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Stellar Blade Leaked Demo (Nier Automata clone?)
By SimonSes 2024-03-30 04:17:11
I really fail to see the charm of Stellar Blade. I mean maybe pad in hands it will be awesome, but so far I've only seen a title which seems to attempts to copy (and fail at that) the exterior aspect of NieR Automata without anything about what's inside, which really is the real value of the title if you ask me.
It all seems so... I dunno, vulgar? Made for wanking fanboys?
The protagonist' character design looks so incredibly dull and stereotyped, like a very bad low cost hentai game.
With the difference that this is not low cost, can clearly see the budget but at the same time it seems so uninspired, without a proper unique identity.
Really, maybe I'm gonna absolutely love this game once I play it but so far I fail to see what's so attractive about it.
This video looks like something that might change your mind
https://youtu.be/CaqL6DZ1pfg?si=SYvzApAvdzL0lBy6
By Afania 2024-03-30 05:06:15
I really fail to see the charm of Stellar Blade.
...but so far I've only seen a title which seems to attempts to copy (and fail at that) the exterior aspect of NieR Automata without anything about what's inside, which really is the real value of the title if you ask me.
The real selling point of this game is Kim Hyung-tae, this dude inspired entire generation of korean illustrators and character designers since 1998. Every once a while when I see a Korean commercial game I see Kim Hyung-tae style in their character designs. That is how influential he is.
The War of Genesis, Magna Carta, Blade & Soul, Nikke, all of his games has large amount of fans only because Kim Hyung-tae did the art.
This game may be inspired by Nier, but he doesn't need to copy Nier to sell his own game. He can literally draw stick man in a game, put his name in credits and people will probably buy it in droves.....
Quote: The protagonist' character design looks so incredibly dull and stereotyped,
It is "stereotyped" because everyone and their mother copied Kim Hyung-tae style since 1998 when he was super popular, then it become the "dull and stereotyped" Korean style seen in every Korean MMO ever....
Leave my artist idol alone please ;(
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2024-03-30 18:39:48
Played the demo, it's Sekiro with titties in a modified Nikke universe. In other words, I will be paying $70 for this.
Music is carrying the ShiftUp trend forward; the scores in Destiny Child and Nikke have been amazing as well. They know how to do music over there.
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By Bahamut.Drumskull 2024-03-31 06:39:23
I really fail to see the charm of Stellar Blade. I mean maybe pad in hands it will be awesome, but so far I've only seen a title which seems to attempts to copy (and fail at that) the exterior aspect of NieR Automata without anything about what's inside, which really is the real value of the title if you ask me.
It all seems so... I dunno, vulgar? Made for wanking fanboys?
The protagonist' character design looks so incredibly dull and stereotyped, like a very bad low cost hentai game.
With the difference that this is not low cost, can clearly see the budget but at the same time it seems so uninspired, without a proper unique identity.
Really, maybe I'm gonna absolutely love this game once I play it but so far I fail to see what's so attractive about it.
This video looks like something that might change your mind
https://youtu.be/CaqL6DZ1pfg?si=SYvzApAvdzL0lBy6
its for people to masterbait as they play the game its a ***game for degens
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-03-31 07:10:51
Someone has to clutch all those pearls.
They aren't gonna do it themselves.
By Afania 2024-03-31 08:51:25
nobody uses logic to be mad about Stellar Blade and ignore sports bodysuits and instead it's either herd mentality of virtue signalling to their group)
I am personally not "mad" at Stellar Blade but I do see sex marketing in nearly all of their screenshots. On the other hand I don't see sex marketing in sports screenshots that you posted.
This has nothing to do with body suit/no body suit. This has something to do with dozens if not hundreds of Stellar Blade visual design choices combined. The use of camera angles, the visual design for shapes and colors, the priority when it comes to the main focus in an image etc. Even the Kim himself admitted they used such strategy in their interviews kinda. So what's the point to deny sex marketing if the dev doesn't care to hide it?
Trying to post a picture of sports photos with body suit then argue "look, they are all the same because they both have body suits!!!!" is completely ignoring the intention of people who worked on it. There are a lot more than just body suits when it comes to utilizing sex to increase sales.
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By Afania 2024-03-31 12:18:35
Ultimately Sports girls in skimpy outfits and this are the same thing, it doesn't matter how you want to market them they are the same thing at the end of the day
No they are not. It depends on the visual design choices made by each shots. In visual design different camera angles or poses produces different emotional results.
Basically if you don't intend to focus on the sex aspect in a photo, then it will be much harder to feel like it is trying to sell sex emotionally.
Saying all of the female swimsuit photos are selling sex regardless of the actual output and intention of an image is simplifying an issue.
It is better to try not to draw an equation between 2 things. It is a really bad habit for absorbing and analyzing information. And it makes your opinions on many issues sounds less convincing than it can be.
We are the most laughably stupid society that exists
Personal opinion. I don't feel the same about the society at all. Though I am more neutral/indifferent than supporting it.
