Please Open If Horizon Had A $1 Monthly Fee Again

Theyre both Final Fantasy XI

Going from Retail to Horizon apparently means you arent leaving your friends behind.

If someone has a group of friends on their retail server, why would they want to server hop?

It's not different

You can have friends but still be lacking in people to do meaningful content with. As you yourself have pointed out, the shift towards 6-man content leaves a lot of people being left out. If you have a friend group of 9, but only 6 can participate, 3 people get left out.

Okay but to be fair we all know that nobody posting here has that many friends.

Okay but to be fair we all know that nobody posting here has that many friends.

Ackshually, I have to take my shoes off to count how many friends I have.

I am surprised you can type so well without any fingers.

It does, but that doesn't make the "change servers" argument any better.

Okay but to be fair we all know that nobody posting here has that many friends.

So by your own admission, hopping from retail to Horizon is the same as server hopping between retail servers in regards to "leave your friends behind", but you still decided to use that reason for why retail server hopping is different from hopping from retail to Horizon.

If you have friends

You can have friends but still be lacking in people to do meaningful content with

If you have friends to do stuff with why would you complain the server is dead and be motivated to server hop to change that.

Some logic that.

Is there no need for an economy on retail? Seems like it would be a huge hassle to play this game with no people and having to farm everything yourself. Is everything now bought from NPCs or did they make big changes to drop rates in the past 10 years? Last time I played retail was like 2013

Horizon and Retail are very different games at this point. They share assets, but they are played very differently.

So? They're words on a screen lmao


You don't have to though. You choose to. You probably ignore dozens of adverts for other games every single day.

Why even bother posting?

I stopped playing retail sometime after Dynamis Divergence for family reasons but reactivated retail a couple of years ago to try Odyssey. It's just grinding the same stuff repeatedly with a constant stream of RMT shouts that drowns out any sense of community. It no longer resembles a modern or classic MMO, which is fine. A game doesn't need to resemble another game to be fun. I didn't find it enjoyable, though. It felt very lonely and more like a single-player game.



Those are the most recent shouts on Asura. All of them are trying to sell or buy content. I liked retail during Dynamis Divergence, but Square Enix has not done well at curating their game.

People like Horizon because it's fun, it feels fresh, and there's a sense of community. Most of the player base doesn't do HNM or participate in the childlike drama it usually comes with. There's Limbus, Sea, Sky, Dynamis, BCNMS, and novel content like HENMs that you can do as a group that doesn't require sitting at your computer all day. The player base is also more diverse than other private servers. There are lots of normies on Horizon.

I understand being skeptical about private servers. I was unsure of the concept of a classic MMO until the success of WoW Classic. Despite being an old game, it felt fresher and more exciting than retail WoW, and it was a huge financial success, too. There are things about the private server that degrade the experience. Most people are not fans of Aerec, and there is seedy stuff going on in the background, although if you avoid focusing on that, you can have fun.

You typically pay a bit more on a smaller server, but it's nothing that makes the game unplayable or difficult.

I love how exping and doing 20 year old content feels fresh

shady behavior.

I looked through this post and didn't find a single reason as to why you absolutely have to engage with people talking about Horizon. Weird.

said Draylo, queuing up for his 330th Sortie on the year...


You dropped this bro:

They are actively going to any XI related media

which is what a forum is for discussions.

You dont have to engage either but you constantly do, so why criticize them when you are doing the exact same thing?

who isn't a tiny bit suspicious.

I'm not seeing much of server transfer taxflation here. Maybe they only care about Bahamut and Odin, due to server population? Or I picked the wrong items / servers by coincidence.

What is there to be suspicious about exactly? Everything you keep posting is either nonsense or isn't actually shady.

It's not just "give horizon a try"

I dont throw tantrums,

I never said they will get retail shut down.

Lol horizon specific sub forums, sure

You have multiple people telling you so maybe you need to start reading the posts instead of instantly hitting reply.