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Infographics Pros & Cons of Pserver vs. Retail
Ragnarok.Casey
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 179
By Ragnarok.Casey 2025-01-29 14:58:31
Im pretty sure there was lots of proof posted the last Horizon thread I'm not sure I believe screenshots that were heavily cropped into convenient sections instead of an entire transcript
By Viciouss 2025-01-29 15:01:52
I never said it was fabricated or I didn't believe them, I simply said the legal cases seem extremely suspect. It gets even dicier if the Horizon launcher has a ToS that everyone has to agree to before playing. Which pretty much every online game does.
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Ragnarok.Casey
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 179
By Ragnarok.Casey 2025-01-29 15:02:30
Yeah, you're not wrong
By Setsuko 2025-01-29 15:06:02
Zero actual proof has been posted, it's just screaming into clouds.
There is a lot of proof between DMs, texts, and even videos, and obviously those things can't always be public + when things are made public, it gets twisted into "well they faked that image blah blah." The problem is that people who aren't even involved and don't have all the facts try to butt in and spread lies to invalidate any claim against these people.
When multiple people come forward with similar stories but you want to pretend there isn't an issue/your homie couldn't possibly have lied to you about what *really* happened (right???), you are part of the problem.
PS Also adding that when you defend a staff member guilty of deliberate doxxing for some petty revenge scheme, even after proof being shared, you aren't exactly showing that you have a good judge of character. Proof doesn't matter to you anyway.
Also just noting this guy ^ is friends with one of the individuals involved in both the harassment I received and with Spicyryan's doxxing, as well as spread misinformation himself (I saw the screenshots). OF COURSE hes going to defend those kinds of people. I also had a GM ticket against this guy for harassing me for something I wasn't even involved in so yeah not the guy who should be invalidating other women's experiences on here.
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By Zehira 2025-01-29 15:13:18
It's tough for women out there, with safety being a big concern. However, SE definitely has two women working for the FFXI community since 2015-2018 because most of time we see them. Maybe sticking to retail is a better option for women.
Though, I saw the OP's streaming videos. She is just an unpopular streamer who enjoys making short videos. Her fear might be real.
By RadialArcana 2025-01-29 15:46:39
Stressing the importance of making sure people know about the morbidly obese predators on server staff who target women, or the GM who constantly lies and gaslights to make sure they're always the victim/everyone else is the problem, though. I dont think private servers are going anywhere, but anyone considering playing on one should research that server's background before installing anything. Realize that theyll have your info, and they can and will find you irl when they want to seek revenge.
Keep in mind they can read everything you type in the game from the logs, in every form of chat. So if you give a friend in the game your telephone number or address, now they have it too (assuming they want to and have a reason to scrape though them to find it).
They have access to literally everything you can type and it's all logged and kept for future reading. ls, party, tells everything. Considering how childish and vindictive many of them are, that's not good.
By tannifae 2025-01-29 15:50:22
You do realize there are observers identifying some of you as private server representatives, right?
Your repeated pattern over the years acting unprofessionally and mishandling people hasn't gone unnoticed. Eventually, people see through it.
It’s no surprise you keep getting blacklisted.
You should seriously consider professional training in customer service. I highly recommend it than constantly treating players as the problem while running an unregulated server.
You're in a position of power. That comes with much more responsibility and pressure to prove yourselves even more.
It's a shame really.
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Asura.Mavira
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 16
By Asura.Mavira 2025-01-29 15:54:21
I’ll never get over a bunch of men telling multiple women everything that we’ve experienced on private servers was fabricated, or cropped, or insert next excuse here. Private servers can be fun with friends and the staff can be extremely shitty both are allowed ti be true. No one ever questioned any experience I had on retail but private server forget it, actual cultish behavior.
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By Zehira 2025-01-29 16:12:53
Never trust HorizonXI's customer service ever. It's simple. No, they don't get paid to be professional in everything else. I am on several different channels of discord regarding private servers. They are just regular folks who love to troll or funny memes just like we do on FFXIAH. That's unfortunately that you have trapped in without knowing what's really going on. It's nobody fault but yourself.