It's good to use sex to sell things, cause it works.
My personal criticism about sex marketing in video game industry is how logics in design choices are often sacrificed for it. Such as the infamous "boob armor" or "bikini armor". Logically such shoices doesn't make sense at all. And it breaks immersion for me whenever I see an illogical design choice in a world that has business intentions behind it.
Sex marketing also doesn't necessarily makes a game fun nor a story deep. It may increase traffics and clicks on social media, that's it. But it is nothing but short term dopamine rush that doesn't stay for too long. A game still needs good gameplay or good story to become a hit.
Case to the point, Disco Elysium (metacritic score 91) is my favorite game of all time. It features an obese middle aged degenerate man with zero female companion. But the lack of sexy looking player character doesn't change the fact that the game itself is a profound and memorable experience. It is kind of experience that stays, not quick dopamine rush that gets my attention for 10 min.
Personally, I don't see any evidence to support woke movement killing video game industry. You can hate woke movement if you want, but I think you exaggerated the effect of it on most games.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-03-31 13:31:30
Personally, I don't see any evidence to support woke movement killing video game industry. Tell that to all the devs that were let go because studio and publishers are prioritizing ESG scores instead of quality engaging games are getting shut down because people aren't buying the slop anymore.
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-impact-of-16000-games-industry-layoffs-in-one-chart/
https://gamerant.com/spider-man-2-game-cut-content-symbiotes-bosses-leaks/
I'm not gonna presume what was prioritized over this cut content, but if you told me my options were "more Venom gameplay and storyline" vs "3 or 4 stealth MJ missions", give me the Venom gameplay and storyline all day every day.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2024-03-31 14:04:55
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By Bahamut.Negan 2024-03-31 14:12:26
obese middle aged degenerate man with zero female companion.
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By Asura.Hya 2024-03-31 14:30:29
I liked the music and the flexibility of combat in the game.
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By Afania 2024-03-31 14:47:19
The link that you posted said nothing about EGS scores.
The entire gaming industry is facing downturn mostly because of insane growth and QE during pandemic in 2021. Many studios overhired with money everywhere.
Then Fed started QT in 2022, as money exited the economy, the downturn is just normal market correction after all the growth. The fact that fast growing AI industry siphoned all the investment money probably doesn't help.
It is normal for an industry to go up and down every few years, this is just how economy works. Market correction always happen after insane growth but a correction isn't the same as the entire industry being in trouble.
Like I said, it is your freedom to hate woke movement but saying all games are bad and video game industry is in trouble because of them? That is way too much credit given imo.
By Afania 2024-03-31 15:06:05
No logic required, it's a fantasy video game. In the real world women would not be fighting with h2h weapons anyway and so would not require armor, cause men are significantly stronger. Men evolved to fight, which is why we have stronger upper body strength. Fighting a woman is like fighting a child, which is why any time you see a man attacking a woman men want to run to help her, cause they know full well she is at a massive disadvantage.
Lol what? A good world building is still based on logic. It doesn't need to be the same as real life. real life and logic in world building are 2 different things.
You can establish different-from-rl logic in a fantasy story as a writer. Such as "women need to fight because the village doesn't have enough people" or even "women have stronger magic power than men in this world". Then it'll make sense logically. Because it is the rule of the world.
But I have never, ever seen any writer ever attempt to establish functional logic for bikini armors in their games. If they just tell me bikini armors in that world have magic gems on it that add defense, it would have work better than randomly throw a bikini armor in the world out of nowhere.
Maybe you don't care about the world building quality in a story but I do.
A game can be good without any sexually appealing characters in it.
A game can be good with sexually appealing characters in it.
Having them can improve the thing because that's how our brains work, they are effectively cheat codes cause of how our brains are wired.
If Disco Elysium features a pretty lady as the main character then it wouldn't work at all, lol. The protagonist being a sorry loser is the key for the plot to work.
There have been proven cases where a bra billboard have caused more road accidents at intersections,
This has nothing to do with games ....
I didn't say sex doesn't generate dopamine rush (they should), I said dopamine rush doesn't create long lasting memorable experience that we can remember years after.
Do they have positive effect on marketing? Yes. Do they create a profound gaming experience? Not really.
If the effect of dopamine rush doesn't last long how does woke movement kill the gaming industry? Even if all the pretty ladies in games get deleted today, the gaming masterpieces featuring ugly characters like planescape torment still remains as masterpieces. Nevermind the fact that woke movement doesn't even kill pretty ladies in games, as those games are still being made.
You are just being overly negative about the future of the video game industry imo.
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By Afania 2024-03-31 16:18:46
Think back to some games, Mass effect, Dragon Age, ff games. The sexy women in those games are still remembered today, it's an important part of making a game really successful and remembered.
You are still missing my point. There may be 1000000 reasons behind a good game experience or a game being successful. Sexy ladies may or may not be 1 out of 1000000. but you keep focusing on that as it is the only reason behind a fun or successful game. This is biased.
