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Ixion F Metal update!
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By Valefor.Starscreamx 2025-01-01 15:46:02
So a week ago I learned if you ws ixion with X# ws's at a low hp his horn will break. I saw a video of someone taking it to 30% and using about 30-40ws's to break it. I was doing that method, and it worked every time.
3 days ago, I SC'd it to 10% on accident and decided to do tachi:hobaku on it and hope to break it. I missed how many i did the first time and didn't notice the horn break but it broke fast. I got the chest and metal.
Second day, I took it to 15% and proceeded to hobaku it down to break horn. I also missed horn break again (wifey and kids yelling at me for stuff lol) and killed it hobakuing to death. Noticed chest was there when it died.
Today, I said ok I'm paying attention. Took it to 15% did 9 hobakus and it broke. So what I think may be the way to break horn is take it to very low HP use a proc low level weapon and do several stun ws's to break horn. I will try again tomorrow after taking to 10% and count how many. As of now i can 100% say I did 9 at 15% and it broke by 9% average 2k a ws.
If anyone else wants to test this and help me confirm I would appreciate the data! Makes F boss way easier for sure!
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-01-02 01:55:43
Gave it a shot, and after 16 Smash Axes at~20-to-1% the horn broke.
By Shichishito 2025-01-02 04:54:21
hobaku crits confirmed!
By Chimerawizard 2025-01-02 10:16:29
Speculation:
Probably an inverse likelihood of breaking horn with current HP on WS.
So maybe Proc Rate=(1-enemyHP%)-.50.
So at 49% you hav a 1% chance to break the horn, and at 1% you have a 49% chance to break the horn.
Enemy must survive the WS to trigger the horn breaking.
edit: obviously much lower rate than that. maybe =(1.enemyHP%)-.75.
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By Valefor.Starscreamx 2025-01-02 14:33:56
Well ***! I took it to 8% today and tried it. Did 20ish ws's and it didnt break..... ill take it to 15-20% tomorrow and try again
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By Valefor.Starscreamx 2025-01-03 13:06:15
15% 11 Hobaku's and it broke around 9% with chest drop. So far 15% seems to be the magic number for me.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-01-03 13:10:48
Since you're kinda deadset on figuring it out, I would try 1D swords, daggers and multihit ws (whatever sam can do... vorpal blade?) or quint spear and penta thrust
See if it's literally ws or hits of ws
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-01-03 13:34:23
dudes trying every single day -
Love the effort
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-01-03 13:40:34
What does the metal even do to Gartell? I would guess it's based on his hands. Makes his absorb less likely to steal buffs? Stun/gravity/silence misses? Doesn't change hands? I'm wondering if groups would even bother to get this metal, unless it's groups whoo already struggle with it. Curious if you have any information on how his behavior has changed since getting metal.
By Nsane 2025-01-03 14:20:11
What does the metal even do to Gartell? I would guess it's based on his hands. Makes his absorb less likely to steal buffs? Stun/gravity/silence misses? Doesn't change hands? I'm wondering if groups would even bother to get this metal, unless it's groups whoo already struggle with it. Curious if you have any information on how his behavior has changed since getting metal.
Thunder Hands, no more enStun
Wind Hands, no more enGravity.
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By K123 2025-01-04 06:57:22
The en-stun isn't as bad as the aoe stun is it(
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-01-04 08:56:08
Do you need to WS from the front? Does energy drain work?
By K123 2025-01-04 09:22:29
Can you just use SAM with the UNM GKT for it from 30%?
By Nsane 2025-01-04 11:17:10
Can you just use SAM with the UNM GKT for it from 30%?
Just use Twinned Blade, everyone should have one from the mission line, the DMG will be to high from the UNM GK, or even the Soboro. Ixion is squishy.
By Nsane 2025-01-04 11:28:33
The en-stun isn't as bad as the aoe stun is it(
It's horrible... interrupts the skillchain a lot.
Gartell only has one TP move with Stun, the rest is from his auto, Can typically take Gartell out on SAM in less than 75 seconds with the metal, without its a crap shoot. You can become stunned locked, and if your lucky and he starts in wind mode he'll eventually go into thunder mode and start the stun locking.
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By Valefor.Starscreamx 2025-01-04 23:11:40
Can you just use SAM with the UNM GKT for it from 30%?
Just use Twinned Blade, everyone should have one from the mission line, the DMG will be to high from the UNM GK, or even the Soboro. Ixion is squishy.
I use Soboro. I tried to use a random dagger weaponskill today and did like 30 from 20%-10% and didnt proc. Used soboro to hobaku as usual and it broke horn quickly.
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By Valefor.Starscreamx 2025-01-04 23:13:11
Nsane from valefor?
By Nsane 2025-01-04 23:27:48
Valefor.Starscreamx said: »Nsane from valefor?
Negative
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-01-05 05:28:50
I wonder if it is related to the effect on the NM, so only stun and knock back might break the horn. Someone bring BLU to Sortie to find out!