There has always been drama going on since HorizonXI launched just because how popular that private server is.
By tannifae 2025-01-29 16:19:12
HorizonXI has over 2,000 players, including minors as young as 16. Their website explicitly states a code of conduct, yet their staff fails to uphold it. Whether they’re volunteers or not, they represent the server and should act professionally. If they choose to troll or be unprofessional, that’s on them, not the players who expect fair treatment and was promised that.
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By Homsar 2025-01-29 16:20:17
You do realize there are observers identifying some of you as private server representatives, right?
Your repeated pattern over the years acting unprofessionally and mishandling people hasn't gone unnoticed. Eventually, people see through it.
It’s no surprise you keep getting blacklisted.
You should seriously consider professional training in customer service. I highly recommend it than constantly treating players as the problem while running an unregulated server.
You're in a position of power. That comes with much more responsibility and pressure to prove yourselves even more.
It's a shame really.
You done goofed, folks. Your IPs are being backtraced as we speak and consequences will never be the same.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4900
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-29 16:30:17
Stressing the importance of making sure people know about the morbidly obese predators on server staff who target women, or the GM who constantly lies and gaslights to make sure they're always the victim/everyone else is the problem, though. I dont think private servers are going anywhere, but anyone considering playing on one should research that server's background before installing anything. Realize that theyll have your info, and they can and will find you irl when they want to seek revenge.
Keep in mind they can read everything you type in the game from the logs, in every form of chat. So if you give a friend in the game your telephone number or address, now they have it too (assuming they want to and have a reason to scrape though them to find it).
They have access to literally everything you can type and it's all logged and kept for future reading. ls, party, tells everything. Considering how childish and vindictive many of them are, that's not good.
You have no idea how many times I've given my friend ***for saying something sus in game that can get us both LM17ed.
Doing Oryx:
me: "dont drop bubble on this one"
him: "ok I paused it"
me:
By tannifae 2025-01-29 16:31:12
If you want to visit me and talk it over everything I can give some etiquette lessons and how to be nicer and learn how to conduct yourselves better professionally. Honestly it'd do you greater good.
By Zehira 2025-01-29 16:35:12
If you want to visit me and talk it over everything I can give some etiquette lessons and how to be nicer and learn how to conduct yourselves better professionally. Honestly it'd do you greater good.
Sounds great! You will notice I am a lot different than what you know me on the Internet. I am very nice but you gotta know sign language to understand me. xD
By tannifae 2025-01-29 16:42:24
I've always wanted to learn sign language it's beautiful ^^
By Zehira 2025-01-29 16:47:23
I've always wanted to learn sign language it's beautiful ^^
Indeed, I am bilingual that means I am thinking two languages at the same time. There are very few hearing people out there know some but can't keep it up unless they have to hang out with deaf people often. Fingerspelling is the first thing to practice. (Off topic) ;)
Bahamut.Negan
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2374
By Bahamut.Negan 2025-01-29 17:07:37
I made some sign language for private servers! AND "classic" servers
By Setsuko 2025-01-29 18:00:00
Just realized the irony in someone who is 1. friends with multiple accused/PROVEN people who have harassed players IRL, whether through doxxing or other means 2. Had a ticket against him for harassing me in tells before my ban over something I wasn't even involved with 3. Warned staff this guy might retaliate 4. Was seen in discord spreading misinformation multiple times--and now he wants to come into these threads and invalidate other women having bad experiences on that server. Retail players, take note lmao just stay away from private servers.
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Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 986
By Asura.Iamaman 2025-01-29 18:02:27
Keep in mind they can read everything you type in the game from the logs, in every form of chat. So if you give a friend in the game your telephone number or address, now they have it too (assuming they want to and have a reason to scrape though them to find it).