Most DA and ME characters aren't anywhere close to sexy (Except Miranda in ME I guess) but I play them for the freedom of choice and world building anyways. I don't know how sexy ladies got the credits in those games lol.
there is no reason to make them look ugo on purpose other than the stupid psychology theory that women are intimated by pretty women in the media.
This is false, lol. There are 10000 scenarios that inserting a female character that isn't sexy in a story is the right move. Maybe you need to create unique personality or traits for a character in a story, or you need to create a strong contrast for a female character that is really sexy etc.
Ugly looking character in a story is a design choice and it is silly to say under no scenario that ugly character shouldn't exist.
Your comments for a field that you don't know is just ridiculous.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-03-31 16:45:55
There may be 1000000 reasons behind a good game experience or a game being successful. And all it takes is one negative reason to turn a potentially a good game into an unsuccessful game.
By all accounts, DD2 is a great game, but its had its controversies that may have caused it to take a hit. ie: DD2 director making their quotes about fast travel gave people the impression fast travel wouldn't exist. Then the game gets released, the huge DLC list gets unveiled, with fast travel among the list of purchasable things. Yes, turns out that you do eventually unlock fast travel natively within the game, but the director making those fast travel quotes then seeing fast travel as a DLC component before anyone got far enough to unlock it looks a certain way and can be a huge turn off for people, especially in todays economy (coupled on top of DD2's heightened price compared to other games).
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By Afania 2024-04-01 01:11:46
It's annoying to get these complaints against this game,
And I am tired of repeating the same point. It is your personal feel to dislike woke movement. But you keep saying video game industry is ruined because of those complaints. With no evidence.
Plenty of games with pretty ladies are still being made. If people choose not to make games with pretty ladies it is often their design choice. Not every story world needs pretty ladies.
Do some people changed their design choice because of woke? Maybe. But they aren't going to ruin the entire industry because what matters in a game is gameplay and writing itself. And that does not mean everyone who made the ugly design choices are affected by woke. Sometimes it is just artistic choice.
But you demand every game in the universe must feature pretty ladies or else they are bad game or something. This is ridiculous lol. You are taking away artist's freedom to make ugly looking characters in their world, how is this different from woke?
Imagine anti-woke people like you would force Miyazaki make good looking characters in his next Dark Souls game because dark souls must be affected by woke with ugly player characters right? That will ruin Dark Souls.
To me, him making them looking this fkin ugo implies he was forcecd to make other characters ugo by some woke BS forced up on him from higher up, and so he did this as a show of annoyance.
That is some imagination, lol.
I am going to use my imagination here too. I imagine he made ugly looking characters to troll vocal anti-woke people like you. Actually, I think anti-anti-woke would be something I would do for fun if I am a Capcom producer lol.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-04-01 01:36:21
But you keep saying video game industry is ruined because of those complaints. With no evidence. Isnt there another active thread where a Microsoft exec blames capitalism for poor game sales?
By Afania 2024-04-01 01:38:36
Obviously you can have ugly characters in the game but the point is if it's a character that does not need to be that way why would you make them so.
Actually, I found a perfect game for you.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/335670/LISA_The_Painful/
-The story happens in a world without women.
-The main character is a middle aged, drug addict bald guy.
-Every other characters are ugly.
I bet this game is the highest achievement of the woke movement in the video game industry. Tens and thousands of people who bought it and wrote 12k review are woke armies.
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By Afania 2024-04-01 01:40:35
But you keep saying video game industry is ruined because of those complaints. With no evidence. Isnt there another active thread where a Microsoft exec blames capitalism for poor game sales?
IDK, I think Radial should consider opening a "Radial's complaint, round #97" thread so we can debate on capitalism and woke in video game industry for another 400 pages freely.
Edit: that exec probably didn't even say anything about capitalism in the interview, it was PC gamer journalist added that word to generate traffics, then RA added "bad game" to their own title.
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By Afania 2024-04-01 08:52:56
It is your personal feel to dislike woke movement.
Nobody would care if woke or whatever you want to call it was making better games, it's making worse games. Which is why it has such a negative connotation, if it made good games nobody would mind.
Evidence? From what I've seen plenty of games still scored 90+ on metacritic in the recent years. FF7 Rebirth, Legend of Zelda, Elden ring etc. Yakuza 8 and Unicorn overlord scored pretty close to 90 too. There are no evidence that games become worse recently.
If one day I wake up and every single game scored less than 50 on Metacritic for 3 years straight, then I'll believe your narrative that game quality is decreasing, and video game industry is crashing and dying.
Until then I'm just going to play new games that I enjoy. You can keep hating on new games and spam video games hate posts if you wish. Your loss.
By Pantafernando 2024-04-01 10:53:34
I heard a funny story saying SE paid a tribute to those groups that patrol diversity in games so that FF7 could still remain some 90s situations in the new version.
The tribute paid was Forspoken.
They made a new world game so that they could make FF7 like the old times.
They saved Tifa’s ***!
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