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By K123 2025-01-05 07:21:45
Can you just use SAM with the UNM GKT for it from 30%?
Just use Twinned Blade, everyone should have one from the mission line, the DMG will be to high from the UNM GK, or even the Soboro. Ixion is squishy. I don't know, from what he has been saying it sounds like it needs to do some dmg but not too much. This was one of the early predictions (x number of ws under y damage) that was demoed sometimes, but not consistent as nothing seems to be.
Maybe SAM isn't that good for it, maybe use the RDM with a weak club WS?
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By Valefor.Starscreamx 2025-01-05 11:18:59
I use soboro and break it in like 30 seconds @ 15% with 9-15 ws's every time now.
By Kaffy 2025-01-05 11:41:44
I wonder if it is related to the effect on the NM, so only stun and knock back might break the horn. Someone bring BLU to Sortie to find out!
Wondering this as well, since both Hobaku and Smash Axe are reported to work. Does normal stun spell land or get resisted? Anyone try Flat Blade or Leg Sweep?
By Nsane 2025-01-05 12:04:49
Can you just use SAM with the UNM GKT for it from 30%?
Just use Twinned Blade, everyone should have one from the mission line, the DMG will be to high from the UNM GK, or even the Soboro. Ixion is squishy. I don't know, from what he has been saying it sounds like it needs to do some dmg but not too much. This was one of the early predictions (x number of ws under y damage) that was demoed sometimes, but not consistent as nothing seems to be.
Maybe SAM isn't that good for it, maybe use the RDM with a weak club WS?
Went back and forth with Heghmoh a little bit back in October, been breaking daily ever since... Still cant nail down what the mechanic is, everyday same buffs, same WS, seems the amount of WS's varies. With 4 doing Flat Blade from the front, using Twinned Blade, no WS gear usually breaks the horn with in a minute from starting the low DMG weapon skills.
Once accidently brought it down to 11% and was thinking, never gonna get the horn to break now and it broke with in seconds. But tried to reproduced that and never went well. Thankfully Ixion has a move which restore HP allowing for recovery by just white DMGing, but a lot safer/faster to start 20~30%.
I wonder if it is related to the effect on the NM, so only stun and knock back might break the horn. Someone bring BLU to Sortie to find out!
Never seen a single stun land from flat blade or leg sweep... I'm sure a BLU has tried stunning this before. I'm thinking its immune and we're already breaking the horn without these parameters.
My guess is...
By Dodik 2025-01-05 12:39:40
If can break it reliably best way to figure it out is change one thing at a time until it stops breaking. Then back track.
If you can break it from 11, start at 10. Then 9-5 until it stops.
Start again from when it stopped breaking but with lower dmg WS, remove gear. If it breaks with more low dmg ws then it's WS number.
If not it's based on HP percentage somehow, start again from last HP percentage it broke but lower WS number this time. So forth.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-01-05 13:30:00
No ones ever managed to break it above 30% hp iirc it's definitely tied to hp
Not that it's certain it can't be broke at 99% just the chance is very low.
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By Ragnarok.Jukiro 2025-01-08 06:34:13
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Super random but after listening to this person's FFXI BGM remixes (do recommend) I checked out the rest of their page and what do you know, they posted this video a year ago of horn breaking after using Vorpal Blade (@17:35**, Thanks Zeig, also hi!), though they were testing a bunch of other WS too (@15:30 onward)
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-01-08 07:06:55
Oh hi Juki :D
FFXI BGM remixes (do recommend) Thanks for this! FFXI remixes are always welcome
It was at 17:35
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By K123 2025-01-08 10:24:05
You sure that was vorpal blade that broke it? I thought the other taru did vorpal blade then the other did another ws.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-01-08 11:36:59
FFXI BGM remixes (do recommend)
Clicked on their "Jeweled Bougds" rendition and they desecrated a perfect song ><. I will check the others in their collection out (I am unfairly biased towards any rendition of this specific song), but do not ever ruin the greatest song Naoshi Mizuta has ever composed. periodt
So a week ago I learned if you ws ixion with X# ws's at a low hp his horn will break. I saw a video of someone taking it to 30% and using about 30-40ws's to break it. I was doing that method, and it worked every time.
3 days ago, I SC'd it to 10% on accident and decided to do tachi:hobaku on it and hope to break it. I missed how many i did the first time and didn't notice the horn break but it broke fast. I got the chest and metal.
Second day, I took it to 15% and proceeded to hobaku it down to break horn. I also missed horn break again (wifey and kids yelling at me for stuff lol) and killed it hobakuing to death. Noticed chest was there when it died.
Today, I said ok I'm paying attention. Took it to 15% did 9 hobakus and it broke. So what I think may be the way to break horn is take it to very low HP use a proc low level weapon and do several stun ws's to break horn. I will try again tomorrow after taking to 10% and count how many. As of now i can 100% say I did 9 at 15% and it broke by 9% average 2k a ws.
If anyone else wants to test this and help me confirm I would appreciate the data! Makes F boss way easier for sure!
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