It's worth remembering also that in order to play on Horizon, you have to run whatever executables they distribute. I doubt they are doing anything directly nefarious - but IMO most gamers are a little too lax about running code from sources that I wouldn't exactly put into the trusted category.
Lakshmi.Glaciont
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 775
By Lakshmi.Glaciont 2025-01-29 18:34:17
Never trust HorizonXI's customer service ever. It's simple. No, they don't get paid to be professional in everything else. I am on several different channels of discord regarding private servers. They are just regular folks who love to troll or funny memes just like we do on FFXIAH. That's unfortunately that you have trapped in without knowing what's really going on. It's nobody fault but yourself.
There has always been drama going on since HorizonXI launched just because how popular that private server is.
Lumirie and Velvet were a couple GMs who I found to break away from that pattern on HXI.. acted professional and kind with players.
By Zehira 2025-01-29 18:55:50
I see. In my lifetime with FFXI, I have never called a GM for help. I just knew what I was doing I guess. Times have changed, though.
Problem is... Some of them act professional and kind with players expect women they find attractive.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3139
By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-01-29 18:57:26
I see. In my lifetime with FFXI, I have never called a GM for help. I just knew what I was doing I guess. Times have changed, though.
Problem is... Some of them act professional and kind with players expect women they find attractive.
It's probably a lot easier to not need to call a GM when you're male. Just guessing.
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Lakshmi.Sahzi
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 248
By Lakshmi.Sahzi 2025-01-29 19:04:42
Private servers always seem about as attractive as communism to me.
Everything about it sounds awful unless you get to be one of the ones in charge.....then it's totally awesome.
VIP
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 948
By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-01-29 19:24:30
I have never called a GM for help. I just knew what I was doing I guess You have never gotten stuck on the wrong side some geometry you shouldn't be and needed to get rescued, last time that happened to me I was under a pool of water in one of the tunnels in SoA had no warp item was not targetable to get warped out, had to call a gm
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1459
By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-01-29 19:47:03
Gonna start my own private server using an in-game item as the name like Catseye did.
Everyone, you're all welcome to download Richybear's Pile of Dung
By Zehira 2025-01-29 19:47:39
I have never called a GM for help. I just knew what I was doing I guess You have never gotten stuck on the wrong side some geometry you shouldn't be and needed to get rescued, last time that happened to me I was under a pool of water in one of the tunnels in SoA had no warp item was not targetable to get warped out, had to call a gm
Oh! I remember I almost called a GM after I got stuck in a corner between some barrels during the FFXIV 2.0 alpha. Thankfully, that jump button got me out!
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1459
By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-01-29 19:48:39
also the official website will be the guildwork I made just to see if they censored anything (possibly while intoxicated years ago) and evidently clownpenis dot guildwork dot com was totally cool. Thanks stan!
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By Kaffy 2025-01-29 20:02:19
King Richy atop his mound of poop lording over all... Where do we sign up?
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By Sylvebits 2025-01-29 20:12:58
Oh snizzle c-c page 5? All I did was blink, what did I miss?
By Draylo 2025-01-29 20:45:40
you're right it makes no sense. which is why i said it was unhinged behavior. notice how twice you havent denied sayin it, rather u only deny that you were serious.... which we all know is bs. youve done so much crying on so many videos i woudlnt be surprised you cant remember what you said( even though we all know youre fully aware that you said it lmfao) and of course you follow it up with gaslighting by claiming im "attacking you" by simply reminding you of your own words/actions.
"there will never be an influx of players(barring retail going free to play in some form) to bring the game back to its former glory" what about this statement is nonsense? how delusional are you to disagree with this?
I would be interested in seeing the screenshots. I wouldn't deny it because I don't remember every single post I've made on every single platform, but if I ever did say that it was probably being as a joke because I more than anyone know that SE wouldn't do anything. I also couldn't care less if they were deleted tomorrow or not, I just rather not see them like a plague across every XI media in existence. I was perfectly fine ignoring them every time a new server bopped into existence before this one. That ninja money really stretched to the point it created a cult. I'm sorry you think someone passionate about a hobby, going to videos clearly labeled "FFXI" even though its that fake server, and commenting somehow bothers you. I offer you the block button, I only have 1 account on youtube and 1 here. You seem to get some kind of weird satisfaction reading them though, so you probably won't.
