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Will you still take a lot of damage if you have both Palisade and Rampart on cooldown? I dont have burtgang yet, your idle set shows brilliance being ranked higher than sakpatas, would I want to use sakpatas if im tanking in ody c over brilliance?
I don’t rely on Rampart or Palisade for staying alive — they’re mostly aggro tools in my setup.
I don’t rely on Rampart or Palisade for staying alive — they’re mostly aggro tools in my setup.
Rampart does give -25% SDT, so it's a nice extra layer, but not something I depend on.
Palisade technically boosts block rate, but outside of very specific cases (like Crawler’s Nest [S] with 100 mobs while recasting Phalanx), I use it strictly for enmity.
If both are down, that’s fine — as long as:
• DT is capped (50%)
• Phalanx is active
• Your shield is doing its job
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I don’t have Burtgang yet. Your idle set shows Brilliance being ranked higher than Sakpata’s — would I want to use Sakpata if I’m tanking in Ody C over Brilliance?
• Are you DT capped with Brilliance?
• Do you switch weapons across sets?
• Does Sakpata's Sword help cap DT on other sets like Cure?
Golden rule: never go under 50% PDT/MDT, no matter the set.
Brilliance is listed for its +14 enmity. It has little defensive value (DT -3%).
If you’re capped and don’t swap, it’s fine.
But if you already use Sakpata in other sets, and want to keep the same weapon, Sakpata's Sword is a great pick (DT -10%).
If it helps cap other sets too, even better — just stick with it full-time.
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I don't have a ton of experience tanking yet but I have most of the gear funded through my bard. I entered into Ody C before on my PLD but I still took a f* ton of damage. It was better when I had Phalanx up, and we had no bard to give me defense or haste so everything felt slow. But I still don’t really know what to do to just be able to stand there for every group of mobs like I’ve seen other paladins do lol
If you noticed it felt better with Phalanx up — that’s not a coincidence.
If you noticed it felt better with Phalanx up — that’s not a coincidence.
It cleans up what DT/block doesn't catch, and often means the difference between taking 30… or taking zero.
So yeah, without it active, you’ll always take more.
Even geared PLDs forget sometimes — but you feel it instantly and hit that macro like it’s an emergency button.
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It's been like 6 months since I tried going in on PLD just to see but that is what i remember happening to me as well. Gettings absolutely destroyed unless i pulled with sentinel which obviously you cant have that on all the time. when you pull, do you try to drag them against the wall so you can block most? or just run to your squad, turn around and block what you can and have the brd sleep?
But for a PLD still building up, or not 100% confident in their defensive flow yet, it can go south fast.
Don’t just copy what you see in “bis” speedrun setups —
adapt to your own group, your own pace, your own stability.
The real goal is a clean run, not necessarily a fast one.
And one day, when you start feeling your DT in your bones and everything clicks,
you’ll look at your group and say:
“I got this.”
And that’s when you go pull the next camp
(just teasing — but hey, there’s some truth to it)
