike benefits without any additional TP feed.
Peter is slashing with slashing footkick so you could actually use unleashed for damage, but you can also just use it for healing too. Idk if that damage contribution would look like much but empy head could go a long way since they fixed crits on pets.
Arthur is the most obvious go to with swaps. You can lobby a jug for KI and have beastial loyalty reset. Do KI before pull, leave that pet, get out Arthur with call beast. Now you still have beastial loyalty to get out another KI pet later in the fight and you can leave that pet and get out Arthur again with your next call beast without needing to rely on COR RD or WC during the fight at specific times. You get KI at the start, 10% HP off, and your next ready move is defense/attack down. I think that alone make this the go to for the beginning. I just don't love that his autos are slashing for tp feed(razor blades on his weird eye stalks or something). I don't think I'd engage him if I didn't need the accuracy and Unleashed is wasted on him, but ooze is only a minute and a half so he need to stay out to be useful.
Leech for draining adds isn't a bad choice, since you wouldn't need to do it very often because they are very slow. So if he dies, he dies.
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Hi all. Looking for a group that can work on getting a v25 Kalunga clear. LFM experienced Drk Whm Brd Geo Pld Run. Would like to run around 6-8 pm est a few nights per week. I am flexible on what nights. Rymann is my characters name on Asura give me a tell. Thank you.
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