What is delusional about your previous post is you saying the game is dead and wont get updates, which someone already called you out on. The population of any MMO is always changing and rarely always positive, look at XIV. Outside of expansions that is the usual, which is why I had wanted an expansion for this game for a long time. Nobody here wants it to go back to its "former glory" except these special people on the private servers who apparently can't ever let that single era go (not to mention its not even the only 75 era, there were many as 75 was stretched for a while. They can't even agree when this perfect time period was)
Most of us just want to enjoy the game and see it continue. You don't see me going to their forums or discord hating on them. Youtube is open to all so it is not the same as people like Homstar religiously coming into these threads anytime they are bumped or created.
Lol you can't make this up, these people who apparently quit come up anytime these threads are bumped or made.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. I come to this forum because I like retail and like knowing what's going on there. This is something I've stated many times.
This also isn't my thread, so try harder
...what?
lol! Now he likes retail... sure bud. This guy, who for I think years now, has come into these threads constantly disparaging retail saying its content is stale, bad and horrible (purple room simulator.) Saying its players are delusional, desperate and dumb. Who personally attacks anyone who says something negative about this server. This is someone who "likes" FFXI. Right...
The last part of your post, a sock account or troll came into the thread (who doesn;'t even play anymore, yet mysteriously appears any time these threads are bumped/made) and said it was my thread for crying. I didn't create this, I just leave my opinion like everyone else.
Hello my name is Tannifae! ^^ I used to play HorizonXI Endgame content and quit entirely moving on to Retail. I created some infographics based on my own experiences. I wish I had known all the risks when I first entered the private server scene.
Private Servers Pros & Cons
MY OWN REVIEW:
I initially joined a private server without much knowledge or experience. The "Free-to-Play" aspect drew me in, and I thought, "What could go wrong? It’s just a game!" It was all wonderful at first, but over time, I started noticing recurring issues: shady practices, questionable behavior, and toxic dynamics coming from different levels. I ignored these, thinking they wouldn’t affect me, but eventually, I experienced a rude awakening.
Beyond normal in-game toxicity, I encountered patterns of incredibly abusive nature outside the borders of the game itself. This deeply eroded my trust in the private server community, making me question whether I was safe there at all.
After two years, my preferences and priorities have shifted. For me, safety and security are now the most important aspects of gaming. This led me to transition to FFXI Retail, and I can confidently say it was the best decision I’ve made.
FFXI Retail Pros & Cons
Retail servers can be intimidating at first, but I’ve come to realize just how misinformed I was. FFXI is rich with content, offering incredible flexibility: solo or team-oriented play, casual or grind-heavy gameplay, short or long gaming sessions, it’s adaptable to any lifestyle.
I’ve also discovered I had only experienced ~25% of the game within the last two years, with a massive 75%~ of content still left to explore, which I’m excited to dive into for years to come.
Unlike private servers, Square Enix delivers trustworthy customer support, backed by professionally trained staff who undergo background checks and adhere to strict protocols. This professionalism ensures a safer and more welcoming environment. I have experienced that for the past few weeks and also previously from FFXIV.
Thank you to the retail players who welcomed me with open arms and encouraged me to join the community (like FFXIAH). You’ve made my transition effortless and enjoyable! Thank you guys for being patient with my growth and always treating me with the utmost respect even if I only played the private server previously. I think that says a lot about your character as a retail community.
For anyone on the fence or struggling with similar experiences, my advice is simple: prioritize your safety and enjoyment. Know your people. Know who is out there to hurt you or build you up.
Feel free to reach out if you need support or have questions!
Remember, we’re all here to grow and become better people for ourselves and others. Count your blessings, share kindness, and enjoy the journey.
Happy gaming! xx :)
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