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Flippantry.com is down (SC Calculator)
By Qiqirnmercenary 2024-05-17 04:50:34
It’s been down since at least yesterday, does anyone know the site’s owner? Their skillchain calculator is amazing, and it would be a shame to let it bite the dust after being recommended by so many people on this game
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By Lockethedark 2024-05-17 08:56:30
I relied on that website a lot. It's a really amazing tool and I hope it comes back.
Asura.Bluntx
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By Asura.Bluntx 2024-05-17 09:08:13
There is an awesome skillchain calculator ive used for a long time @
http://www.ffxicalculator.com
Just added prime support
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By Dodik 2024-05-17 13:05:26
This is better, and has all the recently added WSs.
Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2024-05-17 13:32:43
wonder if AI/chatGPT could assist in making something like flippantry was I'd love my smart phone so much more if I could "Hey Google!" ask it to calculate me some skillchains.
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Bahamut.Negan
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By Bahamut.Negan 2024-05-17 15:54:28
wonder if AI/chatGPT could assist in making something like flippantry was This is good idea :o
But yeah, this is good ***
This is better, and has all the recently added WSs.
Phoenix.Capuchin
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2024-05-17 15:58:06
This is better, and has all the recently added WSs.
Did not know it had added the Primes, thanks for the heads-up! Downloaded new version!
But yeah +1 to the recommendation, FFXI Calculator has been the gold standard for me for years.
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Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2024-05-17 17:07:08
This is better, and has all the recently added WSs.
It's overly complicated...
Flippantry is awesome.
PLEASE COME BACK!!!!!
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2024-05-17 17:25:00
Archive/Waybackmachine doesnt have anything current.
Google nuked cached websites a few months ago. Damn
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By Shiva.Grimbattsumaru 2024-05-17 18:15:41
Nooooooooo Flippantry we need you……
Bismarck.Demetor
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By Bismarck.Demetor 2024-05-18 00:00:33
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
This is better, and has all the recently added WSs.
It's overly complicated...
Flippantry is awesome.
PLEASE COME BACK!!!!!
Yeah, the "this is better" comment seems laughable as if there's a difference between the same basic decision tree-esque information both tools would be showing. Whichever you find more friendly from an UI perspective which will vary by individual.
By Dodik 2024-05-18 00:03:17
Well one relies on a website being up, the other is offline and can be used by itself.
So yes, it is better.
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Bismarck.Demetor
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By Bismarck.Demetor 2024-05-18 00:06:31
I think its interface is sloppy, and their hosting site could also go down before someone got the chance to download it, possibly after SE added more WS in the next 3 years.
So not really.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-05-18 00:35:54
their hosting site could also go down
the *** irony
Bismarck.Demetor
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By Bismarck.Demetor 2024-05-18 00:43:51
their hosting site could also go down
the *** irony
You say this, while ignoring the fact to download the “offline” tool requires the website to be up in the first place? People could have also downloaded Flip’s tool to a local file while it was live. It’s not a unique property of either tool.
Bahamut.Kaius
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By Bahamut.Kaius 2024-05-18 00:55:04
I am already working on a new web-app version like Flippantry's. I am wondering which mode of Flippantry was everyone using the most often? For me personally, it was the first one - just pick a weapon skill to start the chain, and keep building up.
Did you all use the other ones often? Like X weapon Y weapon and make Light? Honestly I barely used anything other than that first main mode, so if anyone can provide the details on what else he had on there, that may be useful.
Also, are there any other features you think would be good?
Thanks!
By Draylo 2024-05-18 00:57:24
Better to add it as a function to the in game addon, tell it you want light with x skill/pet/spell and x skill/pet/spell and it will show you the possible options etc
By Dodik 2024-05-18 01:13:40
ignoring the fact to download the “offline” tool requires the website to be up in the first place
If only there was some kind of internationally connected network of computers that could be used to store multiple copies of files in case one of those computers is unavailable.
Someone should work on that, it sounds like big business.
Bismarck.Demetor
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By Bismarck.Demetor 2024-05-18 01:58:15
ignoring the fact to download the “offline” tool requires the website to be up in the first place
If only there was some kind of internationally connected network of computers that could be used to store multiple copies of files in case one of those computers is unavailable.
Someone should work on that, it sounds like big business.
Despite the lack of a fancy “download” button, as I mentioned before, anyone could have actually saved Flip’s tool to a local file and even shared it if they were so inclined. It would work regardless of the host status. I respect you may not understand this.
Both tools “require a website being up” as much as the other. A new user needs the original host to be available or for someone to share the tool with them. Judging the tools on their actual merits, Flip’s is undoubtably cleaner on the display side, but people who have used FFXI Calc forever will obviously find it familiar, and it’s stupid to call one better than the other on these subjective tastes.
By Dodik 2024-05-18 02:10:50
Great, since anyone could have might have should have definitely has saved it then there is no issue with the website being down.
Glad it all worked out.
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By Meeble 2024-05-18 03:09:42
Also, are there any other features you think would be good?
A negative element filter would be nice. Pick two weapon types, show every possible combination that avoids <element> skillchains.
Being able to select more than two weapon types for this would be even better.
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By Lili 2024-05-18 12:56:46
It'd be almost trivial to make an addon that scans your party and tells you what skillchins are available (filtered by number of steps, desired element, and involved jobs). I might make it when I have some free time, in 2037.
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By Asura.Sensarity 2024-05-18 16:22:40
We'll still be doing Sortie by then I imagine
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Bahamut.Kaius
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By Bahamut.Kaius 2024-05-18 17:05:31
Ok, here is the earliest working beta for all of you Flippantry fanatics (like me):
wwww.ffxisc.com
Bahamut.Negan
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By Bahamut.Negan 2024-05-18 17:10:08
It'd be almost trivial to make an addon that scans your party and tells you what skillchins are available (filtered by number of steps, desired element, and involved jobs). I might make it when I have some free time, in 2037. There is https://github.com/Ivaar/Skillchains
It shows what can be used and how much time is left. Old as piss tho.
Bahamut.Negan
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By Bahamut.Negan 2024-05-18 17:11:00
Looks nice man!
Bahamut ppl getting it done!
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2024-05-18 19:19:03
Ok, here is the earliest working beta for all of you Flippantry fanatics (like me):
wwww.ffxisc.com
I love it, you saw an opportunity and seized it..
Pure, unadulterated, capitalism! I just got a ***.
Bismarck.Drakelth
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By Bismarck.Drakelth 2024-05-18 21:08:02
Am I the only one who's memorized most skillchains from levels 1 to 4 and the key weaponskills skillchain properties for all their jobs?
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It’s been down since at least yesterday, does anyone know the site’s owner? Their skillchain calculator is amazing, and it would be a shame to let it bite the dust after being recommended by so many people on this game
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