SE DMCA Against Private Server Streams?!?!?

If the zoomers Aren't playing current xi, what about 75 era. Two decade old game format! Does this look authentic in your opinion lol


https://youtube.com/shorts/WncbGFzQQqs?si=aYzyb_4ZqhaQDM2d
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RUfsARY3Vs

HI MOM

From *** out of nowhere.... jesterbuns from the top rope...

The carnage....

This gotta be a troll why in God's name wouldn't a company or person dmca someone for making money off a pirated copy they don't support? That's like saying Napster and limewire shouldn't be shutdown because stealing music and porn shouldn't be against the law. Not to mention that's its still against twitch policy and se policy to stream or use the likeness of the game they made.

Horizon is fun to play; after speaking with a decent chunk of players, they’re aware that SE wants it to Mijin Gakure at the next given opportunity same as the other servers.

Room temperature IQ moment to think that they wouldn’t at least try to counteract it.

It’ll be sad if it does though, nice having the best of both worlds at the moment, “classic” and retail.

I'd stay away from this FFXIAH and enjoy Horizon if I were you. Those retail players aren't going to play Horizon no matter what. They just won't.

I used to post exclusively on the official forums a lot though.

You can still cap your character level at 75 and do old content on retail servers. You get the best of both worlds, but you have to subscribe for it.

Is it true that horizon players tell people to play retail? Just started hearing this yesterday seems like a yet another fallacy. Because every post i have seen is horizon players saying to play horizon, how *** annoying.

As said before 75 in retail isnt classic either. Formulas have changed, various qol changes both to systems/job and pop requirements/rate.

Honestly classic is dead, for better or worse

Also people need to stop saying horizon or any other private server with the million addons is classic 75. The ***is so far from classic its not even funny. (Not saying you said it classic just a general statement)

Found some streamer's discussion videos post DMCA, she handles it well and she does claim she often suggest retail to new players to "experience the story" stating private servers don't have the story perfectly implemented.

She iterates a lot that she is not surprised if it was real and acknowledges that she was standing past the line. however... she does think it might be fake, and leans heavy on the streaming guidelines for ffxi being overly restrictive.

also further stated the 8 people, even listed of the streams and 2 were apparently taken down while streaming. Also feel fine saying this but she also back up Asura.Dasoccer claim that they got clapped incase anyone was skeptical.

To be fair, this is actually true and it is extremely common, even on the private server subreddit you can find plenty of posts where people come to the subreddit and ask about the best way to play the story, and everyone pretty much universally tells them to play retail.

This whole "retail bad, come play our private server instead" phenomenon is extremely recent. Nobody really ever "pushed" very hard to go out and actively recruit players before that. If folks were interested in private servers they could find them, but the onus to look for them was on the player themselves.

No it's not recent, not sure where you get that from

And yet, one major reason why I don't like HorizonXI on a subjective level is because to me it feels like neither.

Compared to modern retail, it only has up to CoP content. And while I'm aware part of their concept is to roll through the expansions one at a time, they've shown naught but ineptitude at even the simplest programming tasks. Sure, they'll probably eventually get ToAU and maybe even WotG up and running, but only as far as other private servers (ie: no Besieged, hollow shells of endgame content, etc.) because they're all based on the same reverse-engineered database. Modern XI is also about the most balanced the game has ever been.

Compared to the "good ole days", I could again just point to other private servers, which have done the exact same thing but without a bunch of weird changes. The last I checked (and I could be wrong at this time), HorizonXI still doesn't have a functioning friend list, still doesn't have PvP, and still hasn't figured out the bug causing the "Others' Synthesis Results" filter to not work. Aerec And Friends have correctly identified a few issues that I remember having with that era of the game, but then went completely off the rails on how to solve those issues. The fact that they appear to be balancing jobs akin to themepark MMO classifications goes to show how little they even understand FFXI nor what makes it great.

You can have fun. That's fine, that's subjective. But I really can't see it being objectively the "best of both worlds", when it seems to offer less than both modern retail and other "Era" servers.

An official FFXI account from SE literally went on Ninja's twitch when he was playing XI to say retail is still available and he decided to mock that in favor of playing on private. This ***aint recent. I do admit it's associated with Horizon the most by far.

imagine how funny this likely looks to anyone on the outside.

besides ninja, who as far as i know has not streamed horizon at all recently, these streamers are getting like 1-10 viewers and you guys are giga riled up.

i don't even know what to say, that's something lmao.

remember how you always say "SE doesnt give a crap and won't do anything about anything" well they did do a thing and it can be argued there was a crap given.

so yeah we are "giga riled up" because on this day we can say:
GETHELPNERD, YOU WERE SO WROOOOOONG!!!1!11!

Yea... I remember that... lol... GetHelpNerd singing a different tune like we forgot about that...

lucky asf that breathing autonomous

Blow 'em all up Richy

You do realize that private servers have been around for well over a decade, and SE never went after them.

Eden, Nasomi, Catseye, etc, they were all rather quiet. They didnt do much to attract attention to their servers, and it stayed under the radar. Horizon decided to heavily mass market their server, buying ads and even going so far as spamming official SE and FFXI channels to recruit more players to their server, and it finally drew the attention from SE.

You cant say SE is doing this because they dont want people to relive their nostalgia or whatever *** cope excuse. They didnt give a *** for over a decade. They didnt care when they releasing SoA, they didnt care during RoV, they didnt care during TVR. But when Horizon and its zergs decided to act like they were bigger and better than retail, "retail is dead" and Horizon is the real deal, well SE decided it was time to give a ***.

No one to blame but the Horizon staff and the players who decided to show up on SE's radar.

HorizonXI's entire claim to fame is its popularity. They had smart pre-launch hype, lucked-out with one server seeing a mass exodus right before it fired up, and really spread the word with a variety of marketing tools. The only things that function on their server are things that every server already has, and their only changes are for the worse in terms of overall game balance.

Its community only cares about the numbers, though. Regardless of how accurate those numbers actually are, its popularity stems from its popularity. The marketing worked, and they seemed like geniuses for how popular their server was getting. But here's the thing: the only reason other servers weren't doing that already is because they didn't want to catch the attention of Square-Enix.

While some servers drew people in with being as accurate as possible to an old patch, and others drew people in with their own homebrew content, HorizonXI decided to try and step on the toes of the official release.

They found success in the most lazy way possible, and are now paying the price.

If the only repurcusion is destroying the evidence but ignoring the server then there's no punishment at all.

Private servers can continue to do whatever they want they just can't post videos. Oh noes.

Well, I also got a strike on one of my videos this morning.

It was a video where I literally just read retail patch notes and ran around Bastok. What the hell?

Quite frankly, I'm fine with that. If the only outcome of all this is that the HXI community lowers their profile, I'll be happy. All I want is the capacity to ignore the server and its community.

People really need to sit down and think about this. Most major companies do not care about smaller teams maintaining a historical version of their product as a form of "retro experience". Archival and historical experiences is one of the fair use exceptions. The retro gaming community leverages that exception for pretty much it's entire existence.

And since FFXI is now a 20 year game, I think PS's and other attempts at historical accuracy fit into Retro gaming.